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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:12PM (Unverified) said

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Very nice... I have seen that before but just know where where...
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 10:41PM Negativecool said

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Totally. Looks fresh, and best of all, it looks free.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:16PM Zertoss said

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Saw it sometime early this afternoon when I fired up Fallout 3 on Steam. It's definitely a big improvement.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:20PM Vcize said

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So Fallout 3 is still Games for Windows Live enabled (with achievements, being logged into XBL, etc) even if you download it on steam?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:25PM einhanderkiller said

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Yes, pretty much.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:08PM captcarl said

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I almost bought Fallout 3 on Steam, but I didn't because I wasn't sure if it was going to be Live enabled or not. I ended up buying the Collector's Edition. Is it both Live enabled AND Steam client enabled?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:40PM MowDownJoe said

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Do, you can unlock two sets of achievements? DOUBLE E-PEEN BONUS!
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 10:05PM einhanderkiller said

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It's GFW - Live enabled through code in the game.

The Steam client stuff runs separate from the game and is an overlay when you use it while playing the game. You can use the Steam overlay with pretty much any game.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 10:31PM Zertoss said

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I don't think there are any Steam achievements for the game. Those seem to be reserved for Valve's games, unless I'm mistaken.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 2:55AM Haggard said

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They're not reserved for Valve games, it's just nobody else bothers to put them in. The Steamworks software to do so is completely free.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:16PM (Unverified) said

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Games For Windows is useless without cross-platform games... How are we supposed to pwn pc noobs if we cant even play the same game?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:21PM GenBanks said

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them be fightin' words


See you in TF2, don't even want to imagine playing as a demoman with dual analogue sticks instead of m/kb ;)
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:35PM Triblade101 said

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Dude, there ARE cross platform games...correct me if I'm wrong somebody but wasn't Shadowrun the first to offer cross platform play?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 10:06PM einhanderkiller said

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Universe at War is also cross-platform enabled.

They seem to pick the worst games to enable cross-platform play on...
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 2:57AM Haggard said

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UT3 had cross-play between PC and PS3 if i remember right.

Anyway, short version is that mouse and keyboard user > pad user
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:44AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, but Universe at War is fuckin' terrible.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 6:45AM (Unverified) said

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If UAW was terrible then RA3 is excrement with a capital S.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 9:21AM (Unverified) said

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There were several cross platform games (such as shadowrun) but they have stopped supporting it on most games due to problems balancing PC vs console.

(I will give you a hint...the PC people were winning)
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:17PM Keithustus said

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And with all of that effort and staffing necessary to make the updates and keep the system operating, Microsoft is to soon announce that they are considering 'monitizing' Games for Windows Live.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:18PM (Unverified) said

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"The free Games for Windows - LIVE service is an integral part of some of the most popular and highly anticipated games on any platform"

I resent the fact that I need to download the games for windows components to get these games to work on my computer. Might be more amenable to the idea if it weren't forced upon me.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:21PM Keithustus said

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You don't play any Valve games?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:38PM (Unverified) said

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I do, just not on the computer I installed Fallout 3 on.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 11:02PM Ruben said

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I hear you.

I always get pissed off when games include Physx installers. I should have the choice whether my game has physics calculations or not. /Sarcasm

Dude, its an integral part of the game. Its required, just like Physx and DirectX is. Stop bitching.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:21PM Keithustus said

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1. Does anyone else see the irony that they've had to redesign a PC gaming service to be more PC-friendly and less limited by console controls?

2. With all the emphasis on Fallout 3 in the announcement, will this make using fan-made mods more difficult?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:24PM NeoK 182 said

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This does not hurt the fan made mods at all. Over 200 mods are out for Fallout 3 already and none of them effect the game. They work the same as oblivion. Live is just there.

GTA IV will be affected by mods but only in the multiplayer part.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:23PM NeoK 182 said

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@dubbz: i look forward to kicking your console n00b ass one day.

@Matt Frank: It's built into the game when you install it. there is no extra component to download.

