Joystiq interview: Tommy Tallarico of Video Games Live

Tommy Tallarico has been working in the video game industry since 1991, and has worked on the audio and music for over 250 games, which sounds exhausting enough. He also ocassionally co-hosts Reviews on the Run (formerly Judgement Day on G4), he's a co-founder of the Game Audio Network Guild, serves on the advisory board for the Game Developers Conference, and somewhere amidst that schedule he found time to co-create (with game composer Jack Wall) the live-action game music experience that is Video Games Live.
Video Games Live has been bringing the rocking tunes of games to audiences around the world for three years now. Whereas Jack Wall provides the baton-waving, classy dress portion of the show, Tallarico is the tennis-shoe wearing, Spider-Man guitar-wielding rock element. Check out our full interview with Tommy after the break, and check the VGL schedule to see if there's a show near you -- because everyone should hear the Mario Bros. theme played live at least once. If you can't make it to one, enter our Joyswag Video Games Live giveaway.
Video Games Live has been bringing the rocking tunes of games to audiences around the world for three years now. Whereas Jack Wall provides the baton-waving, classy dress portion of the show, Tallarico is the tennis-shoe wearing, Spider-Man guitar-wielding rock element. Check out our full interview with Tommy after the break, and check the VGL schedule to see if there's a show near you -- because everyone should hear the Mario Bros. theme played live at least once. If you can't make it to one, enter our Joyswag Video Games Live giveaway.
So, Video Games Live is entering its third year. What are some of the success stories? Have you had any growing pains along the way? Is it fairly profitable by this point?
Actually, we're coming up on our 4th year of touring in 2009. If you include the 3 1/2 years it took to create the show, you could say we're already in our 7th year (we started in 2002). Each year we've continued to grow leaps and bounds thanks to the amazing support of the audience and media helping us to spread the word. Video Games Live is one of those things that you really need to see in order to completely understand what it is, kinda like Cirque de Soleil. In 2005 we did 3 shows, 2006 we did 11, 2007 we did 29 and this year we're doing over 50 shows with close to 70 planned for 2009.
"Playing the first game concerts in countries like Canada, Mexico, Brazil, New Zealand, Taiwan, Portugal, France, Spain, England, Scotland, was a big thrill and major achievement for us" |
I think every new concept or business probably goes through a lot of growing pains in the early stages. Ours came in the first year of touring back in 2005 when Clear Channel (the tour promoters at the time) fell on some financially hard times and ended up splitting up their companies, letting go a bunch of people, and canceling a bunch of summer tours ... including ours. In the long run and looking back on it now, it actually really helped us because we were forced to figure everything out on our own after that and took more control of everything around us instead of relying on others. We've learned so much since then and I think the show continues to get better because of it.
You play a wide variety of music at the concerts. What's the process like in securing the rights for those? Is there anything you've really wanted to play but haven't been able to get the rights to?
Securing rights for the music and video in the beginning was tough because back in 2002 no one had ever done anything like what we were trying to accomplish (synchronized video, touring the world, etc.). With the success of VGL it's getting easier and now game publishers are coming to us to ask to include their new game or music into the show. The only company that doesn't allow us to include video (performing music is okay) is Square Enix, but we'll continue to keep asking for the video rights in hopes that someday they'll grant them. I believe we're starting to have a significant impact around the world on how people (gamers and non-gamers) view game music and our industry as a whole.
What's your favorite piece that you've played so far?
Overall, I think one of my favorite segments in the show is probably the Warcraft segment composed by Jason Hayes and arranged by me & my VGL partner Jack Wall. The way the music, colors, video, lights and special effects go together is really beautiful. I'm also fond of the Kingdom Hearts segment because I'm a big Disney fanboy and worked so long and hard on the video for that one. I also like performing my rock version of Castlevania. It's really amazing and fun to be able to play guitar on stage with a symphony.
What's the guitar you tend to use that doesn't have a head on it?

I've been using two guitars in the show this year. The first one which you refer to is called a Steinberger. It doesn't have a head on the top and you tune it down below the pickups. I painted a PONG screen on the back of it.

The other guitar is a rare custom limited edition Spider-Man Gibson Les Paul that they made awhile ago. It's officially called the Webslinger One and they only made 75 of them. Each guitar is personally signed by Stan Lee and includes inlaid mother-of-pearl web patterns up the neck.
