Cammie: Pikmin Wiimake 'not the Pikmin Miyamoto referred to'

Sometimes the truth hurts. It is certainly easier to be pessimistic about it than optimistic given the way things on the Wii have gone.

I don't have very much in the lineup they have shown.

Let me make myself crystal clear: It's not fair to be against Nintendo for being Nintendo. They have always made cartoony and kiddie games with fun and simple mechanics. The problem is (for me) that they still continue to do the same exact thing to this day. When I was much younger I was into that stuff just like I was into GI Joes and Hot Wheels. Now, I want something more mature.

Perfect example of a game that would make me content. Something along the lined of Conkers Bad Fur Day. Doesn't have to look like MGS 4, Halo 3 or GTA 4 but please some mature content, a real story and production values greater than the same song and dance.

The best they have done on the Wii is Wario Shake It, Metroid Prime & Zelda. I just want some games not geared towards a 9 year old.

How about a new Killer Instinct! Problem solved.

Um Immortal, it was Rare who made the Mature games you mentioned. Nintendo themselves have always made the same games. Disaster: Day of Crysis is a bit different, but even then they're outsourcing development on that one. Nintendo games have thier own feel and magic that no other game developer on the planet can replicate, no matter how 'childish' the game is. Zelda and Metroid are about as mature as you're ever going to see consistently from Nintendo and it's not a bad thing. The Paper Mario games, The regular Mario games, the Pikmin games, they're all excellent titles worthy of being owned and played by the most hardcore of gamers despite being a bit childish in appearance.

i wouldnt say theyre on a role but the future looks promising :D

we'll see what happens at TGS

Because they've announced a few games (with very little footage), while Microsoft and Sony are both releasing a lot of very high profile games?

Nintendo hasn't quite won me back just yet, although I am excited about a lot of these games. I had assumed that the reason for porting the original Pikmin games was to set up for a third one though.

True I am more excited for what PS3 and 360 are bringing but it's good to see that Nintendo still got things up their sleeves.

Nintendo is on a roll? I'm still wondering why I haven't sold my Wii yet.

I certainly think so, but others would disagree, depending on varying tastes.

They're certainly on a roll in the sense that they're doing a much better job of promoting their platform. The E3 performance was a bad performance for more reasons than the lack of games. It just seemed like Nintendo was phoning it in. It seemed like they had no long-term plan for their platforms. They addressed no problems, proposed nothing new or radical, etc. It was more a retrospective on their success than anything about their plans for the future.

Instead, in the last few days, they've showcased the future of their platforms quite well, how they're working to re-draw the DS, resolved one of the Wii's most nagging issues, showed a good array of first and 2nd party titles, as well as a broad array of 3rd party titles to cater to many tastes. Then today they showed the support for WiiWare.

@Phobic:

Just sell your Wii and shut up already. I don't buy a pair of Adidas I don't like, then whine because I wished I had bought a pair Nikes instead. You just get rid of the stuff you don't want. Simple.

On a ROLL?

That's like saying Sarah Palin is now on a roll after her interviews with Couric and Gibson because her head didn't explode at the debate last night.

They are not on a roll ... They are just not totally sucking hard like at E3. We still haven't seen many solid release dates and very little footage of their games. The only Wii game that I know releasing this holiday is Wii Music. I can't name another big time game.

It's not a roll it's just not as bad as before.

Look's like Wii fans are eating some humble pie. The same people saying PS3 fans have "just wait until _____ list" are championing less than a full minute of footage as a sign Nintendo is back on top of things. PuuuHlease. All we have heard is Game Cube remakes, ports, remakes and a handful of new IPs.

Who knows WHEN this will come to fruition.

Exactly. +1

Uh... Sin and Punishment 2 and Punch Out ring a bell?

Punch Out looks rubbish. Sin and Punishment looks alright.

Anyone who says Punch Out looks rubbish loses all their gaming credibility.

In Super Mario Galaxy, they have mushrooms and Bowser, just like Super Mario 64! HOLY SHIT REMAKE!

In Metroid Prime 3 you are shooting in an FPS view, combat Space Pirates and use visors. OMFG REMAKE!

In Madden you toss a ball around by pressing buttons, go through carrier mode and can create your own player. GTFO REMAKE!

In Resident Evil 5, it has the same exact controls as RE4, fighting against parasitic humans and have to combat Umbreall. JESUS CHRIST WILL THE REMAKES EVER FUCKING END!?!

*rolls eyes*

I don't know about S&P2 but Punch damn sure is a remake.

So first you say,
"We still haven't seen many solid release dates and very little footage of their games."

And then, based on that, you say,
"I don't know about S&P2 but Punch damn sure is a remake."

Not that I need to go any further to discredit you, but for the record, we already know there's supposed to be a female in the new Punch-Out, too. It was unclear if you could play as her or just fight her, though.

Ehh, i think they're just cranky. Nintendo disproved a lot of the bogus claims they've been making since E3, and now their retort is "well, they're still sucky games!"

We're just seeing another shift in the anti-Wii party line.

Samfish


Did you see the trailer for Punch Out? It's the same exact dodge, dodge, punch punch gameplay it was before. Nothing changed from the first punch out except a graphical update. How is that not a remake?

It's just a better looking, 3-D & waggle using version of the original.

How is that false????? So, because there is a FEMALE it makes it what??? It's a remake or for a lack of a better term a re-imagining similar to what Bionic Commando Rearmed was for the XBLA & PSN. It's not a bad thing but don't try to make it out like (from what we have seen) it's a proper sequel like Super Punch Out was to Mike Tyson's Punch Out.

FACT: Glass Joe, Von Kaiser, and King Hippo are all shown as opponents and the interface appears similar to Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!.

What were you babbling about? Discrediting? Look, I know you are a huge Nintendo fan and that's OK. But, if we be realistic about what we have seen so far it's only obvious to assume that it is a remake of Mike Tyson's punch out.

"Did you see the trailer for Punch Out? It's the same exact dodge, dodge, punch punch gameplay it was before."

By that ridiculous logic, just about every sequel ever is a remake.

Just pick out the parts you want to read.

FACT: Glass Joe, Von Kaiser, and King Hippo are all shown as opponents and the interface appears similar to Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!.

In Super Mario Galaxy, they have mushrooms and Bowser, just like Super Mario 64! HOLY SHIT REMAKE!

In Metroid Prime 3 you are shooting in an FPS view, combat Space Pirates and use visors. OMFG REMAKE!

In Madden you toss a ball around by pressing buttons, go through carrier mode and can create your own player. GTFO REMAKE!

In Resident Evil 5, it has the same exact controls as RE4, fighting against parasitic humans and have to combat Umbreall. JESUS CHRIST WILL THE REMAKES EVER FUCKING END!?!

*rolls eyes*

I'm wondering if that wasn't a fruedian slip, or something that she deliberately said but was later told she shouldn't have.

Or explain why Nintendo loves one untested 3rd party so much as to provide them with SDK access to WiiSpeak and Motion Plus?

So you've never misspoken before? *sigh*

It is similar to what they were doing with the VC and new releases.

If so, its a ways off. Skip (the dev) just finished their last game (Captain Rainbow) about a month and a half ago.