Gears 2's reign short lived, Halo 3 tops Xbox Live list

What about the fact that much more people have Halo 3 than Gears 2.

What makes me mad about gears online is 1, the look sensitivity glitch that happens to me multiple times every game and 2, my buddies cant play with me on Llive using a guest account. wth is up with that? Even Gears 1 had allowed that...

For gears of war 2, they need to fix the shotgun, chainsaw, and lag and then you will see it rise agian. I loved playing Gears of war mutiplayer because the shotgun didnt lag and the host player really didnt piss me of because i would play with good teammates but with GOW2 i get so pissed off when i play onlline that i just stop playing.

How do u fucckk up GOW2 so much!?!?! After two years????

Seriously? (2.0)

I can't belive so many people are still playing Halo 3. Yes it's good, but it is also old. I prefer to play newer and fresher things, and Gears 2 has some pretty graphics to keep me hooked until the next big online game.

I spend more time on COD5 though, just for the Zombie Nazis mode.

I have been banned form the Epic forums for discussing this issue. Epic went as far as to ban my I.P. address so i cant even view their forums. And for what? Because i said the same thing everyone else is saying "this game is flawed with bugs and plays terrible online" When i started up a new account to speak to the moderator thats when they banned my I.P. address. Epic is a joke! I hope someone passes this info around the gaming community to bring heat to Epic. They screwed up Gears 2 and they do not want any hate on their forums.

no surprise there... why wait in line when you can play instantly?

I hope Gears of War 2 can work out all bugs because it's a really fun game. But right now it's too buggy for my taste

The matchmaking works very quickly now. The reason Gears 2 is dropping is because Epic botched the online gameplay again. Bullet-Delay still exists, if even in a far subtler form. The ambiguous host system still stinks. The chainsaw ruins almost everything. People lag out of almost every game I play. All sorts of little laggy hiccups and other glitchy problems occur, like once I saw someone stuck to a flight of stairs after a smoke grenade knocked them over. They had to lay there until someone came along and killed them. Bottom line: Gears 2 online is not only sub-par compared to its competition, it's freaking horrible.

Serves Epic Games right because they really screwed the game up and tried copying Halo amonsgt other games. I've already went back to Gears 1.

BTW, Giving away Gears 2 LE at VillainTech.com. You have one more day to submit your entry.

My friends and I have been playing the Gears series since it came out and I have enjoyed it immensely but there is something really wrong with Gears 2. Forget the whole matchmaking problem (which is hard to do), it is difficult for me to believe they could ruin something so great, so completely. The chainsaw is way too unstoppable. The shotgun is now useless unless you are host (and don't give me this shit I don't know how to aim... I aimed perfectly well before.) In Gears 1 all the weapons were in balance with each other. It required real thought to gain advantage over someone. The grenade debacle make it impossible to sneak up on people. At first I really liked the grenades but now seeing what happens when five people throw smoke grenades into an area I am not so much a fan. I like the fact that you can plant the grenades in walls and the floor but as a player on the opposing team, if you are able to spot the grenades, you should be able to defeat them with one or two shots, not a whole freaking clip.) Close combat fighting is nothing more complicated that running up to someone with the lancer in hand holding down the B button. At least before there was some skill involved while dancing back and forth with the shotgun. The lack of map control is inconprehensible. The level design is horrible (there's a reason everyone votes for the old maps.) They feel so cluttered to me. I don't understand how a map so large can feel so small and difficult to navigate. I thought the lag in Gears 1 was bad and frustrating. I was so excited to hear Epic was focusing on this problem. I never imagined it could be worse. This is an Epic failure. I fear my favorite game franchise has been FUBARed. I am trying to force myself to like it. How did this happen? WTF Epic? WTF?

The patch made matchmaking SOMEWHAT quicker, not really all that much different. What's really f'in annoying is having to REDO EVERYTHING after every single match. I mean WTF?