What's been one of the best/favorite venues that you've played in? What about events? VGL has played at Comic-Con, E for All, BlizzCon, etc. And will you be back at BlizzCon this year?
I would have to say the Hollywood Bowl is my favorite venue partly because of the amazing history it holds. Being able to perform on the same stage as people like the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, John Williams, The Police, etc. is a huge dream come true.
The BlizzCon & Blizzard Worldwide Invitation events are always great fun because the audience is so big and is so into the Blizzard music. When we put on these special Blizzard only music performances I think it really hits home with a lot of people in the crowd and there's a lot of great energy. So far we've played the last 3 events in Korea, Anaheim and Paris. Although nothing has been announced yet for BlizzCon 2008 in Anaheim, we are hoping to once again return with some new material.
[Editor's note: On the tour schedule, there's a mysterious TBA in Anaheim on October 11th ... right during BlizzCon. Hmm.]
VGL is aimed squarely at gamers, but have you noticed any interest in the non-gaming audience? Do people come not knowing what the music is, and appreciate the conducting/score anyhow?
"The reason we created Video Games Live is because we wanted to prove to the world, not just gamers, how culturally significant and artistic video games and their music have become." |
What really makes Video Games Live and why it continues to grow, is that we're not just catering to hardcore gamers. We're catering to families, catering to grandparents just as much as to an 8-year-old or hardcore gamer. We wanted to create an experience that anyone can enjoy whether they're into video games or not - in fact a lot of the responses we get are from adults who have never played a game that see the show and tell us, 'Wow, we never knew video games were this powerful an art form, we now see why our kids are so into them, thank you." They understand it and we can present it in a form that they can appreciate.
Are you still actively composing for games? And what's the status with Reviews on the Run? You haven't hosted a show in quite awhile. Is it just that the time commitment to VGL has grown so much?
Growing VGL has been my main focus for over 5 years now. Now that it's grown to over 50 shows a year I've had to limit all of my other projects and companies. That being said, I've been working on some smaller DS & Wii titles along the way as well as Freaky Creatures on the PC. I've had to put the 3 TV shows I've been involved with on hold (Electric Playground, Judgment Day/Reviews on the Run and Championship Gaming Series) but I do try to shoot a few episodes here and there and just recently we shot 2 new Judgment Day/Reviews on the Run at Comic-Con in San Diego. I always enjoy doing television but music and live performing is really where my heart is at.
And, we just have to ask, do you know if your cousin Steven Tyler likes his new Guitar Hero: Aerosmith game?
Hahahaha ... yeah, he absolutely loves it! Joe Perry & Tom Hamilton are actually big gamers as well. Steven was telling me how originally they were going to have someone do his motion-capture, he said... "Nobody does Steven Tyler like Steven Tyler! I've been doing my moves my whole life so why would you want to get someone else to do me?" I think the development team was probably afraid to ask, but Steven wouldn't want it any other way. I think him and Joe spent a total of about 3 weeks doing all the mo-cap stuff.
I remember the first time I brought him and Joe a copy of the first Guitar Hero game when it originally came out ... their eyes lit up! Then they were disappointed to find out that Aerosmith wasn't in the game. My buddies at Harmonix & Red Octane tried to get an Aerosmith song in the first game but they couldn't come to terms with the record company (the band didn't even know about it). They knew my connection so I had them send me a bunch of copies and told them I would take care of it directly. Needless to say, by GH: 2 they had an Aerosmith song and the talks for their own game progressed from there.
Thanks for the great questions and helping to spread the word to your readers about Video Games Live. I've been a Joystiq fan, supporter and commenter for a long time. Keep up the great work!











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Courtney @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:17PM
I've had my tickets for the KC show since the day they went on sale, can't wait!
Squall @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:28PM
I'm going to see it in London in a few weeks! Cannot wait!!
Moffka @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:30PM
Saw it like a year ago in D.C. and it was absolutely great.
magicswordking @ Oct 2nd 2008 11:51PM
The Kennedy Center shows were some of the most amazing and surreal things I've ever seen. The music was great, the NSO was unrivaled (as usual), but seeing all these gamers, many in costume, packed in the beautiful ballroom of the Kennedy Center, with its beautiful chandeliers and history...
