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Rumor: DSi hacked, world surprised it took so long

by Ludwig Kietzmann on Nov 4th 2008 4:55PM

"Hello? Yes, this is World. Hello? Hello? Why does nobody answer me?!"

Just imagine how annoyed you would be if the planet's numerous hackers, modders and programmers sought to address you every time they wanted to prove the effectiveness of a piece of code. The "Hello World" proof of concept is customary, but oh so rude. People always leave poor World hanging after that.

In any case, it would appear that the latest voice to join the choir of electronic greetings is Nintendo's newest portable wonder, the DSi. According to an unverified Youtube video, provided by one "Yasusoft" (developer of the YSMenu custom DSTT menu) and embedded after the break, the camera-equipped device has already fallen prey to software tinkering. Posters on GBATemp speculate that the hack sore used a modified TIFF image file to cause a buffer overflow.

Well, obviously. We totally knew that. Didn't we, World? Hello?

[Via GBATemp, DS Fanboy]

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Tags: DS, DSi, Hacks, Hello-World, World-Are-You-There, World-Why-Are-You-Not-Returning-Our-Calls

Reader Comments (39)

With straight-up SD compatibility, i'm not surprised.

Though it probably has tougher firmware to crack

It's funny, the buffer overflow exploit is one of the oldest, and yet Nintendo has fallen for it several times... (see Twilight Princess hack)

I don't think that will change. Check your damn pointers, Nintendo.

Not surprised. I figured the TIFF image thing would happen, but not this early. I was expecting around December. I still wont buy this though, just because of a lack of a GBA slot.

You are missing the genius potential of the DSi.

Since they gutted the GBA slot... and put in on-board memory... what do you think manages the onboard memory? Very likely, the same processes which managed the GBA!

So a hack, IMO, can have great potential, allowing a DSi Slot-1 device not only direct access to the onboard memory, but also allowing GBA Roms to be run from the onboard memory space.

I doubt it. It would take lot of modifiction to the firmware to enable that. The onlyway I see GBA on DSi is through an emulator. Which won't run full speed for all games.

awesome! i mean ill give money to nintendo to buy the thing, but buying cartridges for 40 bucks is where i draw the line. piratebay here i come!

Oh no, $40?!?! Noooooooooo!

Compared to zero dollars, that's quite a lot of money for some people.

#1 - You only pay $40 for shitty Square Enix remakes.
#2 - ThePirateBay sucks. Megaupload link sites + Cryptload or jDownloader = bliss.

Rrrrrrr.....The pirates have landed and they have come to take yer booty.

My firmware brings all the pirate to the yard, and they're like, it's easier to crack than yours.

Nice tags. :P

why is it always a modified tiff image causing a buffer overflow?

http://www.absoluteanime.com/kirby/tiff.htm

?

Check the thread on gbatemp about the video, somewhere among the first 5 or so pages there is a link and some quote about how tiff uses pointers within the file for it's data or something such. So I guess as long as you trust the file to be valid you'll get into troubles.

And libtiff has had multiple buffer overflows so if they use that instead of implementing their own I guess they will all be affected once someone find a bug.

I guess homebrewers will be happy. And probably Nintendo made the firmware upgradable now.

Will this new Ds have firmware updates? If not then HURR HURR HURR

Everyone who thinks this is "just for piracy" must not have ever used DS homebrew. There's a lot of good homebrew games for it. AmplituDS is quite possibly the best game for the system...though it needs more songs.

I used the homebrew emulator to emulate pirated roms. Homebrew is usually not that amazing unless your talking about the iphone homebrew scene then yes it's amazing.

Mother 3 English can be used via DS homebrew also, right?

The psp can emulate it but not the ds.

Yeah. I think you've got to use the GBA slot to play mother 3 on the DS. No SD slot GBA (yet).

Mr. Khan:
Yes, you can play modified GBA games on a DS.

You'll either need a Slot-2 flashcart (which usually has a GBA mode to run in as well as DS mode), or a slot-2 accessory (such as the EZ Flash 3-in-1) to go along with a slot-1 flashcart.

In response to Zombie Jesus...

If you can't find high quality DS homebrew its because you are not looking.

Just a few Amazing Ds Homebrew not found on other hand helds off the top of my head :

Colors!
LoneWolf DS Book 1 and 2.. ( 3 in developement )
Mario Paint Composer
Still Alive DS
Pocket Physics

All of these are arguably commercial quality and not available elsewhere.

If TIFF's are so exploitable (PSP, iPhone, iPod Touch, now this), why do these products support them?

Go ahead and hack your DSi all you want, but don't even think about playing pirated DS games on it. I'd say that Game Boy games are fair game (maybe even Advance now that the slot is gone), but don't ever pirate modern games.

Homebrew's A-OK, though.

thank you oh great god of morals

My morals are right and you know it.

And even when it comes to old games, pirate those with caution. It's still piracy, after all.

I'm not saying they're not. I'm pointing out how silly you seem posting that.

Yeah but it's the Internet, so seeming silly is sometimes the point.

Maybe I would care about buying games for the DS, but I don't. I simply don't have the cash to go out and buy the games that come out for the thing when I'm already buying games for my PS3 and 360. I've purchased like 10 DS games in my lifetime. I'm pretty sure 10 games is higher than the average attach right so I figure I've done my part for Nintendo.

rate*...

Hang on, I have had every gameboy (and still do) but what I don't understand is why people think nintendo sees a difference in homebrew games, and piracy. I mean from a marketing standpoint there is no difference. You're playing a homebrew game in replacement of buying a game, or you're downloading a game in replacement of buying the game. Both equal lost sales to nintendo...

$40 x 20 games a year + tax = ~$900 a year to play some games. noooo indeed, piracy FTW.

Very few DS games are $40... most are $30 or $35, some are even cheaper.

Some people would argue that playing those games is not some sort of undeniable right you magically have, but rather a privilege, that you can earn by trading some money for.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a self-proclaimed pirate and have bought a grand total of 6 games for my DS, but it's laughable to justify pirating with lack of money, or the high cost of software, as piracy is the #1 excuse software companies use to increase prices.

20 games a year?

Shoot. I usually only pull half of that for my total combined purchases

FREE GAMES FOR EVERYONE! WHORAY BEER!

Chris: What the hell are you smoking? Piracy, and certainly not homebrew, IS NOT LOST SALES.

Of the people who pirate software not even a percentage would buy the same software were it not available illegally. This has been the result of countless studies, and is accepted by even the most delirious software developers.

People who buy software buy it, people who don't either pirate it or don't get it at all.

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