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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:00AM whatthegeek said

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I'm gonna rock it Sesame Street style - One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just isn't the same.

The guy from Play should try out a few good games, and then compare them to this game, and see if he feels differently. I'm assuming, of course, this is the first game he's ever played.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:02AM Temidien said

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Out of curiousity, have you even tried the game? I know it looks horribly mediocre and I tend to side with the majority feeling on a game, but if you haven't actually played the game there's no reason to diss the guy who enjoyed it.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:05AM whatthegeek said

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I did try it very briefly at a friends house - I can safely say, it's not a good game.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:10AM Temidien said

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Alright then, fair enough. I didn't mean to go after you, I ust don't appreciate it when people on these boards attack games they don't even try to understand. Beast Rider may not be a gem in the gaming community, but some appreciate it for their reasons and it's not fair to the game creators to get such bad reviews of their product without proper evaluation. I don't know how right Halverson is on the issue, as I haven't played the game, but he has a point about reviewers not giving games a proper chance many times.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:17AM whatthegeek said

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To be fair, I will say I don't have enough hands on time to give it a proper review, and every game (even the terrible ones) will appeal to someone - it just seems this particular game was pushed out the door on a very low budget - and it suffered for it.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:53PM (Unverified) said

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Sorry but you are full of it. The game definitely rocks. But of course you probably played the game for 20 minutes ala IGN and made your assumptions about it. People should definitely check the game out.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:01AM ZaxCG2 said

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You can't get me to play a game that they slap an older, better classic name on and say its the same.

Oh wait... that's about every one of Sega's games?

((Read this post in under 2 seconds and you win a free internet))
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:01AM Huey2k2 said

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Note to self: Play takes bribes from game publishers.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 3:10PM CharginChuck said

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That's not exactly news. Play has always given shockingly good reviews to horrible games. How anyone can actually willingly read such a publication, whose editors have obviously never even heard the phrase "journalistic integrity" is a mystery to me.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 1:20PM ludwigk said

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Whether that's true or not, well, I don't really care. The important thing is that they also gave the universally-panned "Sonic the Hedgehog" for X360 an 8.5/10. Whatever their motivation, their reviews are utter rubbish, and their Sega reviews seem to be inflated by about 100%. Maybe his review was based on screenshots or something?
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 2:02PM heypaul said

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Remember this, guys? Take a look at the top of the list.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/lair?q=lair

Either these guys take bribes, or have never played a good game in their lives.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 4:28PM stalepie said

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No, Play Magazine just doesn't think with the herd. They give their own opinions.

See Dave Halverson's editorial about this:

http://playmagazine.com/index.php?fuseaction=SiteMain.showGamePage&Game_ID=887

This guy has been playing games for a long time, and the rest of the staff at that magazine is just as veteran. Seriously, they know their games...
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 4:28PM Klitorisaurus said

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Maybe Play just has a soft spot for giant reptilian creatures.

You ever think of that?
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 6:49PM DrunkRaba said

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@ Heypaul

Lair was a pretty fun game, and the control was quite believable. Only hitch was trying to do the 180 flip, which you didn't really need anyways. Not that it was a great game, but was a good 7.5 to 8 for me.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:05AM Don Jose said

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Was anyone, anywhere, ever looking forward to this game or even considering the possibility of playing it? I've considered it laughable since the first mention of it I ever read, which, not surprisingly, I can't remember. My mind started long ago working to do something that whoever greenlighted this will probably want to do for quite the rest of their career(s)...forget about it.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:39AM Vidikron said

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I was, very briefly, when I first heard about it. Then when I found out it wasn't going to have co-op any interest I had was smashed. Co-op was the main reasons I loved the original and Golden Axe without co-op isn't Golden Axe.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:52AM (Unverified) said

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YeaH I know man, this game reminds me of how Ledendary is gonna be, that game looks like shit.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 1:16PM (Unverified) said

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I hoped the game would do good. I knew it was going to be horrible, but I hoped it would be good. Kind of like Dragon Ball the movie. Although, I actually look forward to that movie being horrible.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 5:27PM thund3rstruck said

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Well, Don you obviously didn't grow up with the Sega Genesis. Golden Axe was one of the pinnacle titles for that system right up there with the Sonic Series and Streets of Rage.

