OK, so it's not exactly Alienware and WAR isn't exactly Crysis. But it's definitely a step in the right direction. If you need to see Apple and gaming fused with your own eyes, there are a couple of videos right here.
OK, so it's not exactly Alienware and WAR isn't exactly Crysis. But it's definitely a step in the right direction. If you need to see Apple and gaming fused with your own eyes, there are a couple of videos right here.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2008 11:08AM Liquidmark said
@Saria the Cat
Nope.
He's not from my generation. I'm from Generation X
Generation X
noun
the generation born after that of the baby boomers (roughly from the early 1960s to mid 1970s), often perceived to be disaffected and directionless.
he was born in the 90's, about 15-20 years too late to be in my generation.
Plus, 13375p34k first appeared in the 80's. About 10-15 years too early for him to claim as something his generation thought up.
His generation uses 1337, but didn't invent it.
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Nope.
He's not from my generation. I'm from Generation X
Generation X
noun
the generation born after that of the baby boomers (roughly from the early 1960s to mid 1970s), often perceived to be disaffected and directionless.
he was born in the 90's, about 15-20 years too late to be in my generation.
Plus, 13375p34k first appeared in the 80's. About 10-15 years too early for him to claim as something his generation thought up.
His generation uses 1337, but didn't invent it.
Posted: Oct 18th 2008 3:09PM (Unverified) said
Ahh, but you've been using Macs and PCs for over 20 years. So unless you count your experience as beginning from age 14 or earlier you've got to be at least 35
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Posted: Oct 19th 2008 6:38AM Liquidmark said
I have been using computers since I could read dude. I only say 20 years because it was around 20 years ago when computer use became a daily activity for me.
My first computer was a Silver TRS-80 that came with a thick @$$ programing manual.
I also got a 512k Mac when it came out and I still have my old Apple //e (still works too)
But having those things when they were released, don't make me a 40-year old. Not even close.
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My first computer was a Silver TRS-80 that came with a thick @$$ programing manual.
I also got a 512k Mac when it came out and I still have my old Apple //e (still works too)
But having those things when they were released, don't make me a 40-year old. Not even close.
Posted: Oct 18th 2008 10:11PM Saria the Cat said
You just said you were born from the early 60s to mid 70s. If you were born in 75, then you're only 33 or 34. Anything older than that is pushing 40. So, say you're only 33. Then you must have first been online when you're 13 to have 20 years of experience. And 20 years ago, 1988, the internet was not open to the public. That occurred in 1990. And it was until 1996, according to Wikipedia, that the word "internet" became widely used. So unless you're arguing 1337's use came around before the use of the WORD "internet," that puts me in the generation that invented 1337, and Will is not much younger than I am. And if you want to go with experience or whatever, I have also been using computers for a while. Since pre-school. I've also used Macs since age 5. So I've got over 15 years of exp. under my belt too. Haha! But if you started as early as me, then that just makes you only maybe 5 or so years older. Which is still in my generation.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 1:48AM (Unverified) said
Just for a heads up, the last generation Macbook played World of Warcraft pretty decently (about 25-30 FPS with decent settings), but it did not play Warhammer Online at all.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:12AM (Unverified) said
This story is pointless. You can get virtually any PC-comparable hardware for Apples if you have infinite money. Is Joystiq unaware that the limitation of Apples was/is largely due to software rather than hardware?
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:33AM 4ham said
This isn't playing a game on a Mac. It's playing a game on a Apple laptop running XP. When playing games on a Apple computer doesn't involve dual booting or emulation, then it's news. This is like writing up that new HP laptop can run WoW.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:46AM Anticrawl said
Just poppin in to say how awesome the new update to Google this morning is. Didn't like it at first, until I realized what all was actually changed, truely impressive. Now I can have even more downtime from boredom because I can browse my feeds and info more efficently. Google is evil, but the good kind of evil, the kind you want to have debaucherous sex with.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:47AM Anticrawl said
By this morning I mean Thursday morning. I wish they would have told users they were updating google and users may experience problems. There was quite a scare with gmail, people would open the mail in another tab and be logged out repeatedly. Everyone franticly changed passwords thinking there was some security breach or something.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:18AM Anticrawl said
Indeed, some warning would have been nice. Had my account since ancient days when there was no real account security and I had been putting off a much needed update on that. Paniced a little myself and changed security questions, zip codes, password, etc.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:52AM (Unverified) said
What pol dont get is that the new macbook is using a new gpu which is way more powerful than the previous integrated gpu they used. What this means is that it is now actually possible to play games using the new macbook, which really wasnt the case with the macbook using the intel x3100-somethinf instead of nvidias new geforce 9400m! (sorry for misspelling and lack of capital letters, but im typing on my iPod ;( )
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:24AM (Unverified) said
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about the price of a gaming capable Mac?!
