Jaffe: God of War 3 'looks 25-30% better' than VGA trailer
Last night's footage is only part of what he saw during an internal SCEA meeting, Jaffe revealed on his blog. "The stuff I saw that I raved about was probably finished 1-2 days before I got to the studios. The Spike stuff I saw had aleady been turned into Spike so it was 100% older," he explained.
"To give you an idea, the stuff I saw that I raved about looked about 25-30% better [than the HD footage Spike broadcast]," he said of the closed meeting footage, adding, "It happened to blow me away and remains the best looking console game I've ever seen ... beyond Gears 2 which so far is the best looking console game ever released." As for what Jaffe had to say to those who questioned his likening of GOW3 to a painting, well, you'll have to hit his blog to read that colorful prose (and watch a video of his thoughts on video game awards shows).
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Hyams @ Dec 15th 2008 10:32PM
So there is still hope?
I mean, the VGA trailer is actually pretty good looking, especially considering that it's in 1080p. But it did fall short of the 'OMGWTFBBQ' level graphics many were expecting.
Hyams @ Dec 15th 2008 10:38PM
Also, it looks live I've replied to this article before it's actually been made public.
This is because I am awesome.
Chainblast @ Dec 15th 2008 11:35PM
Yeah I thought the graphics in the trailer looked good, but it didn't really enlarge the scope. To me it looked like a pretty GoW2 and not much else. I have hope though, this is only the first glimpse of in-game stuff. In other words I thought the graphics looked good but the trailer fucking sucked.
Jor-el @ Dec 15th 2008 11:20PM
"Also, it looks live I've replied to this article before it's actually been made public.
This is because I am awesome."
Long time reader, first time commenter. All i have to say is that i Laughed. Out loud. Never has that happened, and it shall never occur again. Thank you.
Shmil @ Dec 15th 2008 11:34PM
Only Chris Grant has that power...unless you're a witch!
BURN HIM/HER!
steve @ Dec 16th 2008 2:37AM
It scares me that all everyone says is great about this game is the graphics. Pretty graphics do not make a great game. Hopefully they don't put everything on the back burner just to make things look pretty.
Kye says: Ich bin keine Grammatik Nazi! @ Dec 16th 2008 5:02AM
Jor-el you liar, that was your second comment!
MikeO. @ Dec 16th 2008 11:34AM
*phew* For a while there, I was concerned it would only be 23% better looking than the trailer shown.
Seriously, how do you grade visual quality like that? Is 100% "realer than real life?" like that Sony fanboy was arguing about Prologue? "It looks more real than the real cars!" Hah!
DiL @ Dec 16th 2008 6:39PM
steve your a goddamn liar! graphics are everything! unless your in japan, than its all about feminine attributes
DemonGSides @ Dec 15th 2008 11:04PM
Molyneux anyone?
Ridgecity @ Dec 15th 2008 11:10PM
lol. Now both companies have their own "professional apologizer" and that's without anyone even commenting about it. It looked almost PS2...
At least the creator acknowledges what everyone was thinking...
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Dec 15th 2008 11:05PM
My response to any developer that hypes their game: "I'll believe it when I see it."
Not saying the game will look bad, just I've grown cynical over the multiple times where I've believed the hype and became disappointed.
-slycooper_rocker- (lorddshadow the amazing) psn: shahanasalam @ Dec 15th 2008 11:13PM
AKA haze.
Albanian_Killa @ Dec 15th 2008 11:23PM
Yeah, but the HAZE hype-train was amazing :) A lot of fun I had. Rob Yescombe is the shit!
Alien Lord @ Dec 15th 2008 11:52PM
Vegeta that's why when a developer starts talking about how great their game will be you just ignore them and you wont be let down by the game when it's released. I've been doing that for a few years now and I don't usually find new games disappointing but if a game really is sub standard this trick doesn't help.
Leo McKelvin @ Dec 16th 2008 12:14AM
Gears 2 another example. Not near the awful game of Haze but fell a bit short of all the cliffy hype.