You could've at LEAST use a Halo 3 "stick with party" system or a COD thing where everyone is in the same room until they leave. Having to search for players after every single match is just a pain in the ass and rather frustrating.

I find that about as surprising as the fact that Counter-Strike is still the most-played non-MMO on the PC.

NO!!! This is madness!! How can Halo 3 top GoW? I really hate Halo 3, and it burns my soul to see it beat GoW!

I got banned from Epic's forums too. They said I was trolling. Really, alls I did was list all of the bugs I had encountered. Yes, I did complain about them, rightfully so. I sold the game right after that. Then I sold my 360. Game is completely broken. No patch is going to save it. Wall tags, smoke stuns. No thanks. 15 second bleed out times for Execution. LOL I think Epic was trying to make this game a flop.

Halo 3 continues to dominate well over a year after its release, even while Microsoft continues to try and stifle it by delaying the Mythic Map pack and drag out the release of maps for an entire year.

Gears 2... second best multiplayer game EVER (the best is GoldenEye 007 from N64).

Halo 3 can go rot for all I care... I can't stand it.

Well, Halo 3 and Gears of War 1 & 2 suck. I'll stick with real games that actually take some brain power. I'll stick with Braid and Mirror's Edge and let Marcus and Master Chief have their butt love.

---Remember - "server based" does NOT equal better. Don't work that way.----

Is this self induced BS, or Microsoft induced BS. Your right, publishers and developers pay to keep dedicated servers running for shits and giggles. They take a few thousand hits to the pocket, so that they can laugh malevolently, as people expecting less lag, are met with more.

Server based games ARE less laggy. Servers do = better. Thats an uncontestable fact. With peer to peer based games, crappy hosts are selected. Hosts have other people on their network using up bandwidth. If a person has older equipment, they're connection quality will be lower. In normal circumstances, who cares. They may get the odd lag from time to time. But it doesn't really effect anyone else. But if their connection host, well now all of a sudden the hole game is laggy. Because their shit can't handle hosting a game.

If a person has a computer full of viruses, and spyware on a computer plugged into their router, every game they host is lag shit storm. Then theres host advantage. All of the abilities to cheat, that come with being connection host.

With dedicated servers, you have servers thats sole purpose is to be used for hosting games. Hence "dedicated". Theres no bandwidth being used on limewire, or by viruses and spyware. Theres no host advantage. No bridging people out of the game.

Theres two negatives to dedicate servers. Every once in a while they crash. And when that happens you can't play that game untill its fixed. In addition, some pubs/devs in particular EA, shuts down servers when a game doesn't have a big gamer population.

they should just rename the xbox 360 to Halo 360... lol

Let me guess you're not too good at Halo and constantly get t-bagged during matches. LOL...is that why you hate one of the most solid FPS ever created?

Even with matching times down, it still takes longer than other games--and worse yet, once the match is in session, if someone drops out you're out of luck. Another really annoying thing is that you have to start from scratch again if everyone dies in Horde or after one map on other modes. If someone drops off, you're out of luck and not getting new players joining. I think they overthought the multiplayer and need to bring back some of the basics. It may be too late for GOW2.

gears 2 was totally ruined by the smoke grenades knocking u down and the invincible chainsaw...ill stick with gow 1

Well I for one still love my Gears. Allthis bitching about the problems there are with the multiplayer have made peope forget how awesome the single player was.

And personally I have no problem whatsoever getting into online games, Horde is especially quick to get going and frankly horde alone is a game I will be playing for a very very long time.

Gears FTW! (as they say)

I have no problems getting into matches on GoW2, I have never had to wait longer than five minutes tops.