And talking with CliffyB outside the men's restroom during the intermission just made the whole thing even more ridiculous. It is a great show, though
Moffka @ Oct 3rd 2008 1:16AM
Wow... I had no idea CliffyB was there.
Daniel @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:31PM
I still can't believe they are stopping in Birmingham. Got my tickets and I can't wait
FraGNeM @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:21PM
When I first saw your comment, I got really excited, then came to my senses as I figured you were referring to Birmingham, England...
Then I checked the schedule out of curiosity and sure enough, it was Birmingham, AL! Count me in!
Daniel @ Oct 3rd 2008 9:18AM
Bham, AL Indeed! I had to look a couple of times myself. I hope there's a good turnout.
Tommy Tallarico @ Oct 4th 2008 12:10AM
Cool! See you guys next week! Looking forward to it! I hear the Alabama Symphony is really great. Can't wait to play with them.
See ya soon!
Tommy
brandonius @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:32PM
i went to see the show when they came to louisville, ky. the show is nothing short of amazing (assuming you enjoy listening to video game music) and tommy and jack wall are really cool dudes to talk to. favorite had to be the metal gear solid music!
Johnathon @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:32PM
Atlanta, TBA.
Fix this please.
Clinton RRoD sept.3 @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:46PM
i remember him now wow its been so long
Ben @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:51PM
Just saw this is Indianapolis back in August! It was so great! That Spider-Man guitar is waaaaaaay to cool!
Zamzoph @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:55PM
Tommy Tallarico? From Judgement Day?!
RAAAAAAAAGE!!!
FraGNeM @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:22PM
Not to worry -- he's a much better musician than he is a video game reviewer.
aj @ Oct 3rd 2008 3:54AM
I should hope so, because he sucks on that show.
deft @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:02PM
I was in the first ever VGL concert in Mexico (which was earlier this year). Tommy and Jack put up a great show. I really do hope they come again soon.
Ayumi @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:24PM
With all due respect, PAUL LIPSON is the President of The Game Audio Network Guild (GANG) and has been for over two years, not Tommy Tallarico.
Tommy is a co-founder and the Chairman of the Board of Directors.
Kevin Kelly @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:28PM
Thanks for the correction! Last I heard, he was president, good to know someone has better facts than me.
SeannyD @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:25PM
Went to the Detroit show back in July of 2007 and LOVED it. If anyone is curious as to what I thought of it you can read up on it here. http://seannyd.blogspot.com/2007/07/video-games-live-detroit-review.html
If anyone has the opportunity to check it out, I'd definitely do it. It's well worth the money and Tallarico is a cool guy who talked to everyone after the show. I hope it comes back to Michigan.
Tommy Tallarico @ Oct 3rd 2008 11:50PM
Yo SeannyD!,
Thanks for the kind words and awesome review. I enjoyed your concert comparisions as well.
Thanks again! Should be hitting your neck of the woods in 2009! See ya soon!
Tommy
Dante G @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:48PM
I remember him from judgment day. He used to praise the games that had his music. And I also remember that Kate from LOST was the hardware "model" in that show for a while. Good times.
MOT @ Oct 2nd 2008 7:17PM
Seems they only go to major cities. What's the schedule like, where can I see it? Do they come to Chicago?
Kevin Kelly @ Oct 2nd 2008 7:20PM
Er, the schedule is linked right there in the article a couple of times:
http://www.videogameslive.com/index.php?s=dates
They're coming to Chicago on November 15th, better get yer ticket now.
Ihavepants @ Oct 2nd 2008 7:31PM
Anyone else think he looks like Angel from Buffy and... Angel?
Quigley Guy @ Oct 2nd 2008 7:44PM
Looks more like Nathan from Uncharted
Tommy Tallarico @ Oct 4th 2008 12:08AM
Don't forget Ralph Macchio from the Karate Kid.
:)
Tommy
Tylergels @ Oct 2nd 2008 7:37PM
I would like The Megas to be there and play "The Message from Dr. Light".
SuperGayParade @ Oct 2nd 2008 7:43PM
I went to see VG Live in Dallas and Tommy is the biggest tool in the world. First he ridicules nerds the entire show, then he jams on his awesome guitar to One Winged Angel of FF7 fame like a big loser. I'm sorry, but this guy is no gamer.
