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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 9:52PM (Unverified) said

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It's done!
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 9:58PM Mr Khan said

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Color!

So refreshing
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:13PM (Unverified) said

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You are so beautiful
To me
You are so beautiful
To me
Can't you see
You're everything I hoped for
You're everything I need
You are so beautiful
To me
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 11:09PM Supermanisdead said

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Indeed! Add to the fact that it's stunning artwork too!
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 2:18AM dr steve brule said

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i wish i had a joystiq singing buddy...kicks the dirt.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 8:37AM GenBanks said

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+1 to that
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:00PM KeenCommander said

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That is one of the most visually stunning games I've ever seen. Further proof that games do not need to have photorealistic graphics.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:18PM Foetoid said

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Cel Shading will do that. Tales of Symphonia is one of the best RPGs of time IMO and the Cel Shading adds to the character, just as it does in Wind Waker. Its about time someone made a serious game with cel shading like this, it always has looked amazing.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:53PM Michelobius said

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Yeah, Okami was similarly gorgeous and cel-shaded, and even though it was on the PS2, I don't think it could have looked any better with more modern graphics technology.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:59PM theenglishman said

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Not necessarily. When I look out my window the world isn't all brown and grey. What passes for "photorealism" in games today is watching games through a coffee filter, but TRUE photorealism would add, you know, colour.

Also, I do agree that this game looks stunning.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 11:42PM Mr Khan said

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You could argue that the grey and brown phenomenon is due to the fact that many photorealistic games happen to be set in either city or post-apocalyptic environments, but you seem to see it in games that occur in the real world. Call of Duty seems to have this problem

Far Cry 2, interestingly, lacks this problem.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 1:45AM (Unverified) said

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Whoa whoa whoa, I love cel-shading too, but ToS is hardly a good example of it. I like playing cel-shaded games, but not if they're filtered so that it plays as though someone poured a jar of Vaseline on my eyes.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 3:02AM (Unverified) said

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I don't even consider this Cel Shading.. the detail of everything is too far for cel shading, but different from realism..


I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is a new form of graphical art..

Yup..

Painting Style. (Which is actually what Ubisoft considers it as well)
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 7:20AM Foetoid said

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Come on Kickassness, how can you even justify that. I just fired up Tales of Symphonia for my 4th playthrough the other day and it looks amazing on my new 47" 1080p LCD. It doesn't seem to be overly filtered or anything. It's obviously not HD and as crisp as this, but still looks amazing. It's not the best RPG of all time for no reason (IMO).
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 9:10AM Bowser Rogozhin said

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"47" 1080p LCD"

Random numbers won't make your penis any bigger. And your taste in games is appalling; Tales the greatest RPG of all time? Have we all forgotten Jade Cocoon so easily.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 9:55AM SheppyReturns said

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Actually, this is VERY minal on the celshading which is good. How cell shading is accomplished is there are two copies of the model in question. One slightly (or in the case of early shitty looking celshading ala Cel Damage or Tales, much) larger than the original version. What is done then is the larger version is inverted so that the backfaces do not show and then the model is textured black (or softer shades like in Valkaria Chronicals). What this does is you can see the model underneath unhindered but in areas where the model ends but the larger version still goes on, you see black outlines. That is cel shading and that's the limit of it's influence in this game. Without the strong art design on the model underneath, it wouldn't look good at all.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 10:12AM (Unverified) said

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"Have we all forgotten Jade Cocoon so easily."

Vagrant Story >>> that noise
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 10:23AM (Unverified) said

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Foe, ToS looks blurry as all hell. I have a decent sized HDTV too as well as a computer monitor I use for gaming, and the game looks pretty lame on both. When it comes to cel shading, the game doesn't compare to games that have done the whole minimalist style well, like Wind Waker, Sunshine, etc.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 1:10PM Haggard said

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@Mr Khan - FC2 seemed very brown to me. Not all the time, but when it was brown that was literally all there was on the screen.

Anyway, I'd say TF2 is good example of how this works. By using cartoony or painted looking visuals, a game can look excellent without placing too much demand on the console or PC it's running on.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:07PM (Unverified) said

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My wallet wants this game to suck, I can't keep affording this shit. Thats what is going to cause the next gaming collapse, too many good games=broke ass gamers....godamnit
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 12:39AM (Unverified) said

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Give me back those words right now! I can't believe you just walked up and took them right out of my fucking mouth!
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 12:57AM (Unverified) said

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I already told my friends I had to delay buying L4D until december. And now this shit. God.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 2:07AM SpydaKat said

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I know!! Developers, stop this madness, there are more years to come you know.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 8:40AM GenBanks said

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I wish they took half the games that are coming out now and released them about 6 months ago in May/June when I was so desperate for new games to play.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:25PM (Unverified) said

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I cannot wait for this game. It seems like the only games I can manage to keep my interest and actually finish are the PoP games and the Castlevania games for the DS. I end up playing everything else for about an hour and never touch them again.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 11:24PM flameofdoom666 said

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Castlevania is just that amazing!
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:25PM Zorink said

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Sounds awesome, but does the Prince still have terrible voice acting?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 4:15AM (Unverified) said

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What do you mean terrible voice acting? The Prince is voiced by Nathen Drake (North Nolen) this time around. Suits this new Prince if you ask me. But this is just me.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 7:05AM Emophia said

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It's the PRINCE of PERSIA

PERSIA

PERSIA

He sound freaking American.

