Tabula Rasa shutting down on Feb. 28

Yes

Funny, I had Queen's "Another one bites the dust" run through my head.

I... this makes no sense.

@JCollum

IRONY FAIL

@JCollum

IRONY FAIL

@ihateemo

Thank you for that.

If the comment above wasn't sarcasam then you should know that Namco is also closin hellgate on feb

It was sarcasm, and I knew that. I think you can even play HL for free until it shuts down.

I'm pretty sure NCsoft still does well with their non-western stuff and Guild Wars...

You know City of Villains and Heroes are both the same game now?

I bought the game on launch day, collector edition and all, and then a second copy for my husband so we could play together...it was honestly a solid game that got a bad rap at first. But then they tried to patch it all to hell to make it appeal to everyone and THAT was when I felt that I might have wasted my money. I got a good six months out of it, and that's more than a lot of other games that I have paid just as much for.

Agreed.

*coughs brushing snow off cloak found in Northrend*
sniff*
Shame

and it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with quality.

Infact, most people simply trying to be WoW (which in itself is fairly damned outdated, and was so in 2004) is stifling MMO evolution.


You simply can't beat the name recognition, the roots, the way it's simply grounded itself into society.

Worst yet are the people who act like WoW is the be all end all solution to everyone's MMO wants. No. You're just easily pleased, like the name, or you simply aren't willing to try anything else ever. Or all your friends play WoW.

Odd then that games like EVE are still running strong after what... 5 or 6 years now?

Eve blows; it's only for people who don't like WOW because of the "fun". I played Eve for 8 months and I shudder when I think about going back.

Sorry, not everyone likes fantasy. While you may love swords, sorcery, elves and dwarves, it does nothing for me.

As long as people like me exist, there will be markets for MMO's other than WoW.

Well I think you win the award for moronic generalisation.

Just because it is the most popular game in it's genre does not make it the apex of it. The fact that LOTRO is releasing an expansion pack pretty much shows how much you know, not to mention the staying power of other MMOs and WARs addition to the genre. If you're going to make statements like that then you may as well start celebrating the joys of Runescape.

@JCollum: I doubt you would've played EVE for 8 months if you considered it a crap game that entire time.

I started playing EVE at the beginning of August, and the game stays successful as it is because it caters to its hardcore customers. 250,000 active subscribers is no easy thing to do, let alone have an increasing population which, other than WoW, is just not seen in the MMO market. Being in the same server as everybody else, having real, hard consequences for your actions both on yourself and on other people in the game, free expansions twice a year... EVE is the king of MMO's.

To paraphrase a guy on the EVE forums a while ago, if you want a MMO to hold your hand while you enjoy the amusement park rides, play WoW. If you want a MMO that truly lives up to the premise of the genre, leaves the players to their own devices so that they can decide how to have fun in the game world and play the way they want to play, then play EVE.

I'm a girl and I've never played a night elf or a healer. :P I also got the collector's edition of Tabula Rasa for a Christmas present last year and was very sad when I saw the reality of what looked like a totally badass game. In my case, I thought it took itself too seriously and came off as being corny and cheesy because it couldn't laugh at itself, and at the time, even the lowest graphic setting made it completely impossible to play on our best computer.

Yes, I'm one of those people (girls) who plays WoW and never played an MMO before it. And yes, I like that WoW is fun. But if a new MMO could have the same sort of gameplay (a UI that isn't hideous, clear objectives, forgiving game mechanics), but had a serious tone, took place in space, and had modern-day graphics (that hopefully I could run), I would be on board.

I hope that Star Wars MMO ends up being good, because I'd much rather play in a sci-fi world than a fantasy one. But I played a Galaxies trial (after it got nerfed), and I even got into the beta for the LOTR MMO, and I didn't like either of them. Although, the LOTR MMO was WAY better than Galaxies. It just felt unresponsive.

And actually, my biggest complaint about Galaxies was simply the way you move your character around. It was awkward and felt unnatural (your mouse is your camera; point the way you want to go and walk that way).

So it's just simple nitpicks keeping me playing WoW. And there are plenty of things I don't like about WoW, but for the most part it's enjoyable to play, so I stick with it. It's also *fun*, which a lot of MMOs don't seem to be.

I enjoyed playing it until I discovered that all the quests were the types I hate: collect eight entrails, take this letter to someone for me, and kill Grand Master Flash. In other words, about a day. Tabula Rasa was previewed as having tons of instances with Diablo-like quests, but somewhere on the road to release they took a turn down Samey-town Road.

Planetside's failures scared everybody off. Balancing pseudo-realtime combat when the average client lag is +100ms is hard enough.

Not saying Planetside was bad. It could be fun. But having true, full-time combat in an MMO is a pain in the ass to design and implement.

I don't see how it should be much different than any coop or large scale mutuplayer game really

In the words of Bill Murray: "I love this plan! I'm excited to be a part of it!"

... I see what you did there.