It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAND.
It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAND.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 3:55AM CaramelZappa said
The things you guys don't realize is that while it was possible to run games on a macbook before, the macbook only had INTEL GMA which is possibly the worst card for gaming, yet the most common for notebooks to have. Now that the macbook has a substantial graphics card, the 9400 and 9600, it can actually run more modern games that the GMA couldn't come close to pulling off.
But you could still get a helluv a lot better gaming laptop for the price.
But you could still get a helluv a lot better gaming laptop for the price.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 11:45AM (Unverified) said
Yeah, I hope these NVIDIA chipsets really dominate the low-end notebook market soon. If this could be what people get for like $400-700 laptops, PC gaming will be a in a nice place.
I do feel that anything but the most budget desktop should have a physical graphics card, as the performance you can get, even for less than $100 nowadays, greatly exceeds the benefits of upgrading the other parts of your computer and keeping the integrated graphics.
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I do feel that anything but the most budget desktop should have a physical graphics card, as the performance you can get, even for less than $100 nowadays, greatly exceeds the benefits of upgrading the other parts of your computer and keeping the integrated graphics.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 4:19AM ThornedVenom said
Um, hurray?
It's like being happy for that kid who had just learned a new trick, except that you never really gave a damn about him in the first place.
It's like being happy for that kid who had just learned a new trick, except that you never really gave a damn about him in the first place.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 5:34AM Chrisness said
A 2.4Ghz Macbook costs $1600. It BETTER run Warhammer.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 5:49AM (Unverified) said
Why can't I ever update my avatar? Is there some sort of magical trick I'm missing? I even altered the image to 64 x 64 and tried all sorts of filetypes.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 6:22AM (Unverified) said
Yeah I can't do mine either, and I really hate mine now.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 8:59AM Saria the Cat said
I know, I've been trying to update mine for the past week. :\ Keeps saying "upload successful" but it's never changed. Well, at least I got it to change in the first place like...a year ago.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 6:24AM Don Jose said
My imac (bought new last Nov.; dunno what generation that would be) runs WoW quite well. At 1680x1050, I almost always have a framerate at or above 60 (though I've seen it get as high as 116, usually when flying), and my latency very rarely exceeds 53ms (and that's wireless). On top of that, the colors are beautiful!
...and I can right click like just fine. a quick tweak of your preferences lets you do it with just one finger, if anyone's still debating this...
...and I can right click like just fine. a quick tweak of your preferences lets you do it with just one finger, if anyone's still debating this...
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 11:33AM (Unverified) said
How is this news? Really Joystiq, in general, you are becoming immensely slack at the moment and going for 'the lulz' rather than any kind of actual news.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 8:19AM JACKOFNOTRADES85 said
I never have been a mac guy since I use powerful engineering/ animation software like Catia, Solidworks and 3Dmax. A Mac would cripple my work flow when producing a new drawing. Also, I really don't care about the "in-crowd" so I never was persuaded to buy a mac.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 9:08AM Liquidmark said
that's nice...
The article isn't about trying to get "Jack of No Trades 85" to buy a Mac.
Nobody cares what type of computer you use.
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The article isn't about trying to get "Jack of No Trades 85" to buy a Mac.
Nobody cares what type of computer you use.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 8:56AM (Unverified) said
Mac is a great platform for 3D, and Mac Pro is one of the best solutions for high-end 3D out there...
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 8:41AM erh said
Playing games on a Linux PC requires dual-booting into Windows. But no one gets their hate on for Linux because it doesn't run games.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 10:09AM (Unverified) said
Nah, because a gaming rig with Linux computer costs like $500-$700 like every other normal computer.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 9:38AM RenegadeR said
Once you use Boot Camp on your Mac...you become a PC.
