Microsoft: Half of initial NXE features cut
Johnson told CVG that there's "still a lot of stuff we want to do" and that "half of the things we wanted to do, we cut out of the service." One of these things was "a Photo Party app that will be part of the platform," he revealed. Using it as an example of the face of updates to come, Johnson said, "The way it will be distributed is all of a sudden you'll see a slot on the dashboard and if you don't have it you click on it and it's going to download from the service onto your application part of the dashboard. Those are the type of things we're going to start doing."
The Primetime channel, which will house various multiplayer, social-focused, live "game shows," will be delivered in this manner in spring 2009, Johnson confirmed. It had originally been slated as part of the NXE launch, before joining the list of things that were nixed.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Syn @ Nov 4th 2008 6:04PM
Thank god this isn't like Socom.
Kodros @ Nov 4th 2008 7:07PM
Huh?
sk8monroe81 @ Nov 4th 2008 7:54PM
lol...
socom is an online only ps3 game though... its supposed to have issues and problems. that's what we have come to realize with ps3 game releases. at least for a few days though.
this is an overhaul of the interface on the 360 and better not have many issues.
Kodros @ Nov 4th 2008 8:16PM
sk8monroe81 - You really are an ignorant boob.
sk8monroe81 @ Nov 4th 2008 8:31PM
kodros- u obviously didnt see the joke...
u didnt even know what syn was saying..
its sounds like you are more ignorant to the joke...
fanboys dont take jokes well though.
Tiptup300 @ Nov 5th 2008 3:05AM
Just a note to everyone, when they say there won't be big updates, they are saying that they changed how their system runs. Instead of NXE being some big application that runs overtop the entire console, they changed it into an actual OS on the console. So each feature there is, is now actually an application, so the applications can be updated by themselves. This also means that applications can be very easily installed (netflix, avatars.) So the big fall spring updates will just be like service packs now.
Kodros @ Nov 5th 2008 11:42AM
You're right, I still have no idea what Syn was talking about. I don't see the connection between a game and a UI.
As for the joke, what joke? I'm calling you ignorant because like a 1/3rd of your posts in the last two weeks has been talking about how PS3 can't handle online functionality while ignoring the other 99% of the games with online features that work fine at release.
I'm not a fanboy, I just don't like hearing people spewing incorrect garbage.
Vol @ Nov 4th 2008 6:04PM
Can't wait for the game installs.
rooshma @ Nov 4th 2008 6:43PM
They're fricking tight; the thing is so quiet it's unbelievable. So far my Fable II load times have had a 4.7s improvement on average.
Dig Dug @ Nov 4th 2008 6:43PM
Less plural please. The Dirtbox360 premium can only install one game in it's 13GB of free space.
Please feel free to interchange Dirtbox360 with PoorManBox360, SecondBestBox360, MakeDoBox360 or SendawayforrepairBox360 as appropiate.
Dig Dug @ Nov 4th 2008 6:52PM
@rooshma not a quiet as a PS3. Dream on for that one. The latest PS3's are totally silent, no fan noise, no drive noise. Even the latest 360's have really loud fans, and pretty loud DVD drives.
Bloo @ Nov 4th 2008 7:11PM
Hey Dig Dug, are you the same guy posting under the name Dumb Douche at analtear.org?
Snowblind @ Nov 4th 2008 8:20PM
I'm not sure why I'm bothering to respond.. But the 360 is just as quiet as the PS3 is when games are installed, it's the disc reader that normally makes the 360 loud (although it's no where near as bad as some of you make out) and that's completely gone when games are installed.
And most game installs are only 4-5gb. Even with only a 20gb hard drive, you can get quite a few games on there at one time, and remember, they're optional, and you don't need to keep them installed when you're not playing them.
tcc3 @ Nov 4th 2008 8:57PM
I tell you, there's nothing I like more than a quiet game system. Some times I just sit and listen.... its so zen. Doesn't matter if the PS3s library is super weak. Just listen to her purr.
rooshma @ Nov 4th 2008 10:55PM
Normally I don't bother to reply to people like you, but I'd like to point out a few things.
1) I have Fable II and Far Cry 2 installed and still have 1.1 gigs left.
2) Not all hard drives are 20 gigs, and though I know they're overpriced, the new 60 gig bundle is a bit better.
