Usually, we're anti-censorship, but we kind of see where Bethesda's coming from on this one. What do you think?
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Usually, we're anti-censorship, but we kind of see where Bethesda's coming from on this one. What do you think?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 1:50PM Huey2k2 said
Censorship is still stupid.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 6:04PM BananaBoat said
Ahem...Joystiq....What mission would that be? The damn mission I haven't gotten to yet? Could that be the LAST SCENE OF THE GAME?
............. grrrrrrrrr
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............. grrrrrrrrr
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 7:03PM (Unverified) said
actually, BananaBoat. its even one of the very first (if not the first) quest you'll encounter after leaving the vault.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 11:34PM BananaBoat said
It better be. I'm looking forward to playing Fallout 3 after I finish my "evil" playthrough of Fable II. Already did a "good" play through, which involved only one wife. Now? I'm going to impregnate anything that walks baby! Whooooooooo.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 12:14AM (Unverified) said
thats the only reason i like america... appeals!
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 11:25AM Chronomaster said
I'm joining the 'wouldn't censor it' bandwagon, even considering it's Japan.
I'm hard to offend so...
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I'm hard to offend so...
Posted: Nov 13th 2008 12:33PM (Unverified) said
I bet they renamed the Fat Man mini-nuke launcher. Seeing as Fat Man was the name of the bomb dorpped on Nagasaki?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 1:51PM Shagittarius said
Ya know when I had to escape the vault I blew that girls dads head off right in front of her...but she didn't care she still helped me escape...
I wouldn't have shot him if I had known it was him but I just saw her being interrogated and acted when I thought they were going to hurt her.
I wouldn't have shot him if I had known it was him but I just saw her being interrogated and acted when I thought they were going to hurt her.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 3:06PM SpacePenguinBot said
hehe, I put my weapon away and took a swing at him first. She ran out of the room screaming, and then I finished him off. She gave me a stern talking to, but still helped me escape. She got over it by the time I came back to the vault.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 3:15PM (Unverified) said
I killed the guard and not her father.
I was sternly reprimanded for not killing her father in front of her.
women... sheesh
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I was sternly reprimanded for not killing her father in front of her.
women... sheesh
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 6:18PM (Unverified) said
I took a different strategy and didn't bother helping her. Call me an asshole.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 1:54PM WiNGSPANTT from TopTierTacticsco said
I don't see why Japan has to censor the whole A-bomb thing.
They deal with the "getting hit with an a-bomb" part of the game, while we (Americans) deal with the "evil mutants run Washington, D.C." part of the game.
The truth hurts.
They deal with the "getting hit with an a-bomb" part of the game, while we (Americans) deal with the "evil mutants run Washington, D.C." part of the game.
The truth hurts.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:41PM mirage said
Yea, screw all of the people who were in DC when it was really decimated and infested with Super Mutants!! Their feelings aren't important at all. Oh wait, that never happened did it.
It is hard to compare DC covered with Super Mutants (Fiction) to the only civilian population to have ever had Atomic Bombs used against them (Fact).
I am not really for censorship either, but is it censorship when the artist chooses to consider another persons feelings? I think not.
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It is hard to compare DC covered with Super Mutants (Fiction) to the only civilian population to have ever had Atomic Bombs used against them (Fact).
I am not really for censorship either, but is it censorship when the artist chooses to consider another persons feelings? I think not.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:44PM (Unverified) said
Right, because our nation still carries the emotional scars of actually fighting an apocalyptic war against super mutants.
You're a dumbass. Different cultures are different, I know it's a very taxing idea to grasp. Also as someone else pointed out, it isn't a move by the Japanese government. It was a pre-emptive move by BethSoft, like when Blizzard cryptically replied that there are some issues with pandas in China and that's why panderans will never really be featured in WoW, but the Chinese government has no actual law concerning panda portrayal in the media.
