FIFA is the new Madden, in the UK

I put that 3% down to the fact that you can get a 60gb 360 and Fifa for less than a Wii by itself. Plus, Fifa just doesn't play well on Wii.

I heard that FIFA '09 picked up a control scheme similar to PES'08's Wii controls, and I enjoyed PES'08Wii more than on the other platforms I've played it on. So did reviewers, apparently, and so far, FIFA 09 is getting great reviews on the Wii.

The crazy cost of the Wii in Europe may be why.

when will the nintendo fans learn that the wii is being sold to casual non gamers who are buying it for wii sports ONLY. Its not the games that are selling the console.

They just got some wiis at my office (for the employees moral during breaks and lots and lots of people were asked if they had wiis. These are all regular folks too, mena nd women from 20 to 60. turns out a ton of them had wiis. I found more then 20 people with them who you would look at and never even think they would own a console (and probably never have in the past). When asked what games they all bought, the answer was the same all around, NONE. Aaround 90% just purchased the console and only play wii sports. The rest of the people bought guitar hero and/or wii fit. Out of over 200 employees, I only found one guy who actualy owned a wii and buys games for it (mario, resident evil, etc etc).

Nintendo is number one, and it has nothing at all to do with their games. The reason wii version games dont seell is exactly that. I mean a game like Gears of war comes out, its gonna sell 5+ million copies in a couple weeks. A game like mario comes out and it sells 1.5 million in a couple weeks. while still impressive, for a console with an even larger install base, it should be selling 5x as many copies.

/end useless internet rant that means nothing

My sister has one and buys a load of shovelware for it.. ugh.

I tried to reccomend Boom Blocks or whatever to no avail.

That is utterly staggering, i have to wonder if its even recovering its dev costs.

The console with severals times the install base of all the others combined can't even sell a hugely popular non-nintendo to a few percentage of its owners.
Jesus, EA have to be wondering why they bother.

Aye, Gears sells that 5 million in two weeks, then sales taper out to nothing flat, that 1.5 million Mario sells just keeps going, and going, and going

you see sales balance out a bit more later on, just not at the beginning.

Mr Khan, that's because 360 owners are actually gamers, and as such actually know what games are coming out. So when a huge game like Gears comes around, they've all been anticipating it for months and buy it up right away. By month three, everyone that wants it already has it, because they've all known about it for months.

On the Wii, a huge percentage of people have no idea what games are coming out. It sells well over time because many of the people don't find out its been released until much later. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've been in Wal-Mart or Best Buy lately and heard someone say "oh wow, there's a Mario Kart game for the Wii?". How many months ago did that game come out?

Sure, there are Wii owners that are "real" gamers and know when the big titles are coming out, but the sales that keep on going are from the casuals who buy the game 7 months later because they didn't even know the game existed until 7 months later.

I know that, but 007Craft's comment left the implication that Wii games don't sell as well overall, which left my reply that they do, just in a different way.

About 2/3 of Madden 08 Wii's sales came in September-December, while the bulk (~75%) of Madden 08 360 sales came in August. After everyone raised a big stink about Boom Blox pushing 55k in its first week, it has gone on to pass the 500k mark.

Long tail is especially prominent.

It beat PES last year.......and it will do the same thing again this year quite clearly

well dayum.

I'm curious to see PES and FIFA sales for the Asian

Japanese like footy? lol

It was on par with PES in 07 for last gen systems, its no contest that 08 is way better than PES 2008 on current gen systems. Konami hasnt figured out how to make a NEW PES game for the new consoles, theyre still using the same crappy engine theyve been using on the PS2 but with pixel shading. FIFA 08 on the other hand is using a completely new engine built from scratch. PES is stale, and if they dont get their heads out of their ass and make a "next gen" game to compete with FIFA's technology then theres not going to be another one since even the PES fanboys are jumping ship (me included).

The experience I've had with Soccer games is from what I've seen my foreign friends play, mainly from last generation. Guess I'm out of touch.

It's already generated a ton of feedback from Pro Evo fans. They actually favor this years FIFA (first touch and ball control) because this year's Pro Evo 09 demo did not impress.

Indeed, over here in the UK you don't see Madden on shelves, although you can buy it from places like amazon.co.uk and so on.

If Madden was on the PSN for a much-reduced price i'd pick it up, then re-learn how to play the sport. Otherwise i can't be bothered.

Thats the thing about footy, not many rules, just boot the ball into the net.
Apart from the offside rule, but you can turn that off.

Is the NFL even on TV in Europe?

@Vcize

Yeah, but it's not primetime or anything. Mostly digital TV channels at like 2am, although the Superbowl usually makes it onto one of our five main channels (again, after midnight).

I don't really follow sport anyway, but pretty much nobody here follows american football.

I couldnt agree with you more. Idiot chavs trading in their old copy for the new one every single god damn year...just one more reason to have them all executed.

First off, it could be a case similar to Madden, in that the target market is primarily in the PS360 market

Secondly, again, it's a case similar to Madden, an isolated one. Wii version is never top-selling, but it's certainly never mentioned as "Part of the other 4% of sales with PC & DS" that's just... extremely pathetic

Again: Force Unleashed Wii pulled very respectable numbers in its opening week, as did Lego Batman.

All this proves is that Wii isn't the target market for sports sims, which is sad, because PES08 Wii was superior to all the other versions, though i can't speak for FIFA09

damned comment system >:-|

Play the Wii version of PES 08, beats the hell outta the others.

Don't you mean play the Wii version of Fifa 2009?