Students at New York University may soon study how to make games instead of simply skip class to play them. A first for any college in New York City, beginning next fall NYU will offer "long-term undergraduate and graduate degrees in the research, design and development of digital games."
With around 70 different game design courses planned, the sure to be popular program will likely fill up quick, with only 10 to 12 NYU students allowed to participate in 2009, with additional Master's and certificate programs planned for an even smaller group beginning the following year. So, do you have what it takes to tighten up the graphics on level 3?
[Via Wonderland]
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Posted: Dec 11th 2008 10:49AM (Unverified) said
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 7:57PM (Unverified) said
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 10:58AM baby sea tuna said
I was thinking about going back to school and getting an additional degree in games development (here in Baltimore, not NY...where I'd be paying back loans until the end of time) but now, with all the layoffs and whatnot, I'm not sure if it'd be a wise use of my time, energy, and money. Especially since I already have a pretty recession-proof career.
Still, it'd be nice to have a job in the area of my passion...
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Still, it'd be nice to have a job in the area of my passion...
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 4:16PM (Unverified) said
"Can you belive my mom said I wasn't going anywhere playing video games!?"
You haven't gotten anywhere, prick.
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You haven't gotten anywhere, prick.
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 11:16AM ZombieRobot said
Interested in actually pursuing game development as an art and business?
Go to this school:
www.digipen.edu
My upperclassmen friends went on to make Portal. nuff said.
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Go to this school:
www.digipen.edu
My upperclassmen friends went on to make Portal. nuff said.
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 11:18AM NaeemTHM said
Bah...I live in NY and wasted years of my life studying Computer Programming. Now I'm stuck in a cubicle for perhaps the rest of my life.
Moral: You never actually DO what you major in. On the plus side, I work for The NPD Group. So I do something kinda sorta related to gaming.
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Moral: You never actually DO what you major in. On the plus side, I work for The NPD Group. So I do something kinda sorta related to gaming.
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 1:03PM spasewalkr said
i think you're doin it wrong. er...at least DID it wrong at some point...
out of curiosity, where did you go to school?
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out of curiosity, where did you go to school?
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 1:08PM monkeyssuck said
I'm studying the same thing. Well, computer science, a bit more than programming. Just gotta do side projects to get the requirements of developing a game (Xbox 360 XNA games count). It's a tough industry to get into, and degrees like this are worthless anyway because companies said they would take computer scientists or software engineers over someone who specialized in game programming.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2008 11:19AM (Unverified) said
What the hell is this? A ridiculous amount of other schools (the kind that don't advertise on X-Play) already have this degree. Does it deserve a special mention because its at NYU? 9/11 happened. Stop milking it for enrollment NYU. God, with blogging this shoddy it almost makes me want to fly a plane into a building. I guess that would just give NYU more ad-placement in the intertubes for pointless stuff though.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2008 11:20AM Shagittarius said
Talk about the most worthless degrees ever. Don't throw away your money people. Unless your a programmer a want a game centric course, game design theory courses are completely bullshit useless to anyone in the industry.
In fact I'd say you'd have less of a chance of landing a game job if the interviewer found out you had one of these degrees.
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In fact I'd say you'd have less of a chance of landing a game job if the interviewer found out you had one of these degrees.
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 11:43AM (Unverified) said
You know, what you say would be SO TRUE... if it wasn't for the fact that the last two game developers I've worked for have hired a half-dozen game designers out of game design programs just like this one. I was involved in the hiring process, and the degree (along with the work they produced in the program, a portfolio is always a good thing) was definitely a positive factor.
So I guess it's so not true, at least in some cases. There may not be jobs for thousands and thousands of graduates out of programs like these, and of course job-finding will suck if there's a glut of graduates, but there are definitely jobs and it definitely helps.
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So I guess it's so not true, at least in some cases. There may not be jobs for thousands and thousands of graduates out of programs like these, and of course job-finding will suck if there's a glut of graduates, but there are definitely jobs and it definitely helps.
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 1:03PM Shagittarius said
I don't know any companies who have a pure "Game Designer" position, unless its a completely BS title designed to attract cheap "DO-All" labor.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2008 1:15PM monkeyssuck said
I've read articles that said that companies would rather have a software engineer or computer scientist over someone who specialized in game programming. For that matter, why would ANYONE hire someone who just studied that? Sure, the portfolio is good, but you can develop a portfolio on your own.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2008 11:21AM (Unverified) said
Took these bigger schools long enough to catch on!
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Posted: Dec 11th 2008 12:06PM Jomolungma said
I love how so many are dissing this program. Does anyone really know what courses comprise the degree? How the hell can you say whether the degree will fly in the field if you don't even know what courses you have to take to get the degree.