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You're a dumbass. Different cultures are different, I know it's a very taxing idea to grasp. Also as someone else pointed out, it isn't a move by the Japanese government. It was a pre-emptive move by BethSoft, like when Blizzard cryptically replied that there are some issues with pandas in China and that's why panderans will never really be featured in WoW, but the Chinese government has no actual law concerning panda portrayal in the media.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:52PM WiNGSPANTT from TopTierTacticsco said
It was a joke. How could you not pick up on that?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 3:11PM (Unverified) said
dude, i laughed my a** off at that. Sorry it offended those above, but honestly. Hilarious.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 3:21PM (Unverified) said
think about it logically, to set off a nuke in megaton which is in washington DC would almost be like avenging japan since it was america that dropped nukes on them in ww2. to remove that mission seems like stupid.
i think limb dismemberment is okay just decapitations is what japan disapproves of. but i dont ever recall ninja gaiden 2 being censored. possibly imported content must go some kind of approval system.
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i think limb dismemberment is okay just decapitations is what japan disapproves of. but i dont ever recall ninja gaiden 2 being censored. possibly imported content must go some kind of approval system.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 3:28PM Keithustus said
Evil mutants are already running DC, at least until January 20th.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 3:45PM (Unverified) said
No. A one-to-one deal would be Japan gets the A-bomb mission, and the U.S. gets the "Fly two planes into the sides of heavily populated buildings; watch people jump to their death" mission.
It's not censorship, it's called "Sensitivity". And sometimes, that not a bad thing.
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It's not censorship, it's called "Sensitivity". And sometimes, that not a bad thing.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 4:54PM (Unverified) said
Lets Japaness version exchange atomic bombing mission for Nanking Massacre "mission":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
Makes you warm at heart that even Nazis were squeamish about Japanesse murders and war atrocities.
It also helps if you have a problem with shoting Japanesse soldiers in newest Calll of Duty (*hint* our own Joystiq redactor *hint* )
Pity that you wont find it in history books in Japan but Hiroshima will be on every second page....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
Makes you warm at heart that even Nazis were squeamish about Japanesse murders and war atrocities.
It also helps if you have a problem with shoting Japanesse soldiers in newest Calll of Duty (*hint* our own Joystiq redactor *hint* )
Pity that you wont find it in history books in Japan but Hiroshima will be on every second page....
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:23PM (Unverified) said
"The women were often then killed immediately after the rape, often through mutilation, including breasts being cut off;[25] or stabbing by bamboo (usually very long sticks)[26], bayonet, butcher's knife[citation needed] and other objects into the vagina. There are also claims of Japanese troops forcing families to commit acts of incest."
Damn.
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Damn.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 1:55PM Haggard said
Ugh, I was reading the comments on GamePolitics and someone was like "HOW DARE THEY BE OFFENDED, THEY STARTED IT!".
None of you better kick off like that!
None of you better kick off like that!
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 1:56PM Professor Lario said
Why censor it? It isn't forced in the game - it's a choice, why not leave it at that?
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 1:58PM Professor Lario said
How so? Rather than blow up a town you can save it. Wouldn't that appeal to those put off by blowing up cities?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:00PM (Unverified) said
It's on order with including the option to blow up the Twin Towers in a game (although multiply the magnitude by a LOT). It would hurt sales, most likely.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:00PM (Unverified) said
Do they censor or ban movies with A-bomb explosions in them as well?
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:57PM (Unverified) said
Yeah, I understood it wasn't the gov't.
Guess I should clarify whether studio's have censored movies in the past...
Anyhow, I can probably dig up a bunch of Anime movies with a-bomb scenes in them... seems silly to censor this game if there's no presedent for complaints or protests of other types of media with similar content.
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Guess I should clarify whether studio's have censored movies in the past...
Anyhow, I can probably dig up a bunch of Anime movies with a-bomb scenes in them... seems silly to censor this game if there's no presedent for complaints or protests of other types of media with similar content.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:02PM (Unverified) said
Sounded stupid to me. Until I thought about, "What if there was some skinhead anti-ghoul "nazi" who gives you the choice to round up some ghouls and place them in a gas chamber where you can watch them die from a distance." I would probably be offended and would rather not have the choice even offered to me.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:02PM Dirty said
I thought the pearl harbor mission was the best part of the medal of honor game that it was in. (I forget which one it was). This isnt even glorifying a real event.