I'm a PC.
I'm a PC.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 10:39AM Tridus said
So what you're saying is that Windows XP on Intel hardware managed to run a PC game?
Wow. Stop the presses!
And to think, you could have gotten a PC laptop that would do the same thing for half the price of the Mac one.
Wow. Stop the presses!
And to think, you could have gotten a PC laptop that would do the same thing for half the price of the Mac one.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 2:03PM jaysins said
Macs are so overpriced though. I rather hack OSX into a more capable machine for way less money. If gaming gateway 7811 is much faster for about $800 less. You can get an identically speced sony, except for a higher resolution screen, double the RAM and actually lighter for about $750 less
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 11:24PM Liquidmark said
"If gaming gateway 7811 is much faster for about $800 less."
You're joking right?
The gateway laptops that I've seen have slower processors, a slower FSB speed, Slower RAM and slower videocards than the Mac Pro.
Seriously, their HIGH END laptops are running HD 2600's. All of their other laptops are running Intel integrated graphics.
There is NO WAY that a gateway laptop could be faster.
Please tell me that you aren't naive enough to think that a gateway laptop can hold a candle to a Macbook.
" You can get an identically speced sony"
Hmm
nope
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You're joking right?
The gateway laptops that I've seen have slower processors, a slower FSB speed, Slower RAM and slower videocards than the Mac Pro.
Seriously, their HIGH END laptops are running HD 2600's. All of their other laptops are running Intel integrated graphics.
There is NO WAY that a gateway laptop could be faster.
Please tell me that you aren't naive enough to think that a gateway laptop can hold a candle to a Macbook.
" You can get an identically speced sony"
Hmm
nope
Posted: Oct 19th 2008 4:45PM jaysins said
@liquidmark
Well if you had check out the laptop I mentioned above you naive twit you would have seen that I was being accurate and wouldn't look stupid right now. http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/gateway-p-7811fx/4505-3121_7-33201021.html check it out though the other week it was going for $1250 with a free $50 game at bestbuy. It has a way more powerful gpu, 9800gt and a much higher resolution screen than the macbook. It will easily get much higher fps with the increased resolution. As for sony just go to their website. Same processor, memory, hardrive, very dedicated gpu plus weighs less for way less money. If you weren't such an ignorant fanboy maybe you would have checked the facts before you made it obvious how you have no idea what your talking about. Moron.
@captcarl I was referring to putting OS X on normal pc parts. I agree about unix though I stay in linux platforms, been really enjoying the 8.10 ubuntu beta and love having vista and linux on the same box though you could easily add OS X as long as your components are mac compatible. There's a whole wiki page that makes it quite a streamlined process.
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Well if you had check out the laptop I mentioned above you naive twit you would have seen that I was being accurate and wouldn't look stupid right now. http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/gateway-p-7811fx/4505-3121_7-33201021.html check it out though the other week it was going for $1250 with a free $50 game at bestbuy. It has a way more powerful gpu, 9800gt and a much higher resolution screen than the macbook. It will easily get much higher fps with the increased resolution. As for sony just go to their website. Same processor, memory, hardrive, very dedicated gpu plus weighs less for way less money. If you weren't such an ignorant fanboy maybe you would have checked the facts before you made it obvious how you have no idea what your talking about. Moron.
@captcarl I was referring to putting OS X on normal pc parts. I agree about unix though I stay in linux platforms, been really enjoying the 8.10 ubuntu beta and love having vista and linux on the same box though you could easily add OS X as long as your components are mac compatible. There's a whole wiki page that makes it quite a streamlined process.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 4:35PM captcarl said
So many Mac haters out there...
*coddles his MacBook*
*coddles his MacBook*
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 6:08PM chispito said
I think they make great hardware that is priced accordingly and their OS is all right. What pisses me off is their ads and the way they try to make it seem like every change they make is the world's greatest innovation, even if it was done on a different platform 15 years ago (multi-button mouse/scrollwheel).
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Posted: Oct 17th 2008 6:56PM captcarl said
Apple's thing is all chic design. The hardware they design is pretty amazing.
