The newly released PSP-3000 series should have a better screen than the old 2000 model. Not only does it have an expanded color depth, it's supposed to get rid of the ghosting that plagued every PSP since. While it succeeds, it appears that a new problem has emerged: scan lines, which make things look worse than they did in the 2000 model. A well-populated thread on the PlayStation forum shows the cries of dozens that are reporting the same problem.
Our test unit (which arrived today) also features the same problem. In fact, we're not digging the 3000 model at all. While the colors look nice, we're disappointed by its performance in sunlight. Even worse, the plastic on the new model feels cheaper than ever before.
Sony told Joystiq that they're currently "looking into this." Hopefully, it'll only take a firmware update to fix -- otherwise, many may opt to buy the 2000 series instead.
Reader Comments (50)
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 7:13PM MorbidToaster said
Ummmm...I have one, and yes, I noticed...But it's not that big an issue. Overall, I still prefer the new screen to the old, the contrast ration difference is gorgeous. I still feel that it was worth the upgrade.
If they fix it, great, if not, so what?
If they fix it, great, if not, so what?
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 7:15PM (Unverified) said
What a logical and well-thought out response. I wasn't expecting that.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:01PM (Unverified) said
"While the colors look nice, we're disappointed by its performance in sunlight."
I'd love more details pertaining to this statement, since better performance in sunlight was *the* big issue, IMHO.
I took a lot of flak on various forums for pointing out that the original comparison photo that every lemming pointed to in awe was basically worthless. The units were photographed at the same time (meaning the angle of the photo was different for both), and we all know a single degree or two can make a huge difference in brightness on the PSP.
It's a bummer that the brite is having problems, though. I was hoping Sony would knock it out of the park. :-(
I'd love more details pertaining to this statement, since better performance in sunlight was *the* big issue, IMHO.
I took a lot of flak on various forums for pointing out that the original comparison photo that every lemming pointed to in awe was basically worthless. The units were photographed at the same time (meaning the angle of the photo was different for both), and we all know a single degree or two can make a huge difference in brightness on the PSP.
It's a bummer that the brite is having problems, though. I was hoping Sony would knock it out of the park. :-(
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:01PM Andrew Yoon said
It's better -- but not significantly better, IMO.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 7:23PM (Unverified) said
But the selling point is that it's got a good screen for playing in sunlight. If that's not the case, then what the deuce?
Posted: Oct 22nd 2008 11:13AM (Unverified) said
@Konstantine
Well, these people seem to think the sunlight performance wasn't up to the promised performance. That seems to be the point.
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Well, these people seem to think the sunlight performance wasn't up to the promised performance. That seems to be the point.
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 7:26PM Za23 said
Be keeping that PSP phat...
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:01PM finalstar2007 said
the 3 of us lol i still use my old fat psp and still looks as new as ever , i like takeing care of my stuff :)
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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 3:50AM HandheldAddictblogspotcom said
Honestly, the PSP-2000 is cool, but if you're happy with the original PSP-1000, it's still a great device. I love the added features of the PSP-2000 (especially video out) but if Sony had stayed with the PSP-1000 I'd still be happy.
Now they've gone down this slippery slope of doing annual hardware revisions, each cheaper & worse than the previous build.
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Now they've gone down this slippery slope of doing annual hardware revisions, each cheaper & worse than the previous build.
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 5:29PM (Unverified) said
4 of us i still ave my fat one but i been messing around it too much, it is still great but i need a external charger cause i blew it out with a 3rd party charger when i didn't have original with me. The fat one is still great tho so durable i dropped it like at least 10 time and everything still good great condition only thing is that the sliver paint around is fainting off by over playing it
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:01PM (Unverified) said
See, now this the reason why i don't buy electronic devices when they first get released. Shit like this happens. Oh well. I'll buy a PSP-3000 someday, but not today. (maybe in year)
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 7:48PM xshinox said
all psp's had the ghosting problem? mines doesnt. the fizzy?