Now, that being said, I have friends that have attended NYU and have taught at NYU. It's a notorious fiend for enrollment, and definitely not above capitalizing on "the hot thing" to make a buck. So I'm sure much of the motivation behind announcing this was to increase applications and enrollment figures, even if only a select few will actually get the degree.
But higher education can be a "I can top that" kind of environment, so the good news may be that more major universities may start to believe this type of education is an essential part of their portfolio. This would lead to more people getting formally educated in game design, theory, criticism, etc., and may, ultimately, really help video games develop into what film has become - a mature artform, studied and practiced throughout the world and valued for what it teaches and the experiences it conveys. That would be a nice thing for us gamers.
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Now, that being said, I have friends that have attended NYU and have taught at NYU. It's a notorious fiend for enrollment, and definitely not above capitalizing on "the hot thing" to make a buck. So I'm sure much of the motivation behind announcing this was to increase applications and enrollment figures, even if only a select few will actually get the degree.
But higher education can be a "I can top that" kind of environment, so the good news may be that more major universities may start to believe this type of education is an essential part of their portfolio. This would lead to more people getting formally educated in game design, theory, criticism, etc., and may, ultimately, really help video games develop into what film has become - a mature artform, studied and practiced throughout the world and valued for what it teaches and the experiences it conveys. That would be a nice thing for us gamers.
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 12:35PM (Unverified) said
"Class don't forget to hand in your essays next week on:
'What we learned about level design from the 16-bit era'
and
'Sequels, when should we stop'"
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'What we learned about level design from the 16-bit era'
and
'Sequels, when should we stop'"
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 1:34PM (Unverified) said
Shrug, my old uni had a Games Computing course for years anyway. I think Rockstar Lincoln have some of their students working for them.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2008 3:18PM ThornedVenom said
To anyone who's looking for a videogame developer certificate or something, here's a heads-up:
http://guildhall.smu.edu/
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http://guildhall.smu.edu/
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 4:45PM (Unverified) said
It's kind of a bummer how every single conceivable career path has it's own super-specialized degree program.
I was looking through the help wanted ads in the paper - you need a degree in administration to be an office admin (glorified receptionist). You need 6 to 8 years of education in library science to shelve books. And where I live there is actually a shortage of workers. What's happening? When did a degree become so worthless? When did employers just start assuming that everyone who walked in their door was just incapable of performing any menial job task without an expensive specialized education?
Majoring in game design is just another aspect of this sad trend.
Maybe they just re-named their CS department the "video game" department to attract more students. Who knows.
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I was looking through the help wanted ads in the paper - you need a degree in administration to be an office admin (glorified receptionist). You need 6 to 8 years of education in library science to shelve books. And where I live there is actually a shortage of workers. What's happening? When did a degree become so worthless? When did employers just start assuming that everyone who walked in their door was just incapable of performing any menial job task without an expensive specialized education?
Majoring in game design is just another aspect of this sad trend.
Maybe they just re-named their CS department the "video game" department to attract more students. Who knows.
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 8:24PM (Unverified) said
AJ, I agree there are many "menial" jobs that do not require specialized training or degrees but game development is not one of them!
I disagree with a NY school having a certain pedigree or influence on you getting a job in the industry, there is no Harvard for game design. Your success or failure depends squarely on your skill and determination!
I attended an artist factory type school outputting thousands of talentless hacks every month. All complaining the school promised them game careers, problem is, its up to the individuals own tenacity wether they succeed or fail but training (especially for artists and programmers) is essential!
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I disagree with a NY school having a certain pedigree or influence on you getting a job in the industry, there is no Harvard for game design. Your success or failure depends squarely on your skill and determination!
I attended an artist factory type school outputting thousands of talentless hacks every month. All complaining the school promised them game careers, problem is, its up to the individuals own tenacity wether they succeed or fail but training (especially for artists and programmers) is essential!
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 6:06PM (Unverified) said
NYU?
cool, i'm an undergrad student in GameDesign here in São Paulo - Brazil, the major has been existent here for about 5 years now, pretty sweet.
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cool, i'm an undergrad student in GameDesign here in São Paulo - Brazil, the major has been existent here for about 5 years now, pretty sweet.
Posted: Dec 11th 2008 7:52PM (Unverified) said
making games is easier said than done. my plan, becoming a software engineer but couldn't even pass one of the most important classes you need for that: physics.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2008 11:11PM (Unverified) said
Guess what! I found something similar to this course in Pune, India. www.seamedu.com helps ya!
SeamEdu offers a fantastic course in Game Design. Latest softwares and on job training .. log on to the site to know more!
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SeamEdu offers a fantastic course in Game Design. Latest softwares and on job training .. log on to the site to know more!
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