My MacBook is primarily used for a combination of schoolwork, and work for work. The dev kit I use for my work-related stuff is available for Windows only, hence why I need something like VMWare.
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My MacBook is primarily used for a combination of schoolwork, and work for work. The dev kit I use for my work-related stuff is available for Windows only, hence why I need something like VMWare.
Posted: Oct 19th 2008 12:01AM BurntMeatloaf said
If the hardware they design is so amazing, why did they give up making their own logic?
I've been using Macs for over 10 years, and it wasn't until Apple started using PC hardware that they really got much better and even started being useful for games.
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I've been using Macs for over 10 years, and it wasn't until Apple started using PC hardware that they really got much better and even started being useful for games.
Posted: Oct 17th 2008 9:48PM Liquidmark said
" I'll try to think up wittier jokes next time and you agree not to get your panties so bunched up that they ram up your ass and force you to call people 5 different types of stupid instead of being able to laugh at yourself and a company you're so doggedly loyal to for once."
Hey, I never said Apple was perfect and I never said that there aren't funny jokes out there about Macs.
I said your 'joke' was ten years out of date. Thus was bad comedy. It's like, I was expecting Steve Urkel to come in and say "Did I do that?" in the next comment or something.
Want to see GOOD Mac VS PC jokes? Check out Joy of Tech or Supernews. Hell, In Supernews, Steve Jobs is portrayed as a bad guy and it is funny as hell.
When you say that Macs can't use multi-button mice when most mac users are using multi-button mice, you come off as a ignorant jackass.
Hey, I never said Apple was perfect and I never said that there aren't funny jokes out there about Macs.
I said your 'joke' was ten years out of date. Thus was bad comedy. It's like, I was expecting Steve Urkel to come in and say "Did I do that?" in the next comment or something.
Want to see GOOD Mac VS PC jokes? Check out Joy of Tech or Supernews. Hell, In Supernews, Steve Jobs is portrayed as a bad guy and it is funny as hell.
When you say that Macs can't use multi-button mice when most mac users are using multi-button mice, you come off as a ignorant jackass.
Posted: Oct 18th 2008 1:26AM (Unverified) said
Wanna hear a better joke?! MACINTOSH.
*BA DUM CHA*
I'll be here all weekend.
I'm just playin'
Oh, and hey, you kinda forgot to hit reply!
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*BA DUM CHA*
I'll be here all weekend.
I'm just playin'
Oh, and hey, you kinda forgot to hit reply!
Posted: Oct 18th 2008 7:57AM Liquidmark said
I did hit reply. For some reason my comment ended up over here.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2008 8:42AM (Unverified) said
Yeah, I hate Joystiq's comment system. A lot. =(
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Posted: Oct 18th 2008 12:49PM Saria the Cat said
;) I never said Macs can't use multi-button mice. Nope. And it should be quite obvious from my original post that it was intended to be completely silly.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2008 2:51PM Liquidmark said
You said: "Now, if only they can get some of that wacky cutting-edge right-click technology in there, I'll be sold!"
A clear implication that Macs can't right-click.
Your original comment looked pretty much sarcastic to me.
Your joke was derivative and just plane overused. It's like, if I made a similar joke about needing a Bachelors in Computer Science in order to turn the average PC on. Lord knows neither one is true anymore.
As a joke, it is bad comedy.
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A clear implication that Macs can't right-click.
Your original comment looked pretty much sarcastic to me.
Your joke was derivative and just plane overused. It's like, if I made a similar joke about needing a Bachelors in Computer Science in order to turn the average PC on. Lord knows neither one is true anymore.
As a joke, it is bad comedy.
Posted: Oct 19th 2008 7:21AM Liquidmark said
PLAIN overused...
Geez, ruined a perfectly good ripping remark... -_-'
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Geez, ruined a perfectly good ripping remark... -_-'
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:09AM (Unverified) said
Warhammer causes my 2.53 Ghz Macbook Pro to black screen/lockup. First time I play during the day, it takes about an hour. Subsequent crashes take less than 5 minutes. I believe the video card is overheating. In attempts to solve the problem I have tried multiple sets of drivers and putting all settings on minimum. This seems to have helped extend the time I can play before a crash, but has not solved the crashing.
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