3) Yes, the PS3 is quiet, possibly quieter. However, it's a difference of 'really quiet' to 'really quiet +1'
4) My comment wasn't any sort of polemic against you, so please don't take it as such. If you like a particular console, go right ahead, do that, and don't ruin everyone else's day.
Duke @ Nov 5th 2008 11:29AM
Why argue with Dig Dug. The guy's one of the more ignorant trolls to ever post here. All he does is spew hate for the 360 and make up facts to feel special. Don't worry DD, I'm sure your PS3 loves it when you hold in in fetal position every night and cry like a baby.
Metal Geario 360 @ Nov 5th 2008 12:31PM
Dig Dug is tripping...
I boggle at how people try and make the 360 out to be a horrible system. ROFL.
Just plain ROFL.
Its the foundation "to current-gen' gaming" peasant!
*Cracks whip* Now off with ye...
Lavat @ Nov 4th 2008 6:07PM
Ha
Obie @ Nov 4th 2008 6:15PM
8 person private chat better not get cut!
Cody @ Nov 4th 2008 6:46PM
It won't, considering the NXE is already finished. Why would they want to take away something that's already created?
Premature ejaculation man @ Nov 4th 2008 6:16PM
The features that I know have been cut I don't care about... I hope the ones that I didn't know sucked, so I won't be annoyed when I find out =p
Titanium_Orchid @ Nov 4th 2008 6:16PM
Oh well, I guess if we never knew about them, we won't mess 'em. Right?
Does anybody know where/if this list of cut features can be found?
Nutman @ Nov 4th 2008 6:21PM
See this is cool. I like that now you'll be essentially able to download applications for your Xbox 360. Whats to stop them from striking a deal with Hulu and getting a hulu streaming application for the 360?
TheOverlord#2 @ Nov 4th 2008 6:26PM
You can see TV show seasons via Netflix.
Xoviet chiK @ Nov 4th 2008 6:40PM
As they air though, or do you wait for the DVD release?
Nutman @ Nov 4th 2008 6:52PM
Yeah you can get TV show seasons via netflix, but I think it would be cool if later on down the road there could be a "hulu app" for the dashboard that would allow you to, well, watch hulu! Anything that you can access on the site could be accessed on the 360.
Ordeith @ Nov 4th 2008 7:43PM
You mean like you already can with PlayOn?
Nutman @ Nov 4th 2008 8:11PM
Kind of. Except this would be official.
Arnon @ Nov 4th 2008 6:24PM
Yup.. when the mean cut out.. they mean "We will have random applications for download of the NXE later on!"
hexoDAT64 @ Nov 4th 2008 6:27PM
Amazing how this is all fine since this is Microsoft, but if this were Sony everyone would be ripping on them.
TheNewmanDynasty @ Nov 4th 2008 6:37PM
What are you talking about? sony doesn't have avatars.
They ripped off achievements from the MS.
And Home is a 2nd Life ripoff which is boring as hell which makes it even a more ridiculous debacle...
Rhys Corlett @ Nov 4th 2008 6:37PM
If this were Sony we'd have had it delayed twelve times and the features they’d talked about would have gone missing entirely.
Seriously, unlike Sony, Microsoft hasn’t promised things it can’t deliver. The things that they cut are not things we knew about or were looking froward to.
LunchBox Legend @ Nov 4th 2008 6:41PM
Because Sony is still so far behind in the online game. These are features that Sony hasn't even mentioned yet. You can stick with Sony and Home for free, I'd rather pay $50 for a quality online experience.
Vcize @ Nov 4th 2008 6:39PM
Except for a couple minor things, most of the stuff they "cut" is really just stuff they dreamt up but never announced. The big stuff that they announced (installs, 8-person private chat, netflix, avatars, etc) is all still there.
The difference is that if this were Sony, THOSE are the things that would have been cut. The hyped up, already announced stuff.
It's just a matter of different business approaches. Sony related stuff generally gets announced WAY earlier, and as such, experiences more delays and more announced features being cut and/or lacking. MS waits to announce stuff much of the time (though not always).
Gears 2 is the 2nd biggest game to release on the 360, and it wasn't officially announced until, what, 5 or 6 months ago? Look at how early the major PS3 games get announced. Killzone 2 announced, and then re-announced before games that came out before it. Any guess on how long before we see God of War 3 or FF13, or FF13:Versus? We haven't even heard a peep about Mass Effect 2 yet, but I bet that game comes out before either of the three I just mentioned. Home was announced YEARS ago, NXE was announced MONTHS ago, yet NXE is coming out first.