This is just a nuke going off in America in a fictional setting. Just saying.
This is just a nuke going off in America in a fictional setting. Just saying.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:02PM darkinchworm said
"My ancestors felt the aftermath of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. With that I must profess a delicate spot in my heart and a sensitivity toward the subject matter."
"Tragedies happen, acknowledging this is the best way to cope."
"I'm Japanese and frankly I don't give a damn."
"HAY GUYZ I'M A DOOSHBAG"
Multiply by at least 100, stir. Tada, thread over, you can close it now.
"Tragedies happen, acknowledging this is the best way to cope."
"I'm Japanese and frankly I don't give a damn."
"HAY GUYZ I'M A DOOSHBAG"
Multiply by at least 100, stir. Tada, thread over, you can close it now.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 3:31PM Keithustus said
It sure would be terrible if a new generation of people had to think carefully about nuclear weapons instead of pretending they stopped being relevant when the Cold War ended.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:02PM (Unverified) said
I'm normally against any kind of censorship also but I can understand why the whole atomic bomb thing would hit a little to close to home in Japan. WWII was over 50 years ago now, but I'm sure those attacks on Nagasaki and Hiroshima are still fresh in some people's minds, even if they weren't alive at the time.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:04PM (Unverified) said
The whole game is about nuclear war but does that mean they should just censor everything? Surely if that one mission is offensive the whole fact of roaming around a nuclear wasteland is equally offensive.
Ridiculous if you ask me.
Ridiculous if you ask me.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:06PM WiredKnight said
Removing the Megaton mission isn't censorship, it's a revocation of freedom.
I'd understand if you had to set it off, but you don't, you make the choice.
I'd understand if you had to set it off, but you don't, you make the choice.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:15PM TheGreatLoni said
I think Bethesda is making a pretty clear statement here. They have moved away from the legacy of the original fallout series, which were crafted in order to make an impression and to get people thinking about the potential consequences to society if the nukes drop. Sure it was done in a fun and rather fantastical way, but the statement was still there.
Bethesda removing this part from the game proves they don't care about the message so much as selling more copies. Shame on them.
Bethesda removing this part from the game proves they don't care about the message so much as selling more copies. Shame on them.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 2:19PM Negatron said
Hrmm who's more hypocritical/confused? The US or Japan.
Yes lets ban some gore and nuclear themes for a country that has Hentai, with demon penises maiming innocent school girls upon orgasm...
Then we can join our bosses after work, for some sake and bukakke(sp?) with the new secretary.
/sarcasm off
As many say: Censorship sucks.
Yes lets ban some gore and nuclear themes for a country that has Hentai, with demon penises maiming innocent school girls upon orgasm...
Then we can join our bosses after work, for some sake and bukakke(sp?) with the new secretary.
/sarcasm off
As many say: Censorship sucks.
Posted: Nov 12th 2008 4:58PM Negatron said
I turned off the sarcasm for the final statement. :)
Other than that, studies have proven sex and violence go hand in hand, therefore Japan isn't that dainty. So my referral to Hentai etc, is not saying "Japan is weird".
Its more like saying, F3 with its original content is not going to shock and offend, resulting in an uproar to take the game off the shelves.
"Bethesda's "attempt" at being sensitive seems more like insurance to me. "Just in case we offend", omit the content and not have to worry about a kink in the sales.
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Other than that, studies have proven sex and violence go hand in hand, therefore Japan isn't that dainty. So my referral to Hentai etc, is not saying "Japan is weird".
Its more like saying, F3 with its original content is not going to shock and offend, resulting in an uproar to take the game off the shelves.
"Bethesda's "attempt" at being sensitive seems more like insurance to me. "Just in case we offend", omit the content and not have to worry about a kink in the sales.
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