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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:13AM (Unverified) said

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Sure its running off the COD4 engine, and the various videos make it look identical to COD4, but for whatever reason it doesnt feel like COD4. Thats not down to the WW2 setting either, but something fundamentally has gone wrong. I cant quite put my finger on what either. Though the player aspect doesnt feel as wide, the palette isnt as striking, characters seem to move faster or the hit detection is worse, the maps may well be larger but feel cluttered rather than open and clean. For whatever reason it just doesnt feel right, and I feel sorta bad for Infinity Ward, letting Treyarch making a mess of things again
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:12AM (Unverified) said

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Ah man Joystiq is going to start having ads now when I try to open their page..
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:42AM chrisgrant said

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We're looking into it – hope to have it resolved soon. :-/
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Posted: Oct 16th 2008 10:27PM (Unverified) said

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This game is going to rock
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:12AM Saria the Cat said

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Wow, I'm not even interested in CoD at all but your presentation was so excellent I kept reading. \o/
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:14AM Saria the Cat said

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And what does Alex have against kitties? :(
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:16AM ExMcCloud said

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Girl we need to get u on some COD!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:23AM Saria the Cat said

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@ExMcCloud: Meh. I'm not into military or multiplayer FPS. I don't even play Halo. :O Give me a reason to stick around in an FPS and I will, though (Bioshock, Half-Life, Fallout, etc.)
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Posted: Oct 15th 2008 7:34AM (Unverified) said

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I don't know what he has against cats but I poured a little of my 40 for all the cats he blended. :'(
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:58AM Obienator said

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Welcome back Saria!
Sadly I don't think I will be getting COD5. Too many games again.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 10:11AM Saria the Cat said

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Yay, Obie! :) I missed ye. My intarwebs are finally getting in order here so I shall be (dis)gracing Joystiq with my comments once again.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 10:35AM ExMcCloud said

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I know what u mean but me being the Halo fan I am I probably wont touch COD 5 unless my boss gives me a copy or sumthing.......Sigh....I need another MP shooter...
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 11:40AM (Unverified) said

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Have you tried Team Fortress 2 (PC)?

Great, fun atmosphere, its pretty laid back compared to other Multiplayer-FPS, and the community is (usually) friendly.

(On a slightly related note there are a surprising number of women playing the game too.)
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 12:15PM Saria the Cat said

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@Koopa: Okay, guilty as charged. I really have no excuse for not trying TF since I own Orange Box... I promise I will get around to it someday.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 12:37PM (Unverified) said

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Ever heard of Team Fortress 2?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 12:39PM (Unverified) said

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lol

Should've refreshed...

...also if you really hate run & gun military FPS's then you'll seriously fall in love with TF2 thanks to it's wacky graphics.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:18AM Golds said

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It looks like some people are too hooked on halo.
Why not compare the game to COD2. There is a tatical realism community in COD2 that is dying for an upgraded WWII game. COD4 just didn't have the command structure that COD2 had. Lets hope we can MOD out the tanks, the dogs, the tags ect.. You know that every COD2 map will be ported over, (which they already are for COD4 on the PC). This will be a huge game for PC players, there is a great amount of buzz going around for this game already. I am going to get it, I can't wait to use my favorite M1 Garand again.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:21AM Esat Dedezade said

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Is... is it wrong that Halo3 is the only 360 game I have?

At least it's cheaper.... right?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:21AM The Kong said

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Lol well COD6: Meso-American War in Space is gona rock!!!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:07AM MrHashbrown said

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With Mexican Space Dogs!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:22AM Saria the Cat said

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Whoa! Anything with Mexican in it gets 10x more delicious!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 10:21AM Dirty said

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Mexican Dogs are delicious to the 10th power?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 11:16AM PedoJokerBear said

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*wishes i was mexican*
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 12:13PM (Unverified) said

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It's cool to be Mexican!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 3:56PM QuePasa87 said

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@Saria the Cat
Dirty
Deeznuts420
Kye:

Thanks, you all made my day lol.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 7:21PM The Kong said

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Yes mexicans are very delicious in a non sexual way :)
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:23AM SaNcTuS said

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I played the beta yesterday for a little bit. My first impressions were that it looks and feels like a cheap call of duty 4. The "trade-off" between helicopters and dogs is ridiculous. Another problem with the dogs is that they look just about the same for both teams. So if ur teammate calls out the dogs, u will probably shoot them thinking it's the enemy's dog. BUT! When the enemy takes out their dogs, u dont even shoot...*sigh*. I'm going to play the beta some more today and hope I find something I like.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:28AM ugotamesij said

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How much have these guys played the beta? Yes, the game will have flamethrowers but they're locked until you rank up to a certain level. The beta is capped so you can only get up to rank 11.

