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Posted: Nov 24th 2008 2:12PM (Unverified) said

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As someone above said, this is not an announcement, its a leak. Pay attention in class. I think that inFamous could do well if they release it inconjunction with the price cut. That, and it looks and sounds like it could be good.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2008 3:33PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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@Itsacat,justacat

Very strange because your screen handle said Tmacairjordan... (whatever it is) about 10 minutes ago. Are you being a pretender?
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Posted: Nov 24th 2008 2:47PM (Unverified) said

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Good.. the PS3 def. needs this.

Problem is, is that I see the 360's price dropping as well due to that Valhalla motherboard they're supposedly making.

Either way, competition is good.

Next year, I expect the PS3 to be $450 for the best one, as it is REALLY hard on them to drop the price of the PS3, and $300-350 for the best 360.

Posted: Nov 24th 2008 3:31PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Wow Arnon your all about the FUD ...

"Problem is, is that I see the 360's price dropping as well due to that Valhalla motherboard they're supposedly making."

You can guess and speculate but the big bosses seem comfortable saying it won't happen for many years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/03/AR2008110301191.html?nav=rss_technology/personaltech

"Next year, I expect the PS3 to be $450 for the best one, as it is REALLY hard on them to drop the price of the PS3, and $300-350 for the best 360."

There is no "best one" in terms of PS3 SKUs. They are all the same now. The difference is a bundled game and bigger HDD. The PS3 is already $399.99 and I could see it dropping down to $299.99 or at least $329.99. There is no rotating SKUs anymore like there used to be. It's simply bundle packs and HDD capacity. I would go with the cheaper PS3 and upgrade the HDD myself if necessary. Hell, I picked up a 250 GB 2.5' HDD for $75.00 at Office Depot. While the PS3 bundle is good in comparison to the other SKU w/o a bundle it's still a better deal to buy and install the HDD yourself because you get extra capacity.

Rant -

Meanwhile the cost to upgrade your 360's HDD is still to high.

120 Gb 360 HDD MSRP is $150
60 Gb 360 HDD + starter pack MSRP is $100 (more than I paid for a 250 Gb HDD!)

I don't have a problem with MS selling proprietary HDDs, Wi-Fi adapters ($100) & wireless headsets ($60) but they need to at least make them affordable. The wireless headset is really not that bad of a price for a headset but the problem is you can only use it with your 360. They should drop the price on all those periphials by at least $25 dollars and in the case of the Wi-Fi adapter more like $35 total.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2008 5:48PM sk8monroe81 said

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if the ps3 price drops below the 360 price, I would expect another 360 price cut next year. no matter what anybody at MS has said. things change.

MS knows that keeping the price down will keep sales up. If sony sees higher sales after a price drop it would only be natural for MS to counter with a price drop.

(remember the 360 costs much less to manufacture and sell than the ps3, there is more room to lower the price.)

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Posted: Nov 24th 2008 9:54PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Right it doesn't matter what the executives (the guys in charge) say. All that matters is what an internet troll wants to happen. They are still in the business to make money. What will they do drop the price down to $150 or $100? Get real man. The best they can do going forward is game bundles. $199 is as low as it's going until they release the next console.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 12:22AM (Unverified) said

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Sackolantern I'm pretty sure you are the most gullible guy I've ever seen.


Hello? It's Microsoft. When have they ever NOT denied leaked info let alone speculation?


Sorry, but you fail.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 12:23AM (Unverified) said

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You also overreact and cry too much about the simplest things rofl..


Quit crying.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 12:27AM (Unverified) said

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NOT TO MENTION I'm starting to worry about your mentality..


You, yourself, just said for everyone in the world, that the 360 is more pricey than the PS3. Yet, I don't need half the crap you mention.

Off of this point:

"Right it doesn't matter what the executives (the guys in charge) say. All that matters is what an internet troll wants to happen. They are still in the business to make money. What will they do drop the price down to $150 or $100? Get real man. The best they can do going forward is game bundles. $199 is as low as it's going until they release the next console."

He's a troll because he disagrees with you? Not to mention how you contradict yourself by crying and bitching about how anyone says anything negative towards the PS3 and you try and tell everyone you're NOT a fanboy/troll by saying you own both?

