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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:32PM (Unverified) said

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Why isn't this filed under "DUR"?
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 4:56PM llllFlREBlRDllll said

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Ludwig does it again!

Ah, you gotta love Joystiq's article tags! ^_^
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Posted: Oct 18th 2008 12:00PM (Unverified) said

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I do love Ludwig's tone; never too over the top, and always great clarity.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:38PM (Unverified) said

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will ludwig now sell one of his copies of sc4 and if so, which one?
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 6:58PM (Unverified) said

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Hmmm, lets check

X360:
1365x960 and full efects

PS3:
1280x720 and 1280x576(when software scalling to 1080i/p - thing blur...)
and some lightning effect cut out (check Eurogamer comparison)

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/yoda-dip-jp/20080802
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1198797&postcount=729
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=246129
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:39PM (Unverified) said

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$5 for 1 character? That's already made and they have to do NO work to get them to us? No thanks.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:15PM In A World said

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C'mon, it's not like they FORCE you to download this to make the game FULLY OPERATIONAL, it's optional. If you want it then LEIA down five bucks, if not then save your money.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:27PM (Unverified) said

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Why do you think Namco is commonly called Scamco?...
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:44PM Rattle said

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And what you fail to mention is that you are paying for content to be UNLOCKED when it is already on the disc you paid for.

What an utterly shamful scam.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 4:09PM Vcize said

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"Why do you think Namco is commonly called Scamco?..."

Because people think that their lame nicknames are more clever and witty than they actually are?
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 8:13PM Haggard said

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Did nobody else see what In a World did there?

You should take another Luke.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 8:38PM jhowlett said

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i saw punches, maybe for others they didn't lando
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:40PM jzbluford said

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I was wondering if this was ever going to happen. I actually started to lose faith in the ABSOLUTE WORST KEPT SECRET IN GAMING HISTORY. This was like trying to hide that Fernando Rocker was a nintendo fanboy!! SHEESH!! I'll be purchasing Vader though. I hate incomplete games and SCIV has so much value in it already for fighting game fans (like myself) that an extra fiver aint quite a deal breaker.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:42PM (Unverified) said

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And now the recent South Park episode starring George Lucas becomes even more relevant. Combined with the obvious over priced greed of the developer for content of questionable value. The dark side of the force indeed...
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:43PM The Last Metroid said

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No thanks.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:44PM whatthegeek said

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$5? Really?? For work that's already done?? Nope. Not for me.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:10PM AoE said

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okay I'll admit i can understand being pissed about the $5 thing, it is out of hand for a single character...

But your justification doesn't make any sense... Don't you pay $60 for work that is already done when you buy a new game? $5 for completed work seems like a steal by comparison ;) Also, I don't know about you, but there is no way in hell I would pay for a game that wasn't finished.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:16PM whatthegeek said

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let me try and clarify my position here - I was brief 'cause I was multitasking when I made the original comment.

A game is a new piece of work unto itself - both vader and yoda appeared in the completed work that was SC4. The work was done as part of the finished product that was SC4. Now they're trying to sort of "double dip" and charge for content that MAAAAAYYYYY already be on the disc. If it's not already on the disc, it definitely could have been, as the work on this "dlc" was done when the game itself was completed. In short, it's content that was deliberately held back to sell at a later date for a profit - not cool. Let me further clarify using terminology not specific to SC

You make a game. Six months later, due to popular demand, you release an expansion that adds a couple of levels and some new items - AWESOME - you just added value to your game. Woooooooooo

You make a game. You then saw off parts of that game going "muahaha, I can charge the internets for this later! They'll pay it because they're ignorant of how things work!!" Not cool. Now you're being a greedy dick.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:50PM MC Double Def DP said

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some tricky 360 hackers have already proved that Darth Vader is definately on the 360 disc.

they are definately charging $5 for the simple process of unlocking the character.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:45PM Negatron said

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The X-NintenStation 720.4 is so close i can smell it.

Cant wait to join that communist regime where we all get the same thing and love it!Mmm Mmm!*Shovels grool into mouth while reading* mGood Sphtuff!

All jokes aside, this is good for those who wanted the the "unavailable" character.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:45PM ummhello said

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fuck that. I'll wait until next year's "platinum edition" when it's included in the game like it should've been from day one.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:47PM darkinchworm said

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Let me guess... in the vein of Beautiful Katamari, the download is 108 kilobytes.

If so, fuck you!