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 7:58PM LokeSTL said
Finally, someone reported on this. Hopefully they will resolve this quickly. I had already cashed in my PSP-1001 a month ago, and pre-ordered the Black 4gb bundle. I should have known better than making a jump like that before an electronic was tested....
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 8:19PM (Unverified) said
Yikes! I don't notice ghosting, but interlacing and the filters used to hide it get on my nerves. :(
I wasn't thinking of upgrading since I already have a Slim, but it sucks that the Brite has a problem like this. Hope it gets fixed in another hardware revision...
I wasn't thinking of upgrading since I already have a Slim, but it sucks that the Brite has a problem like this. Hope it gets fixed in another hardware revision...
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 8:27PM (Unverified) said
Well sony has done it again. pushing k-rap on to the customer. scan lines.cheap plastic bodys,screens that still don't work in sunlight. if they are being made in china instead of japan,theres your problem. the plastic is probally emiting radiation also. well i'm going to wait along time to get the 3000 black untill i see a faverable reveiw.:(
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 8:29PM (Unverified) said
I noticed this as well. It can be pretty annoying. :\ I'll have to try out some other games to see how far the problem reaches...
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 8:49PM MorbidToaster said
Can't this be fixed with a simple firmware update? It seems really minor.
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 8:58PM (Unverified) said
Ha.. up yours Sony.
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:28PM (Unverified) said
Sony (with your money): 'Ha. Up yours, consumer'
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 9:14PM (Unverified) said
Thank you for posting about this issue (and using my pic :P ). The interlacing-style artifacts were the first thing I noticed when I turned my new PSP on, so I'm glad that people are beginning to realise that it's a real issue.
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 9:35PM MrU2 said
(slowly losing my confidence and fanboyish attitude towards sony...) :sad face:
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 9:41PM (Unverified) said
I'm surprised you lasted this long.
Someone give this guy a medal.
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Someone give this guy a medal.
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 2:56AM (Unverified) said
I too am losing my PSP fanboy status, slowly buy surely.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:51PM (Unverified) said
Well, now I don't feel so bad about having an "inferior" display on my PSP-2001.
Let's face it, getting a good display on your PSP, DS Lite, iPod or notebook these days is almost like winning the lotto, especially on a "new" model. Too many cheap, inferior panels going around in Chinese factories these days.
Let's face it, getting a good display on your PSP, DS Lite, iPod or notebook these days is almost like winning the lotto, especially on a "new" model. Too many cheap, inferior panels going around in Chinese factories these days.
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 10:57PM (Unverified) said
I got the new psp-3000 on the release date, and looks fine, if you to really want to get picky then yes there are fine lines. Possible this is due to the enhanced screen, plus the anti-glare may have some effect on this? Who knows, Looks fine to me? I don't know if a firmware would be able to fix the refresh or led control of the screen?
Oh well, I'm a sucker for not waiting... X-(
We'll see if sony does anything or sweeps under the carpet.
Oh well, I'm a sucker for not waiting... X-(
We'll see if sony does anything or sweeps under the carpet.
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 5:04PM (Unverified) said
The only way you notice is if you put your face 1 inch from the screen and look really closely. Or you blow up the image in a way you never would see it. 99% of people will never notice it and the increase in color and lcd speed is awesome! Take this from somebody who owns and uses a PSP-3000 and has used the others.
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Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:20PM (Unverified) said
ahaha, my fat psp is the best! i was thinking about buying the new model, but after seeing my friends brand spanking new psp i decided not to upgrade. Not only does the new model feel very CHEAP! but also we did notice the scan lines. SONY! FAILED.
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:43PM wshwe said
I was wrong. There was something after all to see, actually to be avoided.