F off you twat.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 4:51AM sk8monroe81 said

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umm.. johnny the 360's are still $ 300 - $ 400.
it is only the arcade model that is $ 200.

of course MS can drop the price of the 360 even lower in the future as production costs lower (production costs of consoles have always gone down over time of production)

the 360 costs much less to produce than the ps3 and will always costs less to consumers to purchase out of the box.

how much did ps2 consoles cost at launch?
how much do they cost now?

arnon-
johnny is a very weird person.
cant admit what he is and wants to call everyone else what he is.

hes an idiot. thinks you need a wireless adapted to play online games. complains about $ 5 per month for xbox live but then explains that he owns 3 homes. thinks you need to buy the xbox wireless adapted to play wireless on 360.
he only talks about the accessories that the 360 doesnt have, he forgets the ps3 doesnt include HDMI cable, HD componet cables, any headset, no ethernet cable in 40gb and too short in 80gb,( its funny how he lists unnecessary accessories the 360 doesnt have that he must have, while the ps3 clearly doesnt come with needed accessories.

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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 3:35PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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@Arnon
"Hello? It's Microsoft. When have they ever NOT denied leaked info let alone speculation?"

The head of the 360 division in the Uk stated it. How is that rumor or speculation? If they drop the price then they drop the price but I'm just going off what the execustive said instead of speculation.

"You, yourself, just said for everyone in the world, that the 360 is more pricey than the PS3. Yet, I don't need half the crap you mention."

What I actually said was depending on the needs of the end user it could end up being more or less expensive based off perphials. Go re-read it again so you know what your talking about.

"He's a troll because he disagrees with you?"

Actually I was calling you the troll because you were the one speculating on a price drop based on information you pulled out of your ass (in a ps3 thread no less). I posted a link to an article where the head of the 360 division in the UK was quoted as saying there wouldn't be a price drop for many years.

Your way to sensitive about a piece of plastic with a corporate logo attached to it. Maybe I am a bit anal about facts and setting your FUD straight but that hardly makes me a troll or a crybaby. Your the one always on here bashing the PS3 and apologizing for everything MS does.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 4:15PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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@matt/sk8 whatever you change your name to ...

Where to begin with your FUD

"of course MS can drop the price of the 360 even lower in the future as production costs lower (production costs of consoles have always gone down over time of production)"

I simply posted an article quoting the head of the 360 division in the UK where he stated there would not be a price drop for many year to come. If you want to speculate thats fine but all i did was post a fact.

"how much did ps2 consoles cost at launch?
how much do they cost now?"

$299 at launch and you can get a solo slim PS2 for $129 or a 2 game bundle for around $150.

"johnny is a very weird person.
cant admit what he is and wants to call everyone else what he is."

I just call them like I see them. You and Arnon love to troll every PS3 thread. Go ahead and give me some examples of when I was trolling (if you even know what it means). I mean this from the guy that doesn't know what a forum was. You probably believe that trolling is being negative.

"hes an idiot. thinks you need a wireless adapted to play online games."

More FUD from little Matthew. I never said it was needed at all. You know that though. You just want to talk out of your ass like always. All I said was that I needed a wireless adapter for my 360. That was pretty much it. The basic point (which went over your head) was that some people may or may not need these extra periphials.

"complains about $ 5 per month for xbox live but then explains that he owns 3 homes."

More FUD from sk8r the hater. Never once said I own 3 beach houses (exxagerate much?). I said I had bought and sold two investment properties and my current primary residence is on the beach. If you want to twist it around you just make yourself look stupid. I never complained about paying for Live on an annual basis. In fact, I simply said I didn't think it was worth it based on principal. Again, you fail like always. You just love to try and twist everything around over a piece of plastic. Sad.

"thinks you need to buy the xbox wireless adapted to play wireless on 360."

Second time you said wireless adapted but call me an idiot. You can't even form sentences let alone spell correctly.

"he only talks about the accessories that the 360 doesnt have, he forgets the ps3 doesnt include HDMI cable, HD componet cables, any headset, no ethernet cable in 40gb and too short in 80gb,( its funny how he lists unnecessary accessories the 360 doesnt have that he must have, while the ps3 clearly doesnt come with needed accessories."

