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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:06PM (Unverified) said

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What the hell did you just say?
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:15PM Author X said

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You can also make a voice chat with your friends instead of using the game channel, and you can do it in ANY Xbox 360 game (you can chat with friends playing Halo 3 while you're in Viva Pinata for all they care).

Excluding a choice that you don't want doesn't make it a better service.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 2:44PM (Unverified) said

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It's clearly to stop people selling them after finding out how rubbish they are.

Posted: Nov 14th 2008 5:25AM (Unverified) said

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Nintendo might be in the process of manufacturing electrical appliances that don't need to be replaced. In the next five years you may be buying a television that doesn't break a, what if at some point soon you'll be buying a microphone that you won't NEED to be replaced for a hundred years you certainly wouldn't need the receipt. Shit. Here in the good old U.S. of A. we've had a problem with recession. Some people myself included seem to think it has something to do with consumer confidence.
Microsoft is a company that I've heard of who has had alot of trouble because of negative consumer confidence because they sold a person something they knew was broken or would break but I don't think it's cost them just millions (billions?) I think it just might have cost them everything. I really believe that a consumers' trust and confidence is a thing that after you lose it,even if it's only 1 per cent you never one hundred per cent get back sure you might get five per cent back you may even get ninety nine per cent back but way down deep where it really matters never a 100 per cent back.I just don't think it's in us as a race of people. What electronical manufacturer could ever get say 85 per cent total consumer trust?In a hundred years 90 percent in 1000 years 99 per cent in a million years. One hundred per cent. I'm honestly truly deeply scared not because Nintendo has never sold me an electronic product that broke but Nintendo has never sold me an electronic product that THEY knew would break thereby giving me my 1 per cent consumer dissatisfaction.
The little tiny piece of twine on the carpet that I wished to God in Heaven I never saw. A little tiny piece of twine... Unless time you me or anybody else on this beautiful little planet of ours can prove... Nintendo is the only electronic manufacturer in existance that will be able to sell a spaceship w/ one hundred per cent consumer confidence. Spaceships that don't break.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 2:52PM (Unverified) said

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And people are complaining here WHY?

Half of you whiners claim that your Wii is collecting dust and sitting unplayed. Having a dedicated Chat channel isn't about to change that... assuming you buy Wii Speak at all (which would be pretty stupid since you don't actively game on the system).

The other half probably do game on your Wii... which means you (like myself) probably want voice chat in your online multiplayer titles. Great! So how does a stand-alone chat channel help with that again? It doesn't? Oh right.

Using a pack-in code to give original buyers a small, but mostly useless, perk isn't a bad a idea. It won't hurt anyone who wants to chat while gaming. So suck it up and stop bitching.

Geez... it's like the forums are filled with 8-year old fanboys sometimes.

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:13PM Dirty said

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I'm 9
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 4:01PM Da Largest said

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Logic? How do I deal with this?

*consults Hivemindstiq*

I could downvote it, or I could spew hatred at the poster... acknowledge that he has a point? Pfft fat chance, I'm too hardcore to do something like that
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 4:30PM Vidikron said

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"Using a pack-in code to give original buyers a small, but mostly useless, perk isn't a bad a idea. It won't hurt anyone who wants to chat while gaming. So suck it up and stop bitching."


If I'm reading the article correctly the main problem is that currently the Wii Speak channel is ONLY available with the codes. So, for example, say someone buys this and then later sells their Wii. Before selling their Wii they will likely wipe the storage (if they're smart). But after doing this the new owner will be unable to use the WiiSpeak. They'll have to go out and buy a new one just to get a new code for the channel.

All Nintendo really has to do to rectify this is either just offer the channel for free (which they really should be doing) or offer it for a small fee like the browser. The complaints against the current set-up are perfectly valid.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 6:32PM (Unverified) said

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@Vidikron:
"...the new owner will be unable to use the WiiSpeak."

Nope, you missed it.

You don't *need* the Wii Speak Channel to use the microphone - it is just one option in case you want to chat with your Wii friends while NOT playing games. It doesn't affect how the hardware works, and isn't mandatory. (Also, note that you can't use that channel to chat and play games at the same time.)

Most people who want Wii Speak want it for in-game chat... which is much better than using Wii Speak Channel to turn your Wii into a glorified speakerphone anyway. For those people, a used (or supported third-party) microphone would do just fine.

People need to take a deep breath and calm down. All downloadable software is locked to your console with Nintendo, so this is nothing new. I do find it odd that they won't sell the software via the Wii Shop Channel, but if Nintendo thinks that their microphone needs added value from a near-useless chat channel to sell, so be it.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:00PM (Unverified) said

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Example. You know how everybody passes around the phone during Christmas Dinner. Uncle Teddie callin' from Texas. Oh I want too talk to him next then the twins... Nope. Everybody sit down I'll just turn on the Wii... A full family of 150 people spead out all across the globe would be able to wow. It would

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:05PM baby sea tuna said

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...be a noisy clusterfuck of epic proportions. You are correct.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:14PM (Unverified) said

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...actually be a reason to turn on the Wii?
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:19PM Mr Khan said

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...be something that the haters would shit on regardless?

Oh, too late.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:20PM Author X said

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It's called speakerphone. And I doubt WiiSpeak in a room full of 12 people is going to be any more useful than a speakerphone in that room. It will be just as hard to tell who's talking to who, or pick up any meaningful conversation.