Since when does american = persian?

Bring back the Sands of Time VA for the prince, he was amazing.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 10:37AM (Unverified) said

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When did a prissy British accent= a Persian Accent?

I know we all want our Prince to sound like Sayeed from LOST, but this'll just be like watching Disney's Aladdin...which can be a good thing or bad. But I don't mind a Nathan Drake voice actor.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 12:01PM radda said

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He only had a terrible voice in Warrior Within, when they changed his actor.

For SoT and TT it was Yuri Lowenthal, and (contrary to the rest of his career), he was brilliant.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:25PM (Unverified) said

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Question about the combat:
Is it a simplified system? I saw one of the influences was DMC. Is it combat with or without the 'help' on? Trying to guage how much the game rewards skill or if you can look awesome button mashing :D
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Posted: Nov 17th 2008 6:11PM Deone said

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Albinogoldfish:
No kidding. Add PoP to list of acronyms I have to buy and can't afford. L4D, GoW2 CoD:WaW, LBP,and Wii:Fit.
Oops, can I get a joystiq strike on that last one?
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 10:56PM Jacksons said

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I'm going to need to pick this one up.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 11:05PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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I don't say this often about games, but PoP looks fucking gorgeous.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2008 11:07PM Supermanisdead said

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Finally, a good ol' precision platforming action game! And it's freakin gorgeous!

MUST BUY IT.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 1:02AM (Unverified) said

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graphics aren't everything. to me, that's the main problem with the videogame industry today. it only seems to about the presentation of the game an nothing else. everything else gets put to the side. (visuals! eye candy!)

i personally think this game is going to suck big time. just like every other so called big budgeted major triple(a) next-gen game that was released this year. all of those games were awful! each an every one. not one of them lived up to the hype. none! well, maybe one of them did. try an guess which one.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 2:03AM WiredKnight said

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I personally think this post sucks big time.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 3:22AM (Unverified) said

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I'm guessing GTA4, Fable 2, Gears 2, Dead Space, Far Cry 2, Saints Row 2, LBP and Fallout 3, because all of those lived up to the hype to me.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 9:58AM SheppyReturns said

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You know, when game systems didn't have graphics they were still trying to push graphics. Your visual window into this world is everybit as important as all the other elements.

It's not all about the graphics but without the graphics trying to be as good as they can, games would suck.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 11:30AM (Unverified) said

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"not one of them lived up to the hype. none! well, maybe one of them did. try an guess which one"


Hmmm hang on I have to think like an idiot to figure this one out....ok I got it. Judging from the stuff in your post I have to say Wii Music? There's no other option to me, because it's clear your taste in games is sickening if you think there hasn't been any good games this year.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 1:12PM Haggard said

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I agree with some of what you've had to say, but a lot of people are saying the gameplay is just right in this one.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 5:02PM (Unverified) said

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So, basically, you didn't read the post where the gameplay was constantly being praised?

Moron
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 5:58PM (Unverified) said

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Tmac needs to think like an idiot, huh? Did you get your job back at McDonalds?
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Posted: Nov 16th 2008 10:39AM philmcfail said

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@ WRE

Take out GTAIV from that list and you're fine.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 1:22AM jhoff80 said

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After playing Mirror's Edge, I don't know about this game. Mirror's Edge has similar type of platforming yet because of the first person view it gives a real rush that I don't ever remember from the PoP games, as good as Sands of Time was.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 2:19AM dr steve brule said

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please be as good as sands of time
please be as good as sands of time
please be as good as sands of time...
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 2:58AM (Unverified) said

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When I was at Gamestop:

Cashier:
"Any other games you would like to reserve?"

Me:
"Oh crap that new Prince of Persia comes out soon doesn't it? You think it's going to be good?"

Cashier:
*Closes his eyes and nods silently*

Me:
"AH GOD FINE *slaps a five down on the table*.. Why do games have to be good these days? My wallet is crying to me with joy and at the same time the feeling of mass money starvation."

I cant wait for this game..
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 4:22PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Take that $5.00 and get yourself a haircut ... yikes
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Posted: Nov 15th 2008 4:28PM (Unverified) said

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Pic's old.. and my hair wasn't that long in it =
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