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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 5:40PM Vidikron said

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Burrito:

I'm not so sure that's accurate. Well, actually, I'm sure the money thing comes into play, but I'm not so sure they could fit entires seasons in HD onto a single disc. As it is, most BR movies are in excess of 20 GB for a single movie. So how would they fit, say, 13-20 episodes of an hour long show into a single 50 GB disc? They could do it in SD, but someone buying a BR is expecting HD.

I think they could get away with charging more for multiple seasons even if it was on a single disc. I doubt any reasonable person would expect 5 seasons to cost the same as a current single season just because they were both on a single disc.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 4:42PM Kgg said

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What am i missing? how will this make games more expensive? i get that filling a 400 gig disc with content will ofcourse be more costly, but what if they just use the extra space for duplicate information for faster loading time? hell why doesn't multiplat games do that already

Posted: Dec 4th 2008 12:07AM (Unverified) said

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I think most people are saying that because the cost of production would increase. Even if new disc writers weren't necessary (though from the sound of things thats likely), publishers would still need to purchase these discs, which would cost more than a standard BD, which would add to cost of production and may have to be passed onto the consumer. It depends on how much it increases the cost and how much it affects the profit margin.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2008 4:20AM Kgg said

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that doesn't seem logical to me :S i mean when they pulled back all the lbp copies they simply had to throw all those blu-ray discs away right? didn't cost any more for us... and all multiplatform games that releases today costs the same on blu-ray and dvd right? and even if it might cost more, i don't believe the price would go as high as 100$... even though here in Norway it actually costs 600 Kr which equals 83$ damnit... but thanks for your reply anyways :D
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 5:26PM (Unverified) said

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Dear Hideo Kojima,

I would like the entire Metal Gear SERIES remade in 1080p please. Thank you.


Sincerly,
Your Fans

P.S.
Better throw in VR missions and a stand alone Gray Fox game for good measure.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 5:32PM velvet396 said

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Hope the games wouldn't have mandatory installs... !

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 5:33PM (Unverified) said

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So how long would it take to read the full 400GB of data from one of these..?? I have a feeling you'd spend more time installing/loading the game than actually playing it..

Also, can a PS3 read a burned BD with data files on it? IE. NOT Blueray movie files or a DVD VIDEO_TS file structure, but your H264 mp4 movies in HD...


Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 5:54PM kaneda26 said

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@anonim1979

Please don't accuse me of fanboyism. I am one of the most objective members of this site.

Do you understand that the xbox 360's drive reads data at a different rate depending on the position of the data being read? This is compared to the constant read speed of the bluray drive. I will stand corrected that MGS4 was a dual layer disc. Other than that, you can check my sources if you disagree with my figures.

Please educate yourself about the difference between constant linear velocity vs constant angular velocity.

Blu-ray.com Blu-ray FAQ
http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/

Wikipedia - Constant Linear Velocity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_linear_velocity

Wikipedia - Constant Angular Velocity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_angular_velocity

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 6:34PM (Unverified) said

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I answered to your original post.
I KNOW what CAV/CLV is...

Anyway, I mostly disagree with this:
"12x DVD-Rom Drive which read DL discs between 4.36MB/s to 10.57MB/s depending on where it is on the disc as the rotational speed is constant giving an average of about 7.93MB/s."
is completly untrue as DVD in X360 has maximal transfer of ~16MB with minimal ~8MB/s

And PS3 keeps about 8.56MB/s

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2006/feb/10/willbluraybe

Anyway the facts simply speaks for themselves - no HDD install for PS3 = much longer loading times.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 6:25PM (Unverified) said

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Anyone else think that model is ugly as sin for an asian chick?

