We talk about PSP-3000 in Play Magazine

For that matter, look at driving games. Many use the right stick for gas & brake OR you can use the buttons. I think the whole, earlier gen console owners would feel left out is a cop out. The whole REASON to upgrade a console is to GIVE incentive for people to upgrade and I don't rightly feel adding a right control analog stick justifies a PSP2, which they obviously are not ready to unveil.

Your statement is even more lame.

Progress is not an overnight thing, and even you said so, the GameBoy carts have all been working up to the DS, that's over 15 years! and GameBoy Advance games still compatible, over 7 years right there!

The problem is, giving a second analog stick would make it easier for the developer to do a lazy job with the port, I know it sounds ridiculous, but you see, by restricting the controllers, developers are sorta forced to work around it.

Studios such as Bend, Zipper, and Slant Six have shown that great controls can be accomplished on the PSP so it is just pure bs whenever developers complain about it. If the controls of a game suck, there is no one to blame other than the developers themselves for sucking at designing.

Noshino, very true. It makes the developers be more creative in their games, because controls can sometimes decide the game.

But the second control stick would allow for those lazy developers to make a game as well. Sometimes just having games released, even if they are bad ones or poorly made, is enough to boost the customer morale.

Noshino - the point I am trying to make is that to say no to a second analog stick because they are worried about psp 1000 through 3000 users not being able to play new games feels like a weak excuse. If every company was worried about that, we'd still be using joysticks with one button.

Like the OP said, if that's the issue - then offer two control schemes. Or should every PSP model from here to the end of time stick with what it currently has to keep the lazy developers away?

Or maybe we aren't supposed to disagree because one of the august writers of this blog had something published?

no, one can disagree on anything, just like you did, and just like I disagreed with your statement. Only difference is that I corrected you and backed up my point.

See, you can't add a second analog to the PSP because it still PSP1, let's use examples shall we?

GameBoy line:
were there any changes on the controls of the following?
- Game Boy
- Play it Loud Game Boy
- Game Boy Pocket
- Game Boy Light
- Game Boy Color

ANSWER: NO

GameBoy Advance line:
were there any changes on the controls of the following?
- Game Boy Advance
- Game Boy Advance SP
- Game Boy Advance SP "Mark II"
- Game Boy Micro

ANSWER: NO

Now, the only exception to this reasoning is the DSi, but there is a difference as well, the DSi is aiming at a much broader crowd, the DS Lite has been awfully successful, and so they are just trying to extent the DS's lifetime.

Unlike Nintendo and the DS line, Sony is aiming for a crowd that is more technophobic, and that are much more informed about products and they would know that the differences aren't that radical. Those PSP-1000 would be more likely to buy a PSP2 than a PSP 2000 or 3000 series, so the second you tell them that the latest game is only compatible with the latest hardware design, they will be pissed. Not only that, other customers will be afraid as well that this might happen again and again (one of the few reasons why I don't like Nintendo anymore)

You can't compare PS1 controllers being replaced, because they didn't require you to buy a whole new SYSTEM to play the newer dual analog games.

The DS isn't a Gameboy or a GBA, it's an entirely new platform. No comparison there, either.

In fact, there exists no platform in history that required you to chuck out your old one and get a whole new one in order to play the newer games. Some systems required new peripherals or even new subsystems like the Sega 32X, but never were you required to CHUCK your whole system if you got in on the ground floor.

Upgrading the current PSP to dual analogs would simply be a nightmare. Maybe a few games could work in backward compatibility but in order to properly exploit such an upgrade there'd have to be some that didn't. Otherwise, what would be the point?

Leave internal storage, 3G, motion sensors, integrated cam/gps and dual analogs for the PSP2. Hopefully we'll hear some stirrings of such a beast sometime next year... Because Sony needs to be stirring up SOMETHING to reverse their current trajectory.

I didn't even consider that. You might be right. They would have to redesign the entire system for that reason. If they did add a second stick, the PSP probably wouldn't be the same shape it is today.

This is Play from the UK. Not Play from the US. Two different mags. One is much better than the other.

Thanks for that Andrew...don't go near the bad one then!

You can already play your games on a non hdtv with the 5.0 update with a psp 2000. It works I've tried it.

taximan6430 said...
You can already play your games on a non hdtv with the 5.0 update with a psp 2000. It works I've tried it.

Thanks for the info. What kind of cables are you using? If this works like you say, I'll save some cash and buy a core PSP 2000. I don't need a mic and I'm not interested in a new, brighter screen (that looks like crap). Thanks Sony, but I'll avoid being your test subject for your "improved" products.

Wha what? Seriously? I'll have to try that :)

+1

They're OLD GAMES. A second stick would not change the way old games play, but it would allow NEW GAMES to work correctly--not to mention PS1 games and PS3 games via Remote Play.

I cannot understand why anyone doesn't want new models of the PSP to have better controls.

p.s. If the 2000 series had improved the control scheme, fewer people would have bought PSPs without a second nub, etc. and so fewer would "need" to upgrade.

And there might actually be games coming for them to buy.

i dont think its people don't want new models with better controls its sony is possibly hesitant or has something big planned for a new control scheme (2nd nub or something). but they HAVE to know we want a 2nd nub or their customer relations team is HORRIBLE ;P