Posted: Oct 20th 2008 11:59PM (Unverified) said
Wow! i just got my new looking psp back from sony today. (2001 model) i got mine cheap from gamestop with problems from either defects or negligence. and did the whole process of sending it in.
sorry to say, i feel kinda glad this happened. just cause i didnt rush out and buy the new one. now im so proud of my psp. (kisses psp)
sorry to say, i feel kinda glad this happened. just cause i didnt rush out and buy the new one. now im so proud of my psp. (kisses psp)
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 12:06AM (Unverified) said
Now that I have looked for it on my psp I do see. Especially in fast moving objects in video. I am wondering whether it is software or hardware. My inclination is to think its a software issue, hopefully fixable with a firmware update. At any rate, if it is hardware, we are all well within warranty to get it fixed for free.
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 12:29AM (Unverified) said
Hey Andrew,do you see these lines bigger when you play the psp on a tv? looks like shit on it i bet,lol.
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 7:43AM (Unverified) said
Wow, thanks! This was all I needed - definitely no PSP 3000 for me. IN fact, maybe no more PSP at this point. Sad, but Sony has killed the system (in the USA) as effectively as if they had told all their customers to F-off.
And cheaper plastic with crap screen problems like this is exactly like saying that very thing.
And cheaper plastic with crap screen problems like this is exactly like saying that very thing.
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 7:42AM WarnerYoung said
Yeah, I noticed the interlacing when I got my 3000, but I only saw it on static screens if I rolled the screen around at different angles. Actually playing videos and games, it's not that noticeable, at least to me. Whereas on my old Phat, the ghosting was VERY noticeable to me.
I guess this is kind of subjective, or depends on some difference in people's eyes. Sort of like how I can't wear glasses with polycarbonate lenses, because I can see little rainbows around everything, but a friend of mine can't see them at all.
I guess this is kind of subjective, or depends on some difference in people's eyes. Sort of like how I can't wear glasses with polycarbonate lenses, because I can see little rainbows around everything, but a friend of mine can't see them at all.
Posted: Oct 22nd 2008 7:50PM Larz said
Funny you mention the glasses thing, I feel the same way. I've been talked into the poly lenses twice and I can't stand them. The rainbows are annoying, but even worse is the quality. The last time they said they had been improved so much that they were virtually identical to glass (very difficult to scratch, easy to clean) except they weight a lot less. Yeah right, I accidentally dropped them in sand a month later and they were all scratched up from it.
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Posted: Oct 21st 2008 2:05AM WarnerYoung said
I don't know. I can kind of see the interlacing in some cases, mostly when the screen image is static and I move the PSP around. It's almost unnoticeable in videos and games, though, at least to me. The ghosting on my old Phat was much more noticeable.
Possibly a subjective thing, where it's much more noticeable to some people than others.
Possibly a subjective thing, where it's much more noticeable to some people than others.
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 9:59AM (Unverified) said
after seeing this I'm thankful that I still have my phat. Maybe someday I'll get this if they fix it. I still would like that 4 gig bundle
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 11:28AM (Unverified) said
speaking of ghosting does anybody else NOT mind it? i think i'm in the minority here but i think it's kind of.... stylish lol
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 2:19PM (Unverified) said
Heh, I was warning everybody to trust their own eyes, not internet hype when buying these things. And I seem to had been right:
http://www.bartsnews.net/2008/10/but-i-did-bloody-tell-you.html
http://www.bartsnews.net/2008/10/but-i-did-bloody-tell-you.html
Posted: Oct 21st 2008 12:54PM (Unverified) said
The PSP-2000 already feels too cheap. You're saying the 3000 feels even cheaper?! If so, then Sony's doing a big mistake. When the word Sony comes to my mind, I reflexly think QUALITY. My PSP-1000, though also made in China, was a quality product. My PSP-2000 faceplate just sucks. Does anyone else gets bothered by the annoyingly attacked faceplate?
Posted: Oct 22nd 2008 11:51AM (Unverified) said
Sony is going cheaper with every iteration of the PSP. I won't be surprised if PSP-5000 happens to be a ballpoint pen.
Posted: Jan 17th 2009 12:16PM (Unverified) said
i think everybody should stick to the psp they have there always gonna be newer
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