I was really excited about this one until I read that you could only play as the chick. There was a little barbarian troll dude that you could play as in the original and when you used his magic, a giant fire breathing dragon appeared on screen (the entire screen) to kill your foes.

When I was 10 years old, it was the coolest thing I had ever seen in my life.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:09PM (Unverified) said

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Actually there are a lot of people who were awaiting this game and here's a newsflash...... the game is actually good. Better than 3.2/10. Not 9/10 good but probably 7/10 good. The game looks good, plays good. By action game standards its incredibly long. It has unlockable outfits. Really awesome beasts to ride. The parry/evade system works beautifully. But my only complaint is that the combo system is not as in-depth as it should be. That and the game could really use a steady framerate. So while the game is not GOTY material it definitely gets the job done. Its really sad that this game has been marred by the IGN review. I think Dave Halverson probably tried to make his review make up the difference for the incredibly unprofessional and low review by IGN by giving the game a 9 when it probably should have gotten a 6 or 7. I definitely recommend this game to anyone who loves action games. Treat the first level as a tutorial to learn how to play the game and then enjoy from there cause it can be kind of slow for the first level.
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Posted: Oct 22nd 2008 4:19PM (Unverified) said

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@ nealbailey

Then you obviously did not play the original Golden Axe, or you don't remember it very well. The female barbarian was the only one with fire magic. The male barbarian had earth magic, creating lava spewing volcanoes. The dwarf had lightning magic. Also, the dragon only appeared if you had the max number of magic tonics in your inventory. Anything less and fountains of flame or fireballs would rain down instead.

I crunched many a quarter into the arcade machine way before I got the chance to repeatedly beat the crap out of the Sega Genesis version.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:05AM SpacePenguinBot said

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Dave Halverson, you are a hack.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:07AM (Unverified) said

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The blurb from the last review is one sentence. I'm guessing his review is as broken as his grammar.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:14AM KingBroly said

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Play needs to end. Seriously, they have no credibility. None. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Null. Void. Insignificant.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:21AM Duke said

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OK, I wanted this game to be good, but clearly it isn't. The reviews destroy the game and to see one review at a 9/10 is pretty strange. However, it's not so strange to see that score when you read the review. Dave Halverson's review reads like a virgin half wit's love (or lust) poem for a digital girlfriend - it's pathetic.

Dave said “But to score Beast Rider below a 7 is just irresponsible. These are not valid “opinions” of professional gamers.” Now really, you can’t be serious…all the other game reviewers are the crazy ones with invalid opinions? So, we are lucky to have you as the protector of truth in game play right?

Wrong.

How can one who says, “Her boobs are motionless until you reach Fiends Path, too, after which they have subtle natural animation, but I’m guessing that’s due to the detail on her various tops. Some flies, eh? Damn limited boob animation!” Then turn around and attack other reviewers for having invalid opinions.

Or there is this gem: “and there really isn’t anything more intoxicating than a beautiful half-naked woman riding bareback on a snarling beast.” This is what really matters to you in a game – that’s really sad. Not the myriad of problems the other reviews have seen, cause that stuff is way less important than a half naked digital image. You know, a batch of programmed pixels.

I know there are a lot of people around gaming who think that stuff does matter, and I for one don’t. Those of us who don’t have problems being around real women tend to concentrate on more game oriented issues. This is another person who just makes all of us gamers look like a bunch of immature losers who can’t get laid.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 12:11PM Jack Tretton said

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I subscribed to Play a few years ago, and reading your excerpts from his latest review brought crashing back the realization of how many of the magazine's cover stories were actually Halverson's stroke jobs -- page after page of insufferable fawning masquerading as critique. And now it's our pleasure to learn the femme fatale in the new Golden Axe game boasts a supple bosom. Is it any wonder Play publishes those creepy "Girls of Gaming" annuals?
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 2:52PM (Unverified) said

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yeah but.....boobs.