Kevin Kelly @ Oct 2nd 2008 7:47PM
How does he ridicule nerds? The guy has a light-up PONG shirt and painted a scene from the game on the back of his guitar. The two shows I've seen he's fully admitting that he's a game nerd, just like the rest of us.
G.H.R. @ Oct 3rd 2008 3:20AM
Yeah dude he did the same thing at the one I was at. They do this bit where they do motion tracking human space invaders on the projection screen. So they have this tiiiiny shirt with a green space invaders turret on it. Tommy Salami picked the largest dude in the whole concert hall. Then said he'd the dude would break the stairs and to go up the ramp! dead serious! He then had this guy cram a size medium or small shirt on an xxl dude. Woof!
arkweld @ Oct 3rd 2008 10:02AM
First off if you can't laugh at your own culture then you need to buy a sense of humor.
Second, the last time I saw his house it was Spider-man nirvana because he's a massive fan, so I think he understands what a nerd is.
SuperGayParade @ Oct 3rd 2008 10:37AM
It's not a sense of humor. Nerds and the hardcore have a history of being unaccepted and ridiculed by others. GHR's example is exactly what happened in my show. An overweight man volunteered, he had a high pitched voice, and Tommy didn't show him any respect. He's a business man and not a gamer.
And Spider-Man fandom as an example? Wow.
Chris @ Oct 2nd 2008 8:07PM
Tommy Tallarico is great. Judgment Day was the best show on G4
Jack_of_Knaves @ Oct 2nd 2008 8:09PM
I'd love to hear an orchestration of the entire Cave Story soundtrack...it may be midi but it kick major ass.
Vin @ Oct 2nd 2008 11:35PM
I would LOVE to see them play a montage from Shadow of the Colossus
Tommy Tallarico @ Oct 4th 2008 12:05AM
Working on it! As well as MegaMan and some others.
Tommy
Arrowned @ Oct 2nd 2008 9:17PM
I also went to the D.C. show about a year ago (with a bunch of peeps from OverClocked ReMix), and it was absolutely amazing. I'll definitely hit it up again next year, whenever they get around to replacing that TBA with an actual date.
Dash @ Oct 2nd 2008 11:37PM
Rio de Janeiro show this week. Yeah, I'm going.
Tommy Tallarico @ Oct 4th 2008 12:08AM
Just flew into Rio today! See ya on Sunday!!!
Tommy
Neon Jebus @ Oct 2nd 2008 11:43PM
I went to the show in Fort Wayne this year and it was a really good time. People were bad mouthing him in the lobby. I still don't know why. Seemed nice enough.
x silence x @ Oct 3rd 2008 1:08AM
I bought Vancouver tickets the day they went on sale. 5th row center. Gonna be sweet.
Tommy Tallarico @ Oct 3rd 2008 1:31AM
Yo!,
Thanks for all the kind words about Video Games Live and thanks to Kevin for the interview and great questions! Hope to meet you all on the road someday.
Thanks!
Tommy
G.H.R. @ Oct 3rd 2008 3:12AM
I saw this show in New Haven Ct. Great show, but tommy made fun of fat people during the space invaders bit!
I will always remember!
G. H. R. @ Oct 3rd 2008 3:14AM
I'm actually serious. Everyone should go see VGL nonetheless!
Sr. Falcão @ Oct 3rd 2008 8:03AM
VGL concert in Brasília, Brazil, last sunday. Awesome!
mike @ Oct 3rd 2008 1:03PM
I also liked "Judgment Day" on G4. Tommy T appeared to be a legit gamer on the show, albeit one with serious ADD. And the other guy (with a kind-of largish head, but a great voice), who was more dedicated to his hobby. His opinions were far more reasoned. But they actually had nice interplay. Not a bad little show at all.
jedimasta @ Oct 3rd 2008 10:43PM
Video Games Live Show: awesomeness
Tommy Tallarico: Self absorbed, attention whore with a MAJOR Napoleanic complex
waynski1457 @ Oct 4th 2008 4:57AM
I saw the show last March here in Milwaukee, and goddamn was it fucking amazing. I also got to talk to him for a bit in the autograph line after the show, and he was really awesome about it all. I wish I would have had the chance to get drinks with him.