And no mentions of the underpowered bolt rifles or the hopelessly screwed up spawning system. So many times have I spawned right in the middle of a bunch of the opposition. Once, I was alive for a fraction of a second, before an attack dog (which must have already been jumping through the air as I was spawning) ripped my face off.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 11:52AM Clinton O said

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that reminds me of some call of duty 4 nightmares. im running with my group of soldiers only to get ripped apart by dogs. i hated those things
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:29AM (Unverified) said

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OH SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

"RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

still not gonna buy this......lol.......

but I'll rent it JUST so I can release dogs on people

and so the Animal Rights Activist can call for a boycott of the game.....
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:45AM (Unverified) said

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+1 for this article.

And i agree, i can't see why i'd want to fall back 50 years in tech, and shooting Germans has gotten old (and i never thought i'd say that!).

Can this game offer anything to compete with that moment when you fired off the Javelin, and watched open mouthed as it shot skyward.
"Where the fucks it going?! .....oh hang on....YES!"
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:49AM (Unverified) said

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Oh and i know you shoot Japanese too, but i don't like to think about that.
Those little guys gave us Final Fantasy, and sushi.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 4:30PM sk8monroe81 said

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they did bomb pearl harbor right?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:46AM (Unverified) said

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I've noticed a lack of sniping in the beta... I'm so happy! The problem with CoD4 is there are too many "l33t" snipers that'll knock your penis off your lower regions before you have the chance to get blown up by someone throwing a perfectly honed grenade from the other side of the map.

Oh and Kiefer is awesome
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:47AM Jack Tretton said

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Disclaimer: This exchange did not really occur.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:22AM Ross said

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Correction: It did.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:23AM Saria the Cat said

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You simply can't make up that awesomeness.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 10:09AM Jack Tretton said

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No, you're right, Ross, you guys did have that conversation -- after much rehearsing and post-production.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 10:13AM Saria the Cat said

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@Jack: Have you never listened to a 360 Fancast or Joystiq Podcast before? Some crazy shit goes down, and it's always candid and spontaneous!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:49AM JACKOFNOTRADES85 said

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I have put in ALOT of hours into CoD4. I know everything about it. I think you being too harsh on World at War. CoD4 wasn't perfect. I remember spawning into claymores, airstrikes and right in front/behind enemies. Not to mention the bullet lag and screwy hit detection.

Treyarch can't win with you guys. There damned if they do damned if they don't. I would bet your assed that if Infinity Ward released these same level and upgrades that Treyarch included in World at War you guys would be praising them.

Please stop with all the blind hate. It remindes me of when I started modeling on 3DMax in college. The only reason why I hated using other software was because I learned on 3DMAX and was confortable. There is a lesson to be learned here. Be thankful that we have another COD to play this winter.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:57AM FakeJamaican said

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agreed.

I'm still picking this up...I love WWII shooters!

and the idea of releasing dogs is incredible...that's a little more nerve racking than helicopters...it'd be frantic.

we will always have COD 4 for online if this doesnt live up to it...but the single player campaign should be decent
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 10:46AM Bananarama said

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I've played the beta a bit (got up to rank 11, and unlocked a few of the weapon add ons) and I'd say the are being pretty fair to the game. It does feel just like cod4 in wwII, and to me some of that just doesn't work very well. The artillery seems pretty useless, I think I've killed myself with it more than the enemy (even when I waited for a recon plane and placed it on a group of 5 enemies) and the dogs are pretty ridiculous.

Also, more than just the mechanics being off, the fact that it is set in WWII ruins some of the COD4 things they try to bring over. Such as the recon planes. How can they see me if I'm in a building? Allowing people to pick whatever weapon they wanted in COD4 worked, but in WaW, it just totally brings me out of the game when I'm killed by a Japanese soldier using an American or German gun.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 8:58AM falcomadol said

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I'd like to see more articles like this one.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:09AM MrHashbrown said

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Reviews like this would be awesome. And maybe press conference liveblogs.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:09AM MrHashbrown said

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Well looks like if I want an intense war experience, I'm gonna wait until the great-looking KZ2 drops.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:15AM (Unverified) said

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As a CoD4 fan what i liked about WaW WAS the differences. The whole "Its just CoD4 with new settings" is what i like about it. Who wants to play the same maps, with the same weapons, 10 million times? I've never understood it.

It's why i did prestigue as soon as i could, just to mix it up. WaW is exactly what i was looking for. A game that feels and controls like the game i love (CoD4), with enough differences to make it feel like a completely different game, which it is.

It's a shame the Beta won't let us try out the co-op campaign alittle. I'm interested in seeing how that plays out.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 11:05AM silverwolf761 said

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Every CoD up to CoD4 was set in WWII, and you think it's "different"?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 11:32AM (Unverified) said

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Nice to see people understand. The "difference" genius, is between WWII and Modern Warfare.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 9:18AM GenGrievous said

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Years of Halo? My God how sad.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2008 12:23PM chrisgrant said

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Yeah, srsly, does ANYONE play that game? Oh a couple million people regularly? Oh ... I see ...
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