Mythic delaying work on Warhammer expansion to improve live game

this makes sense. WoW's first expansion came after EXTENSIVE retooling of the core game.

Blizzard could learn a lot from this approach. But then it'd probably take years to fix the huge amount of things that are wrong with WoW.

seriously thinking of playing this...
any advice?

Do not play if you have to buy at full retail price. The game is continually bleeding players for good reason (not just WotLK, although WotLK does further expose how many problems WAR has).

I quit at level 30, enjoying the game up to about level 20. I had both a healer and a dps class, on two different servers - one Destruction, one Order. On Order, I was in the biggest guild (200+ members) on a launch server. When I quit a couple weeks ago, there were only 5 people from my guild on during prime time.

During level 20-25 on both characters, I hit a huge xp wall grind. Before release, Mythic decided to increase the amount of xp needed to level but did not increase the quest xp given out. This xp grind was created to slow down player advancement and subsequently contributed to people leaving the game. Mythic tried to address this problem, but like so many other attempted solutions to issues with this game, the minor xp boost did not solve xp wall grind.

The other contribution to players leaving this game is how buggy large scale sieges are. Despite being what this game is supposed to be about, sieges infrequently occur due in part to nobody playing and in part to nobody wanting to try to siege/defend since the sieges are buggy - everything from rewards to the game engine itself falls apart.

Further, I had to install a bunch of addons just to get the game playable, like one addon just to manage buff refresh rates which would lag my beast of a computer due to poor design decisions.

If you can find a copy for ~$10-20, I recommend a purchase because there are some nice ideas here.

But if you pay more than that, you are paying too much for what little enjoyment there is that will not extend past one month.

Game severely needs an expansion pack, the game is just plain boring after you hit max level and have done ORvR and Scenarios.

Its just a grind for mediocre rewards at that point. Killing players rewards RPs which reward minimal stat bonuses/ability to wear better gear that isn't substantially better. And taking keeps is just to farm more RP/kill keep lords to get gear. The thing I hated most about WoW PvP is in this game which DAoC never had... PvP being a grind for better gear.

PvE content is basically nonexistant, there are a few dungeons, but the lockout timers are ridiculous for the rewards they give(crappy set pieces).

Played their past game DAoC a long time and was satisfied with the PvE content and PvP system. 8v8 is funner than 6v6 because it exists, RvR was better because of 3 realms, keep takes were funner because it was about killing people and getting relics, not a PvE type grind for gear/RPs. RPs got you abilities in DAoC that impacted the game a tremendous amount, thus making it rewarding.

Great idea delaying their expansion. Lord knows in the history of the company they haven't put out one that wasn't buggy, broken, or full of unbalanced classes.

Another former player here going 'meh' @ WAR.

The crafting is awful: imagine WoW's crafting, make it so that you have to manually drag and drop ingredients for every single piece you make. Now make the crafting result in pathetic enhancements that cost way too much. The poor Auction house doesn't help either.

There isn't enough PvE content. You run out of quests 2/3 through T2 and so your only solution is mob grinding or scenario grinding.

Scenarios are the worst game breaking feature. You get loot, xp, RP and gold. Lots of it too. There's no reason to do anything but scenarios. As a result, no one does Orvr or public quests and the cities are desserted.

Itemisation is appauling. Weapon skill on caster sets? If there's no carrot of uber gear for your grinding, it robs you of a lot of motivation.

WAR is still better than WOW at least. The game is getting better all the time. Its more balanced and the bugs are quickly getting fixed. They're fixing itemization next patch. Theres no way i could go back to the endless grind fest that is WOW.

Hey it makes sense... look at Star Wars Galaxies.. there are still launch bugs in that game.. still Jump to Light bugs in the game.. and they don't seem like they'll ever be fixed.

Solid game first, expansions later. How many YEARS went by for WoW before BC came out.

I'm a bit torn on the issue.

One one hand I desperately want there to be an xpac to supply more PvE content. However, on the other hand, I don't want the development of an xpac to get in the way of dealing with QA bugs or just player suggestions.

I guess what I really want is for Mythic to have two teams; one team will work on fixing bugs and adding small updates to the game and the other team will work on the xpac. :)

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I play and love it. Guys dont let the whining get you down, every MMO has incessant whining from prepubescent teens and snobby assholes. Look at the forums of any MMO and thisll tell you that, play it and come to your own conclusion.

personally i love it, it gears whole heartedly in a PvP direction and seeks to retain that, tho i hope they give PvE some more love. As far as an X-pac in concerned, i understand the concept of being slow about it. You guys need to realize what "fix the core game: means for mythic. Not just a bug fix here and there. We just got two new classes and two more are on the way, not to mention all the other unadded content theyre putting in without fee, before xpac.