If not, then I offer a much tamer "screw you!"
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:47PM ColeM said

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$5 for one character??? really? I mean, reeeaaally? Namco how many copies do you really plan to sell at 5 bucks?
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:48PM KingBroly said

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Budget priced versions never include DLC (although games that are still full price after a while should get all DLC in order to make their value worth more, then when it becomes budget priced, it drops the DLC).

Duh. We knew it was coming. No one should be shocked.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:51PM Keithustus said

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Ya! The Game of the Year edition of Call of Duty 4 doesn't include any extra maps or anything! Oh, nope, it does.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:49PM (Unverified) said

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What!?
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:54PM (Unverified) said

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Joystiq, I think you missed an opportunity to take a stand and say what most gamers are already thinking, that this DLC is a total RIP OFF:

http://www.ps3informer.com/playstation-3/games/is-soul-calibur-iv-dlc-a-rip-off-009391.php

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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:30PM Ludwig Kietzmann said

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Why would we need to say it if everybody is already thinking it? I'd say our opinion on this goes without saying.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:56PM (Unverified) said

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SoulCalibur 4 DLC pricing is getting completely out of hand! Whats next new achievoz for $10! I already have all the achievements for this game so unless the come out with some new ones that require you to have Vader thanx but no thanx! $5 come on!
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:00PM (Unverified) said

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Actually some Platinum Ed. games do get dlc look and Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:03PM tangocat said

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Is this even DLC? I thought someone discovered Darth Vader on the X360 disc and such.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:09PM (Unverified) said

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Should have done this earlier. Way earlier! lmao!
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Posted: Oct 18th 2008 8:59AM Bowser Rogozhin said

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Shut up.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:09PM CJLopez said

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Man, bandai going the nintendo way, xDDDDDDD

On the other hand, i don't want yoda, still, thanks
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:10PM CJLopez said

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I'd rather haver those schoolgirls outfits that only deluxe version has.

For that, i'd pay right this momment
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:17PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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I don't get how this is the Nintendo way... I don't think any of Nintendo's own games have paid DLC... Third parties do, though. Square-Enix (FF:CC:MLaaK), Capcom (Megaman 9), Activision (Guitar Hero), Sega (Samba de Amigo), MTV Games (Rock Band), and maybe more...
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:18PM CJLopez said

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I meant, adding something to what they released sometime ago which had be to on it since day 1 (MotionPlus, does it rings????)
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 4:32PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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I don't quite see DLC as being the same thing as a hardware accessory.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 4:34PM CJLopez said

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I never made a reference that it only applied to DLC or hardware accesory, motion plus was just to give an example on my point, but never tried to state my comentray to a certain object
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:12PM (Unverified) said

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oh cool I love paying $5 for a single character thats ALREADY ON THE DISC
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:16PM (Unverified) said

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How about $5 for TEAM BATTLE MODE - something i actually care about.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:17PM Pureshooter said

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I've got the 360 version, but I'll only buy it if it includes a "Dark Helmet" outfit for Yoda with special moves to utilize the Schwartz.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:18PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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EA and Namco-Bandai are the worst when it comes to exploiting the DLC system.

I mean, honestly. Would I want to have Vader battle Yoda? Of course. Do I think it's worth $5? No way.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 4:14PM Vcize said

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Exploiting? If DLC didn't exist these characters wouldn't have been available in the other games at all, a la SC2.

It's either having the option to pay $5 for them or having no option to get them at all (like in the past). If you don't want it, you're no worse off than before when DLC didn't exist. If you do want it, now you have an option.

Don't pretend that if DLC didn't exist Vader/Yoda would have been in both version of the game from the get-go, you're not that naive.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 4:31PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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Considering there was a video of Vader and Yoda fighting on the 360 version long before this DLC was announced, that would lead one to believe that both characters were already available on the disc, and that NBGI is merely selling an unlock code.

And unlike SC2's exclusives, there's no licensing issues preventing the characters to appear on both versions (for obvious reasons, Link would only be on the GameCube version... I guess Heihachi and Spawn don't have excuses, but whatever).

Again, the main issue is the cost. I firmly believe that $5 is too much FOR ONE CHARACTER.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:25PM baby sea tuna said

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Laaaaame.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:28PM MadMup said

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Hey, nice timing - I returned this game for store credit weeks ago.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:54PM Rollins said

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Funny, I did the same thing to put the money towards Fable 2.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:51PM (Unverified) said

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Pffffft, fuck Yoda!
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:58PM WiNGSPANTT from TopTierTacticsco said

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The worst part about it is that Yoda sucks.

Hard to play as.
Hard to play against.
Gimmicky.
Weak.
Goddamn green midget muppet.
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