Just pass the damn phone around, and have everyone in the room shout "Hi!" together loud enough to hear on the other end, just like every year.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:21PM (Unverified) said

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FUCK YAS, MOAR CODES!

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:45PM (Unverified) said

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"Hardcore" gamers bitching about a casual feature like Wii Speak Channel

??

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:47PM Mr Khan said

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shh.

logic isn't welcome here
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 4:34PM Vidikron said

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Except voice chat is hardly a "casual" feature. I chat with friends outside actual games on my 360 all the time.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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It is pretty casual if you purchase a headset for gaming and intend to use it for something that isn't gaming-related at all.

It's about as unrelated to gaming as getting a Wii and buying Wii Fit and Wii Sports, the very titles these "hardcore" fuckers bitch about Nintendo for making.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 6:52AM (Unverified) said

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People are upset because the ability to speak was a function desired by core gamers to communicate in-game.

Then Nintendo release the thing and aim it straight at the casual crowd, completely forgetting (it seems) the core gamers, whose cries it was that spawned it's creation.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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"People are upset because the ability to speak was a function desired by core gamers to communicate in-game."
Wii Speak Channel =/= Animal Crossing, The Conduit, w/e

Wii Speak Channel is a separate thing from games that would support voice chat
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 5:22PM (Unverified) said

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"Then Nintendo release the thing and aim it straight at the casual crowd, completely forgetting (it seems) the core gamers"
By what, releasing a speakerphone for games?

Could you elaborate more on what you're trying to convey here, or are you presenting a case for more console retardation?
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:47PM ThornedVenom said

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Can't believe I used to be a Wii believer.

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 3:56PM (Unverified) said

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It's ok I don't think anyone saw what they were going to become, so no one can really blame anyone for falling into the trap and waking up to reality. At least you figured it out though, there's still some that just don't get it.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 4:32PM Mr Khan said

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The "trap" is the FUD that's been rolling around since E3. The myth of abandonment that so many have fallen for.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 6:58PM jake11 said

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bewiiver
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 4:21PM jhowlett said

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i'd have some input about this if i ever took the wii online, but couldn't get one of those adapters for wired internet. after i had fun with mario strikers i gave up for the time being

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 4:34PM WiNGSPANTT from TopTierTacticsco said

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Next thing you know, your Wii Remotes will be biometrically tied to your genes. If you ever sell it to someone else, it will overwrite their RNA and turn them into a clone of you.

Actually, pretty awesome.

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 5:52PM (Unverified) said

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Metal Gear? D=
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 5:01PM Otimus said

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Man, I really wish Joystiq would take Reggie to task on this. But I know they won't. Even if they did, they'd let him give a stock response, and not respond at all. Buncha news cowards.

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 5:15PM Burritoclock said

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Bloggers are not equal to journalists.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 6:44PM Otimus said

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Well, Joystiq is going to be asking questions to Reggie soon.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 6:09PM Bones3D said

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This is good reason to boycott this accessory. I can understand the need to tie a purchased download to a particular system to curb sharing with other user, but this is ridiculous. If the software comes as a supplement for actual hardware, it should be able to migrate with the device in question.

It's not as though the software is worth anything to anyone without a WiiSpeak peripheral.

So what happens if your Wii dies and has to be replaced? Do you lose this function of your WiiSpeak accessory forever due to conditions outside of your control?

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 6:17PM Bones3D said

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Just a side-note...

What would you do if, after you initially paired your Wii Remote with your Wii, you found out you could never pair it to another Wii console ever again? Meaning, if you ever damage your Wii, you'd have to trash every Wii Remote you own with the console.

I know I'd be pretty soured on ever buying another Nintendo product again after an experience like that.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 8:10PM (Unverified) said

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Here is a better reason to boycott this: Nintendo trying to sell you 20th Century tech at inflated prices in the 21st Century. Epic fail.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2008 8:35PM (Unverified) said

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test sheet delivered.

Posted: Nov 13th 2008 11:50PM NobodyMan said

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I'm surprised that nobody has recognized this for what it is: another attempt by publishers and console manufacturers to turn the screws on the used game/hardware market.

Retailers like Gamestop are going to be royally pissed off. In fact, I think they we have yet to see the other shoe drop: how will Gamestop respond? I wouldn't be surprised if they refused to carry Wii Speak

Posted: Nov 14th 2008 11:04AM (Unverified) said

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I think I just voiped deep space travel and everyone at NOA, NOJ and Japan Worldwide knows that Im right.I think I just voiped unbreakable spaceships also what a day. Joystiq thank you for giving me the ability to declare this I dont want money or rights I just want to see people live together in harmony and peace Anthony J DiGeronimo, AJBACK2FRAG I for sure have discovered that Nintendo is Working on electronic products that could last indefinately. I figure half the people on this beautiful green lovely planet will believe me I figure half wont either way but NINTENDO does in fact know the truth It is my belief that SHIGERU himself will have to admit Im right.I havent invented anything but because I used sane judgement in exploring extremely complex scenarios I think I have discovered something extremely RARE indeed thanks chums see you on TV.

Posted: Jan 2nd 2009 10:12AM (Unverified) said

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It's all about money to them. They make new things, with a feature or two, just for money. All they think about is MONEY. MONEY. That's right, MONEY. That's why they try to stop The Homebrew Channel, but they never succeed. Why do they try? MONEY! They want people to try THEIR games, and not custom, non-licenced games. Why? MONEY! They don't want you to try a non-licenced game. Why do they licence games? M-O-N-E-Y. MONEY! All they care about is... What do you think?

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