On a more serious note, i do actually agree with you, everything that guy writes pretty much goes perfectly along with the aforementioned "girls of gaming" BS. However, saying people who like girls in video games are attracted to bunches of pixels is like saying you're attracted to photons when you look at a real girl
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 3:48PM kaiyouske said

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So did you play the game or not?
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 7:49PM original fred said

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I AM attracted to a girl's photons
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:43PM (Unverified) said

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Don't forget: "The first two bosses (his lovely twin offspring) are what medieval wet dreams are made of"

and

"Be sure to take a good long look at the banshees, and when you’re not busy trying to kill her, the Queen of the Dead. May I have another, and another..."

I almost want to try out this game now. Party cos i feel sorry for it, and partly cos it sounds So Bad its Good in a Grindhouse style...
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:23AM ExMcCloud said

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I dont think PLAY has a good enough history to convince me this game will be good...lol....I'll rent it in 2 months after the my wallet recovers from the stroke its about to have......
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 5:44PM Ghen said

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too true
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:26AM (Unverified) said

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This is from the same guy that ran GameFan into the ground.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 3:05PM (Unverified) said

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Oh shit... I KNEW he sounded familiar!

I used to swear by GameFan. That and Expert Gamer were the only mags I'd read. I think GF finally went down about the time the Dreamcast did, didn't know he had something to do with it.

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:28AM (Unverified) said

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I started this at the weekend. It's not great, but it's not bad. It doesn't deserver the slating it's getting. I'd give it 6/10 myself, but there's not a great deal of hack n slash this generation and so it's worth getting if that's what you're into. It's a damned sight better than Beowulf, that's for sure.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:33AM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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Don't believe the masses they lie! Lol

Not everyone shares the same opinion, don't come down on one reviewer because they saw something special in the game.

I'm sure a majority of people hate some of the games I love.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 1:46PM (Unverified) said

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yeah, but don't gloss over the glaring flaws of the game you enjoy either. that's what a proper reviewer does, not lead people into a trap.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:42AM (Unverified) said

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Play magazine is still going?!
I guess that Sega ad money is all they've got then.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:47AM (Unverified) said

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Awww crap, I was hoping for the game to be good.... guess I'll just stick with the XBLA version.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:53AM LarZen said

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Wel im gonna buy it, never cared much about reviews anyways. Hope it wil get cheap soon becaus of all the bad reviews :P
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:53AM Bananarama said

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Check out some of the other games this guy has reviewed. He gave Viking: battle for asgard a 9, and Kingdom Under fire: circle of Doom an 8. He obviously loves crappy hack and slash games, so it's no wonder he gave this one a 9 too.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:56AM LarZen said

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Viking: battle for asgard is a great game
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 2:54PM (Unverified) said

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yeah I really liked viking. Sure it didnt deserve a 9, it had a bare bones story, low production values, but the core gameplay was a lot of fun.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:54AM ScottG13 said

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I'm waiting for the Nega-Review.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:51AM Jude said

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Oops, I thought that's what this was...
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:56AM Jack Tretton said

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I'm giving Play's 90/100 a 32/100.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:10AM Chibi Chaingun said

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Ok, since SEGA has released this craptastic game, hopefully they can start to release some details on the new Aliens: Colonial Marines game.

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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:12AM (Unverified) said

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Dave Halverson is a god damn failure. He gave a 9/10 to the previous Sonic game as well. I was so enraged by it that I sent a nasty email to him. Clearly, the guy has a hard-on for whatever crap Sega is willing to force upon us.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:58AM Haggard said

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Something is seriously wrong when Sega fanboys exist in 2008.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 2:56PM (Unverified) said

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you guys better start begging to avoid the incoming banhammer from Ludwig
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