Nintendo unveils new WarioWare, Mario & Luigi, more
by Ross Miller 
{ Oct 2nd 2008 at 4:00AM }
DS (Expanded List, Video)
- Mario & Luigi RPG 3
- Made in Wario/Wario Ware
- Pikmin remake
- New Punch-Out!!!
- Sin and Punishment 2
- Klonoa: Door to Phantomile
- Another Code (Trace Memory)
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Ryan P. @ Oct 2nd 2008 4:27AM
THUMBS UP:
Punch Out
New Dynamic
Sin and Punishment 2
Arcrise Fantasia
Mario and Luigi 3
THUMBS DOWN:
Rehashing Cube games (that better not be the new Zelda+Mario )
Cosmic Walker Graphics.
FF:CC: Ehoes of time: Wii graphics look barely upgraded from the DS version BOO.
I am a machineee @ Oct 2nd 2008 4:52AM
Where do you see FF:CC images??
Foetoid @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:06AM
There is something wrong with you Ryan omg.
Thumbs Up:
Pikmin 1 in 16:9 480p with Wii controls
Pikmin 2 in 16:9 480p with Wii controls and online multiplayer
F-Zero GX in 16:9 480p with Wii controls and online multiplayer
Wind Waker in 16:9 480p with Twilight Princess controls ftw!
When it's all said and done, there is no way in the world that Nintendo doesn't have a new team of people working on these upgraded GC ports. They can do what Capcom did for RE4 to make cheap Wii remakes with better graphics and controls to give people who missed out on those titles a new chance to play them. It wouldn't take a big team to do that, since the games themselves wouldn't change, just the controls and appearance. I guarantee they have other, bigger teams working on new awesome Wii titles, but if they can get these GC remakes happening at the same time...AWESOME. I would rebuy most of my GC titles if remade for Wii in an instant. Perhaps more devs can take this road with good titles. I'd love to see Tales of Symphonia in 16:9 480p on a single disk with better frame rate, it's the best RPG of last-gen IMO.
Ryan P. @ Oct 2nd 2008 7:09AM
Like i said they 'better not be' the new Zelda and Mario, I'm not certain but I'm concerned.
I worry because of the rumors of WiiHD coming in 2011. It would make more sense for Nintendo to have HD versions lined up and ready for the new upgrade, that would mean starting on those games now. They wouldn't release a brand new Zelda a year before they need a new one.
In that scenario it would be possible that they would use Game Cube remakes of WW and Mario Sunshine to tide us over. Which would mean we aren't REALLY getting new Zelda and Mario on the current Wii.
Envoy @ Oct 2nd 2008 7:59AM
Is Nintendo coming back to life?!
Koopaknight29 - (Nintendo Loyalist) @ Oct 2nd 2008 8:26AM
It never really died.
That said, *squee*.
T @ Oct 2nd 2008 8:39AM
It's not rehashing, it's a rerelease. Pretty much taking the Player's Choice games and remarketing them for Wii owners who don't realize that their console plays Cube games.
Most of the big name retailers around where I live barely carry Cube games anymore. Those that do only have the licensed stuff and whatever "niche" titles didn't sell well (Odama...)
But looking around, the only place I can go nowadays to find some of the older titles (Mario Kart, Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, even Wind Waker) is at a used game store.
It's no different than the XBL Classics or the PSX games on PSN.
Execpt that the games will be fully featured and you'll actually OWN the content instead of having it DRM'd to your console.
Adam @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:22AM
Foetoid, I'd rather have new installments of those franchises instead of retooled gamecube ports. The Wii's already backwards compatible so we can play these games on the system already sans wii controls. I don't want Nintendo doing this and then saying "there's your Zelda or Mario or Pikmin fix for now. We won't revisit these franchises for another 2 years or so. Enjoy. No thanks, give me new installments built from the ground up for the Wii anyday.
Foetoid @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:33AM
Like i said, new games for the same franchises are still going to be in the works. Porting these games is not a huge task, especially since its made on hardware that is fundamentally the same, being ported by the company that made the games to begin with. They won't need a big team to get the job done, and have enough money to recruit the skills they need. This is just a way of Nintendo giving us more games, enhanced versions of classic GC titles, and games that people who didn't own GCs (which is a lot, considering the Wii has already significantly outsold the GC) access to enhanced versions of excellent games. This isn't going to affect the release of new Wii titles, it's just going to add to them. Excellent work Nintendo!
Adam @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:02AM
I don't think so. I think people have had enough Wiimakes and want new content. These games wouldn't really be that different from their initial releases and certainly not worth what Nintendo would presumably ask for them(I would expect $15 to $20 atleast). The Wii already has to many ports of old games like Samba de Amigo and Dead Rising and Resident Evil 4 among others. No more. New stuff!
Foetoid @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:27AM
OR!, old AND new stuff. It might be old to you, but to most of the Wii owners out there, it's not old, it's brand new. People who own a Wii who never had a GC get to experiance the awesome gems available on the GC without surfing Ebay to find some dodgy 2nd-hand copy as well as a GC controller/memory card. It's highly highly unlikely this will even remotely affect releases of new games and will simply add more quality games to the Wiis available library. I know i certainly would buy a 16:9 480p 'Wiimake' of my GC games i still hold on to in an instant and a lot of GC fans will feel the same way, especially if they give consumers the option of keeping their GC control schemes AND new Wii controls. Even bundling them would be cool, im sure they could fit both original Pikmin games on 1 Wii disk, both in 16:9 480p. It's just like RE4. I finished the game 12 times on GC and as soon as the Wiimake was out, traded in the GC version for that and never looked back, never regretted it. If Nintendo can provide Wiimakes of excellent GC games while ALSO working hard on new Wii titles at the same time, then why not? It gives us cheaper, top-quality games to get us by until the next wave of big games hit. OR, we can sit around twiddling out thumbs while Nintendo stops releasing 1st party content cause thier busy making the next big epic Pikmin 3/Zelda/Mario games. I know i'd rather see at least SOMETHING while we're waiting.