Again you really show your stupidity. I said that the benefit of the PS3 is that it's an open platform. I never said you didn't need extra periphials. I went out my way to explain that some people might need those things on the PS3 as well. The accessories are only unecessary if you don't need them. In fact, all I did was list the ones I had needed with the 360. if you want to turn it into a big temper tantrum then go right ahead you bug baby.

One last thing Matthew -

You sure act like a big internet tough guy and go out of your way to belittle me at every step of the way. Making back handed compliments, lying and insinuating some very disrespectful things that go beyond harmless banter on an internet forum.

Guess what Matt - Your an open book buddy. In about 30 minutes of google-ing I found out where you work, where you live, how old you are (you give it in your handle dumbass), your personal phone number, e-mail, work number and that you don't like strawberry candy! Luckily for you I'm not the type of person to take advantage of someone so naive to put their life out there for anyone to take. In fact, I was once a victim of identity theft so I know how bad it hurts and how bad it sucks.

So your probably thinking ... why would I say that? it's not as a threat or to try and scare you. The reason I'm telling you all this is because one day you might come across the wrong person talking all that personal shit and they may not be the type of person I am. If you want to continue to harass people and act like an Internet tough guy eventually you will end up getting burned. This is a gaming forum
so I'm asking you nicely this time to stop it with the below the belt personal attacks. If you want to call me a troll or a fanboy I have no problems but you need to stop it with the other shit. We can both play that game you know.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 4:31PM (Unverified) said

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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about..


1. This is not a PS3 thread, this is a public thread, hence why it's on Joystiq. I'm not posting in PS3fanboy, and if you find it needs to be there, then post there.

2. I wasn't pulling ANYTHING out of my ass. How about going on the net and looking up some info. They are currently working on a motherboard called Valhalla which has the potential to drastically reduce the price of the 360 and could possibly be used in the Next Xbox. The Valhalla motherboard combines the CPU and the GPU into one superchip at a 65nm process which would also bring to the fact that it would require a smaller heatsink, and would also come to the conclusion that it would have a lot more room to breathe and also cost a lot less to manufacture.

3. Again, I don't need half of the crap you mention to justify that the 360 is more expensive than the PS3. The reason the things you mention are add-on's is because they're just that, ADD-ONS. It's personal preference.

4. And instead of telling him he's stupid and that he cannot form correct sentences, how about you actually come up with a logical response related towards the subject at hand?

5. You're still crying over a PS3. All I said was, competition was good for the consoles, and you took it like I hit your mother. So instead of crying over the internet, go play a video game.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 4:39PM (Unverified) said

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You also don't realize, that they specifically state there isn't a NEED for a price drop right now, that doesn't mean they cant DO it.

"Stephen McGill says the Xbox 360 is a terrific deal already."

They're not saying they CANT do it, they're saying there's no REASON to do it. They could easily lower the price when the new motherboard comes out.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2008 7:26PM GoonieGooGoo said

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Who is the brainiac at SONY who has decided that doing a pricedrop AFTER Xmas & the holiday season is a good way to increase market share?

Posted: Nov 24th 2008 7:47PM sk8monroe81 said

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u have a very good point.
MS has worked up some market buzz going into the holiday season with their price drops..

sony dropped the price of the ps3 earlier this year when hordes of people were not waiting to buy expensive gifts for the holidays.

the holiday rush season is probably the best time to introduce a price reduction on any consumer good product.

because no matter how much money we have, we find ways to buy presents around the holidays for our loved ones.

but heck a few days ago sony people were saying if we released LBP at another time of year it would have sold better"

they just aren't making good business decisions and are more playing catch up to the competition.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2008 9:55PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Let's not forget that people also get money and gift cards for christmas.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 4:52AM sk8monroe81 said

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which ends up going to games and things we want.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 12:45PM GoonieGooGoo said

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The gift card argument would work...however they are saying this price drop won't occur until MARCH....

No one waits til march to spend their Xmas money
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Posted: Nov 25th 2008 4:20PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Yeah they need to drop the price in January or before KZ2 drops. That would be teh ideal time. They at least need to announce it a little ahead of time.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2008 11:10PM (Unverified) said

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If it's true, it's awfully foolish of them to be talking about this, even at a semi-private venue, before the holiday season. Rumors like that floating around aren't going to help their short-term sales any.

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