I also stopped playing Halo 3 because it's just so slow and repetitive with bland maps and overbalanced weapons that do nothing, plus the community is built around tards, nerds and racist kids who think you suck if you're a Grade 4 at any rank and aren't a Level 50 in three playlists. Also Bungie's attitude towards their community and their total arrogance and contempt for their customers who have paid them a shitload of money over the years is absolutely staggering and has made me vow to never buy one of their games brand new ever again. Not buying H3:Overrated DST or the Mythic Map Pack for Halo 3, and I've never ever seen a polite or constructive post from any Bungie employee on their forums; they seem to think it's great fun to openly laugh at and trash the opinions of their customers regardless of what people have to say. Totally unprofessional and they're never seeing my money again regardless of how good the game is.

Bungie bodged Halo 3 as well, don't forget that. Not as good as Halo 2 let alone other games on the same system which had come out beforehand, I honestly don't get why it's doing so well. Plus wondering about that just gets you told that you suck, precisely the problems with the Halo community I mentioned earlier.

Back to GoW2. I have had very few problems and see little reason to complain, plus I think it's a lot more fun than the original GoW was. If you want to find games quickly, go to the Flashback Players Choice and play on the older maps - those matches start real quick, I've never waited longer than one minute for a match in there.

WOW
You know there are a few flaws here & there, but damn yall sound like a bunch of whinning fangurls @ that time of the month.
Get over it & play another game.

Good riddance, Gears 2 multiplayer is a crappy experience even besides matchmaking - who thought getting stun locked and stick grenades on the walls was a good idea? Not even mentioning the glitches and inbalance issues

damn guys lay off the hateraide. gears 2 is an amazing game, much better than halo 1, 2 or 3. but, the reason why it fell off is because of what everyone is complaining about, long matchmaking times. however, lag, horrible netcode, etc, are not problems with gears. once in the game, it's fine. also, remember, lag is inherent on the internet, nothing can 'fix lag'. anyone blaming the developer should simmer down until you can code or have the slightest idea of what coding is. i used to think the gaming community was intelligent but, the more time i spend reading comments the more i realize it's a bunch of pubesecent teenage boys that like to run their mouths through their keyboards onto the interwebs.

The patch falls into the too little too late category. I find it amusing that a patch like this for a huge first party title got through to us so fast but DLC takes forever after it's "finished" by the developers.

Epic and Microsoft should have tossed us a map or two.. maybe people would have given up on Gears 2 and gone on to play Halo 3, WaW, or Left 4 Dead.

Ok every post i have read has said that GOW2 sucks and has lag with the hosts, and the chainsaw is so horrilbe,well first, Everyone has an opinon it is the way of life, second you can't wait more than five minutes to get a match well you really need some patience, and the host lag well not everybody is rich enough to afford good equipment and the chainsaw thing well stay at least 10 feet away from the other players and you will not get chainsawed, and halo 3 is still on top because almost everybody that owns a 360 owns a copy of Halo 3

I have over 600 matches in and ive never waited more then 5 minutes which is also better then being in the middle of a cod4 match and getting dropped. The multi player is still better then cod 4 so dont compare and halo 3 is a shit game that died inside a month if it is at the top of the list is because of stupid 12 yr olds that shouldnt be playing anyways. there should be an m rated live so not to have to play with dumb kids.;

does knowone buy the game to complete the campaign,evryone seems obsessed with playing online,as for all these problems evryone is commenting about,iv had the game for just over a month now and i havnt had a single one of them when iv played online.and about the g.o.w vs halo war thats going on lol thyre both great games , but i think g.o.w tops halo,all the halo fanboys just dont want to admit it !!! lol

no offense but whoever say's GoW2 wasnt ready for release is sadly mistaken, the story line is better, longer, and in depth than 1 was. (except the last boss :( he was lame) as for online play......they dont have the 200,000 people on at one time to find all these glitches, so you have to wait for the patch's sorry but any online game has patch's right away after release. look at the most played game of all, WoW (world of warcraft for all of you non computer playing guys) has and will keep having 100's of patch's every year they have one almost every week, stop whining its a great game and as for halo 3 can you say repetitive? same shit over and over and over and oh yeah OVER agian. B button FTW. GoW2 > halo