It's not a bad thing, not a good thing, just two different approaches. If you look at each holiday release schedule for ANY year way ahead of time, Sony's lineup will always look better because they've announced there stuff earlier. As more time passes, the other guys start announcing their stuff, and it evens out or passes it.
We saw the same thing with Blu-ray vs. HD DVD. Blu-ray would announce their entire yearly lineup way in advance, and then delay/cancel stuff as they saw fit. Toshiba with HD DVD wouldn't announce stuff until a couple months before it came out, and saw less delays. But at the beginning of every year it was everyone freaking out "OMG look at all those blu-ray exclusives this year and HD DVD only has like 6 exclusives!!!". Then, as the year went on, it all balanced out.
Dig Dug @ Nov 4th 2008 6:48PM
Exactly, and that's why the brainwashed Americans here sticking up for 360 after getting fu cked over with multiple RROD is simply hillarious.
The Aggie CEO @ Nov 4th 2008 8:18PM
@Vcize you seem like you are saying that NXE=Home.........Not The same thing..........as NXE is basically revamping the way the 360 looks and doesnt feature use of an avatar in a customizable location nor allow for said avatar to walk to a theater to watch/buy movies or(as of yet) play games with friends.......Home does all of that in the beta........
should Sony have held out on announcing Home until a few month b4 its release.......maybe.......but at least its coming soon
Snowblind @ Nov 4th 2008 8:23PM
@The Aggie CEO
But the 360 does have all of those features. It just doesn't have the 3D chat room slowing it all done :)
Arnon @ Nov 5th 2008 8:52AM
Snowblinds right. I would actually rather have the NXE over HOME. Reason? I bought the console for the games! Not for an application to walk around and do things OTHER than play the games on my 360. I realize you can launch a game from HOME, but the NXE isn't some app. It IS the dashboard, and I can do everything from the NXE.. IN a game. To me.. it just seems so much more proficient.
Newsboy @ Nov 4th 2008 6:36PM
Or you can do what I did, use your US account (i'm from NZ) to download the Photo Party software and then access it from the Quick Launch menu.
DigDug @ Nov 4th 2008 6:41PM
Just get a PS3, you can do that already dude, no need to pay any monthly subscriptions to Microsoft for the pleasure either.
LunchBox Legend @ Nov 4th 2008 6:47PM
I love how everything with PS3 fanboys goes back to their online being free. You know why it's free? Because it stinks. NXE is just another tangable thing that Live subs get for their $50.
Dig Dug @ Nov 4th 2008 6:49PM
Sh1tty comment system is almost as rubbish as the 360. This was supposed to be a reply to the Hulu streaming comment. You can already stream Hulu on Ps3 just fine, no rip off fees to pay.
Dig Dug @ Nov 4th 2008 6:49PM
What stinks exactly? Seems fine to me, as good as my 360 before it went in the trash after failing for the 4th time.
Hala Madrid!! (Spaniards for ObamaBiden08) @ Nov 4th 2008 7:00PM
@DigDug
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sk8monroe81 @ Nov 4th 2008 7:54PM
dig dug- is one of biggest TROLLS on joystiq.
CONFIRMED.
The Aggie CEO @ Nov 4th 2008 8:19PM
@LunchBox Legend
so what you are saying is you have to be a PAID subscriber to get NXE update???
Marty @ Nov 4th 2008 6:43PM
Man, I'm excited for all of this all over again. Microsoft has definitely made 2008 a year to remember for the Xbox 360.
MEATLOAF2 @ Nov 4th 2008 8:17PM
ps3 can do anything 360 can do and more, even after NXE........ "WEB BROWSER" DUHHHHH :p
Snowblind @ Nov 4th 2008 8:27PM
I didn't use the web broswer on the Dreamcast, I don't use it on the Wii and I don't use it on the PS3. Why waste time and space by adding one for the 360?
I'd prefer they continue to focus on features that actually benefit games and usability and not ones that are just added for the sake of being added.
yayoyayo @ Nov 4th 2008 8:31PM
well i have a 360 and i do my web browsing on the machine that was designed to do soo, with a keyboard and a mouse, not a sixaxis controller.
do you truly use the ps3 to do your web browsing, im asking because if you can afford a ps3 you obviously own a computer, so is ps3 having web browsing capabilities really important?