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 7:22PM dogmaticatheist said

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She's average. Nothing spectacular.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 7:25PM (Unverified) said

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you have impoissible standard for women. probably explain why you like d!ck instead
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Posted: Dec 4th 2008 12:56AM chispito said

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She doesn't look particularly comfortable, but she's still attractive.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2008 3:34AM (Unverified) said

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My standards are impossible because I find the ugly model unattractive? Sorry, I won't settle for a horse face.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 7:16PM (Unverified) said

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I imagine it'd take 4 days to burn one of those buggers.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 9:47PM (Unverified) said

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It would take.. a lot longer lolz.
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Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 7:27PM (Unverified) said

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Is dat pretty lady included? Pretty PLS!?!?

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 7:39PM SpartacusMagnus said

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I'm sure this is a stupid question, but why can multiple layered technology apply to HD DVD and Blu-Ray but not DVD?

I'm sure it has something to do with the blue vs red laser burn depth, but I'm not quite curious enough to do the research. Just wondering why we capped out at dual layered DVD discs.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 9:02PM (Unverified) said

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Good luck programing that. Long nights for that poor programer

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 9:11PM R Planteer said

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Disk media itself will have become out of date and obsolete before this is practical.

They scratch, they warp, they consume lots of power to read/spin. Solid state is where the future lies, and its getting better and cheaper all the time.

My bank account says these never see a practical use time of longer than a year, if they do ever.

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 9:16PM ummhello said

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if anyone can fill a 400gb disc, it'd be Squeenix....

...that would be one helluva FinalFantasy game, but we'd all probably be dead before it released...

Posted: Dec 3rd 2008 9:39PM (Unverified) said

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I swear fanboys are the most annoying creation of man. All the 360 fanboys jump to take down the PS3 and all the PS3 fanboys jump to take down the 360 on any post with any sort of twig to throw. Forget that all the information posted is second hand from news sites that are probably biased or paid to be biased in the first place. Not to mention lazy developers and coders. Take some electrical science classes and learn what you're talking about, please!

Really what should be happening is the realization that in the 80's a meg was huge and now we have trilobytes and a 400 GB CD.

While solidstate technology is neat its not going to be successful until a trilobyte harddrive is common. Think about it, an HD movie currently takes up 6+ Gigs and a 128 gig solidstate hard drive is around $500? Not the best ratio. And lets not forget how easy its going to be to lose data on a solidstate. Solid states have a whole lot of vulnerabilities that I am not entirely comfortable with.

Also when you factor all the extras that everyone pays out the ass for on DVD's and Blue Rays are only going to get more extreme. Especially if the popularity of reality TV and celebrity worship keeps up (ie the publics desire to see behind the scenes). Movies and detail are simply going to become more and more data intensive. And as game developers figure out how to program their software in native 1080p (which neither system has much of despite back of the box claims), games are going to significantly increase in size.

Personally I'm more fascinated how technology moves forward than whether republicans or democrats are--- wait I mean whether the 360 or PS3 is better.

Oh and no one seems to have brought up that reading that much data from a compressed area would require a hot f***ing laser.

Either way, I'm impressed.

Posted: Dec 4th 2008 12:24AM (Unverified) said

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This is going to put an end to DLC......right?

Posted: Dec 4th 2008 1:12PM (Unverified) said

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I was reading just the other day about some new tech that uses translucent plastic discs to store data holographically. I forget exactly how much data they can hold, but it's a very, very large number and with the added benefit that the discs will last forever (CDs and DVDs apparently aren't good for archival storage), and since it's stored in a hologram, reading the data is apparently really easy even if you only have half of the disc, and does not depend on a proprietary bit of tech, just a laser.

So this is cool, but that's cooler.

Posted: Dec 4th 2008 6:58PM mergedwarrior said

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pr0n can now be even BIGGER, LONGER, and have more uncut bad acting than before!

Posted: Dec 6th 2008 6:31AM (Unverified) said

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Couple of problems
1. This monster discs may never be commercially adopted by studios-they would have to play all brd players. Not sure that will work
2. PS3 optical drive reads brd at a quite pathetic 2x!
3. Seeing is believing. Not seen the test yet so this is just speculation for the time being.

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