However, personally i want a stand alone client that works like Steam. lets me view my friends lists, achivements and everything else as well as list my GFW games and has the marketplace.

If MS does that i'll be happy. New design is great though much nicer.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:25PM Otimus said

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Do you still have to have a GFW Live enabled PC game to access the service on a PC?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:36PM Zertoss said

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Yeah.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:19PM Tiptup300 said

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Yeah, I still really don't like that. I'd rather have a dedicated marketplace application geared sorta like the Zune Marketplace app.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:29PM blash said

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GFW is still epic fail. When my internet works fine AND GFW will connect so that I can download my gamercard for the copy of Gears of War PC that I rightfully purchased, then we'll see.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:53PM NeoK 182 said

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Gears of War for the PC was made like shit. other games like halo 2 and fallout don't require you to even connect to LIVE just be signed in to load your save. additionally you can disable LIVE in fallout completely.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 10:45PM KarlW said

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If Microsoft is bringing the marketplace to the PC, it's only a matter of time before full games become available.

It's Microsoft's way of taking over Steam.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:52PM (Unverified) said

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Ok, where exactly is the download link for this? I looked all over the website and could not find a link to download?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:53PM NeoK 182 said

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Right now the update is only through a GFW Live game. Fallout 3, Gears of War, Halo 2, Quantum of Solace. and a few others.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 2:32AM Zak Canard said

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Direct link for the GFW Live v2.0 redistributable can be found here if you don't want to download from within a GFW enabled game:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4a7f4478-7a4e-4f89-a88c-319972839793&DisplayLang=en
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:56PM exaltedbladder said

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time to upgrade my pc agen...
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 8:57PM exaltedbladder said

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man! it is gna be expensive
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:40PM Dragod said

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Why, exactly, do you need to upgrade your PC?
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 10:03PM Tiptup300 said

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Expensive? You're doing it wrong.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 1:43AM (Unverified) said

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Trnslatd for MBO:

Dragod - Nov 12th 2008 - 9:40PM

Y xactly do u need 2 upgrade yur PC?


Tiptup300 - Nov 12th 2008 - 10:03PM

xpensive? Yur doing it wrng.


hop tat hlpz!
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:14PM oteriba said

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I'm trying to download this thing but I can't find it anywhere. Typical Microsoft, making things harder than it should be.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:20PM iofthestorm said

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Apparently you can only use it if you've got a GFW game, which sort of makes sense but means you can't just download it to look at it.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:28PM Dragod said

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I play a lot of Halo 2 Vista, and after seeing this I logged in and just took a look around. It's definitely an improvement, and it looks great and very unique. My hope is that NXE is just as speedy.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 9:36PM (Unverified) said

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i want left 4 dead on gfw
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 10:00PM Keithustus said

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Why? For XBL achievements, like Fallout does? Or something else? You're the first person I've ever seen who prefers GFWL over Steam, so I'd like to know why.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 10:04PM Tiptup300 said

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I really do love steam, but if they took all of what Xbox Live has and move all of it over to PC. I would definitely prefer GFW. And why doesn't GFW have a system like steam where it works on nearly all games?
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 8:12AM (Unverified) said

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because i want to play my friends who have 360s
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 11:12PM Rax Dakkar said

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GFW just reminds me of GFW Radio, which will never be the same. Ah well, this still won't make a dent in Steam, and with World of Warcraft (and soon Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3) making Battle.net hugely important, their just isn't room. Stardock's Impulse isn't that bad either and is DRM free and available NOW.
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Posted: Nov 12th 2008 11:38PM WiNGSPANTT from TopTierTacticsco said

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If ANYONE can answer this I'll be grateful.

WHERE THE HELL DO YOU DOWNLOAD THE GFW client???

I am a master Googler and I do not get: HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY RUN GFWLive?!?!?

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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 12:05AM shattercross said

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It's the Guitar Hero drumset all over again...

YES, THERE IS A PEDAL

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GFW LIVE ENABLED GAME TO ACCESS THE CLIENT.
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