Fallout 3 relies on SecuROM 'only for disc check'

I really don't get how these companies cannot realize this does absolutely nothing to stop piracy. It stops one person from lending the disc to another person. Meanwhile, the torrent has 400 leechers and 800 seeders.

Well this sucks. So is there hidden SecuROM crap I can't remove in my computer now or is this "lite" version safer? I still don't know.

Maybe I've missed something, but is DRM really that big of a deal to those of us who actually pay for games? I don't have 3 computers anyway, and I don't live with 5 people who would each want their own account on my computer. Sure, it's the principle, but since when are principles more important than reality? As far as I'm concerned, this only really affects people who rip games and torrent them. If I'm wrong, don't flame, but instead I'd like someone to explain it, or link to something that does.

These people dont realize how much they're wasting thier time with all this DRM crap. People who want to pirate the game can find it in 30 seconds. Two days before fallout 3 went on retail it was all over public torrent sites... why do they continue to waste thier time?

Does steam have the same issue?

They could just, you know, have the game check for the disc itself. What was the point of licensing SecuROM for this purpose? Spending money so some hacker spends approximately 1.5 seconds longer than he would have already making a no-CD patch? Ugh.

It wasn't so bad when I was avoiding games that I probably wasn't going to buy in the first place (Far Cry 2, Spore). Why, Bethesda, why? You said you wouldn't be like that. :(

you don't need a no-cd patch to run fallout 3 without the cd. its as easy as changing the shortcut.

the official shortcut points to "FalloutLauncher.exe" which checks for the CD. but if you run "Fallout3.exe" directly it launches the game instantly (without the splash screen either).

People, this is not about piracy. This is about re-sale. Consider this: If I buy a used game, the developer gets zilch. If I pirate the game, the developer gets zilch. The DRM-folk know piracy can't be stopped. What they DO know is that if I see a copy on a gamespot shelf I'm not going to know how many installs have been used and I'm going to play it safe and but a new copy...developer gets money!

SecuROM and DRM in general is what is killing PC gaming, and the biggest reason I buy console games. Yes console games have "DRM" too, but I can still take my disc and put it in any 360 and it works, no matter how many 360's its been in.

DRM is the worst kind of bullshit. I'm glad that DRM Free music is actually picking up momentum. Maybe eventually that will translate to games too.

securom is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!! I bought morrowind on xbox, and oblivion on ps3, but, if i play fallout on my pc, it will be a pirated copy. You do not have the right to install securom on my pc. Securom will never be on my pc if i can help it, because i don't want it installed, and i can't uninstall it if it is installed. I thought bethesda was going to do the right thing here, and as in the past, i was ready to support fallout 3 with a retail purchase. NOT NOW! WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE LEARN! IT IS A GAME! YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TROJAN HORSE MALWARE ONTO MY MACHINE! until game companies figure this out i will only buy used copies of console games from companies who use securom on there pc games, and i will reccomend getting a pirated copy to everyone who wants to play a securom game on their pc. This is so frustrating. bethesda was one of the good guys, now their just another company who doesn't get it. How can you guys make such amazing games, but be so stupid, ignorant and short sighted as to the way you treat your customers?

UUmmm people....this game has no activation no install limits or checks...just a disc check like games from 10 years ago.....

Also Bethesda has nothing to do with EA... focus people this is a good thing to see a grade AAA flagship title bucking the DRM trend... it also tries hard to buck the sucky 50$ game trend as well!

Relying on SecuRom for anything is relying on SecuRom too much.

Keep that crap out of my system!

It's nice that they only have a disc check, but c'mon guys. Use a disc check not made by securom. Securom is a terrible malicious company that is ruining gaming. I won't even be buying the steam version, because the developer is choosing to use some of that money to pay off a completely evil company.

Damnit, I was planning on picking this up on PC but there's no way I'm touching anything with the word SecuROM anywhere near it.

Here's a question, and I'm guessing the answer is no, but hope I'm wrong. Can I download it off steam and still get achievements on my XBL/Windows Live account, and still play while logged in to Xbox Live? Or does that only work for the disc version?

Damn, people get HEATED over this topic. Though I can't really blame them.

You surely haven't read the post.

You clearly haven't read the article.

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I run Daemon Tools and Fallout 3 works just fine.

As much as I hate SecuROM and DRM in general, a simple disc check is an acceptable use of it. It approximates the soon-to-be-available Xbox 360 functionality of installing a game to disc, but being required to have the disc in the drive to play.

If you refuse to buy the game over this you have a seriously warped sense of perspective.