Jack of No Trades 85 @ Oct 2nd 2008 8:15AM
Foetoid
You make it sound like 16:9/480p is that great lol
Bottom line is that I would rather play those old g-cube games with a g-cube controller and I don't want to play 40-50 bucks on a game with only updated Wii controls.
Why do you condone this crap????
TwEE @ Oct 2nd 2008 3:01PM
Why would they say these ports are the new games they were talking about?.. Where do you people come up with this stuff?
Abscissa @ Oct 3rd 2008 2:01AM
"Why would they say these ports are the new games they were talking about?"
Because this is Nintendo we're talking about.
Nigeria @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:25AM
Whoa, that's a lot of games.
But I wish I was more of a Nintendo head so I could get more excited for, say, Pikmin or Punch Out. I haven't played games in those series before.
I got high hopes for Sin and Punishment 2, though.
Abscissa @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:35AM
I'm really annoyed that Mario & Luigi RPG 3 is once again portable-only. At least the Mario & Luigi RPG 1 could be played on the GB Player.
MowDownJoe @ Oct 2nd 2008 9:34AM
What do you have against portable gaming? Or are you just some old fogey who clings to the arcade cabinets?
...Now I've made myself depressed at the death of America's arcades. Excuse me.
Abscissa @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:51PM
I don't have anything against portable gaming per se. It's just that I would far rather play a good game on a nice-sized TV than on a little 3" screen (or two 3" screens).
I think it's great that games like Mario & Luigi, New Mario, Contra 4, and the Metroidvanias are playable on portables *for the people that are interested in playing on-the-go*, but what about the people who would much rather play on a nice-sized screen and just aren't really interested in portable gaming?
John Z @ Oct 2nd 2008 5:48AM
3D Picross? ...bring it on.
Megadanxzero @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:24AM
Hmm... Sin and Punishment sounds pretty good, and I've always quite liked Klonoa. Mario and Luigi could be good, though I much preferred the first game to the second.
Pikmin and Another Code remakes can piss off though...
McWeen @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:38AM
Since I had a GC I don't really care about refreshing the older titles but this seems like a good move to kill off secondary dealers, like Gamestop, from getting all the profits from people who only have a Wii.
time @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:41AM
OH MY GOD, GAMES?
THIS IS NOT THE NINTENDO I KNOW.
Snowblind @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:51AM
Wow, I woke up this morning and a lot of my faith has been restored in Nintendo.
Gnoll @ Oct 2nd 2008 8:54AM
Trace Memory for the Wii? Doesn't really seem like a good idea. An interactive novel type game works much better just on the DS, since it's...well...more book-like. Plus, I don't want to buy any game for the Wii that I'm going to entirely beat the day I buy it (even without SPENDING the whole day playing it). At least with Trace Memory for the DS I could buy it used for less than $10.
Blazur @ Oct 2nd 2008 8:33AM
None of the crap from the video looks entertaining. By now I guess I'm biased towards any game that comes out on the Wii.
Evan @ Oct 2nd 2008 8:56AM
Are you kidding me?
- Trace Memory
- Klonoa
- Crystal Chronicles (will no doubt sell well)
- Sky Crawlers (looks gorgeous!)
- Pikman with new controls
There's even a Haruhi rhythm game, if you're into that!
samfish @ Oct 2nd 2008 10:00AM
The Haruhi game is one of the standout titles in the video for me.
It's also, if you look at screens, some of the best cell shading ever. Easily better than the PS3 Naruto game.
Evan @ Oct 2nd 2008 8:40AM
Wow, this conference had MUCH BETTER announcements than Nintendo's dismal E3 presentation!
acefondu @ Oct 2nd 2008 9:58AM
Best gaming news all year, (it's been a crappy year for news). Great year for actual game releases though, just not 4th quarter for Nintendo...
Mr Khan @ Oct 2nd 2008 11:33AM
Yeah, still kinda leaves Wii owners in the lurch for the rest of the year (unless you love Animal Crossing), but its making 2009 into a few kinds of epic, and 2009 was looking sweet already.
ThomasShaped @ Oct 2nd 2008 10:27AM
Where's StarFox? T_T
Abscissa @ Oct 2nd 2008 6:55PM
They decided, "People didn't seem to like it the numerous times we screwed up the classic StarFox formula, so I guess they don't like StarFox anymore."
In fifteen years, we might get a proper follow-up to StarFox 64 - and even then it'll be portable-only. Just like how it took fifteen years to get a proper follow-up to Mario World - and even then you couldn't play it on a TV.
Mr Khan @ Oct 2nd 2008 11:32AM
I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have shown us *some* of this back at E3.
Sin & Punishment might not have been ready to show, but certainly they could've shown Wario Ware and Mario and Luigi, instead of leaving us with the impression that they had abandoned first-party DS development, and a few of those 3rd-party games could've made a great difference.
vgxtremist @ Oct 2nd 2008 11:43AM
Ah crap, I still haven't played the second Mario & Luigi game...now a third one!
RP @ Oct 2nd 2008 12:57PM
This is awesome. The only problem is I'm already backlogged in games I need to finish. I'm actually excited for Pikmin and Metroid Primes with Wii control.
GearSecond!! (a.k.a AwesomeStuff) @ Oct 2nd 2008 3:43PM
..And so, it starts.