Wiinterfang @ Dec 16th 2008 12:29AM
Vegeta what does the scouter say about Jaffe Bullshit levels?
Ihavepants @ Dec 16th 2008 12:35AM
THEY'RE OVE-- err. No actually. Just no.
Snap Count @ Dec 16th 2008 1:19AM
I wanna see someone come out and say their upcoming game is crap..
" It look likes crap it plays like crap, he'll it even smells like crap".
Just to see of a little reverse logic works. I am willing to bet the first time it would.
KingTorres @ Dec 16th 2008 12:27PM
@Snap Count: they tried that with Blacksite( http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/blacksite-dev-admits-to-rushed-product ) but...
Snap Count @ Dec 16th 2008 8:20PM
@ King Torres--- I just quickly perused that article, and what I got out of it was that they called it crap after they released it....
I want the Hype train to start like a year before release....or the non hype train. You now show up to E3, no game play video at all or working demo. Just have someone standing on one side of the booth beside a whole bunch of low-res screen shots telling everyone to move along, and then on the other side have Roseanne (booth babe). Then in October have the CEO come out and say "everyone took early Christmas holidays, so we are putting the game out in 3 days"
Turd Ferguson (formerly antsmarching) @ Dec 15th 2008 11:08PM
Okay. I understand that this isn't the finished version, but just tell us it looks better. Don't try to quantify it.
"This whopper tastes 35% better than that big mac"
DarrenHollywood @ Dec 16th 2008 1:36AM
They have graphics that go to 11.
Turd Ferguson (formerly antsmarching) @ Dec 16th 2008 7:22AM
"How much more black can it be? The answer is none. None more black."
Shagittarius @ Dec 16th 2008 1:24PM
But is it in Dubly?
Jtenma @ Dec 15th 2008 11:15PM
Really Jaffe...The game looks fine already,you don't have to keep doing this...
SoulBlade @ Dec 15th 2008 11:17PM
dude's just setting up the community for a letdown. i'm with Vegeta on this one and believe it when i see it.
Misfit Toy @ Dec 15th 2008 11:22PM
Jaffe and his crazy math http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avDxWrdbjws
Ridgecity @ Dec 15th 2008 11:27PM
In his defense I wanna add a few comments from his reply:
"It is NOT the thing I was raving about- as I made clear in a video post a week ago- but I still think it looks darn good. To me, the stuff Spike showed when viewed in proper resolution looks like a AAA God Of War to me. It doesn’t rock my world but it doesn’t look: meh. It looks like I’d expect a next-gen GOW to look. Granted, the team still has a long way to go and I imagine the final game- in all areas- will look much better. But I still thought it looked good."
WRE @ Dec 16th 2008 1:05AM
So a AAA God of War, according to Jaffe, doesn't "rock [his] world" but it isn't "meh", either. Okay...
In any event, that pretty much sums up my opinion of the series as well. Thanks, Dave.
Ethan @ Dec 15th 2008 11:35PM
Extra nipple definition?
jonjon72 @ Dec 15th 2008 11:37PM
I hated it when Molyneax hyped Fable and I hate Jaffe now for doing the same for GOW3.
Guys, stop hyping and game and let it speak for itself when its completed. The last thing I want to see is a repeat of Haze or the smoke and mirrors created with the original Killzone 2 trailer.
kaneda @ Dec 16th 2008 1:58PM
I don't like the hype either, but I understand why they do it. It's free publicity. Considering our how many studios are shutting down due to poor sales, I'm sure these guys are gonna throw everything they have at publicizing their games, for better or worse.
kaneda @ Dec 16th 2008 2:00PM
Retcon. I just realized that Jaffe isn't even developing this game.
Vincent @ Dec 15th 2008 11:38PM
So does this fall under the typical Sony theory of "waiting"
Now we have to "just wait the graphics will be better"
They were expecting people to go goo-goo over the vid and when they didn't they needed to come up with something fast.. and 25%-30% better was what they had..
Wiizer @ Dec 15th 2008 11:43PM
I feel that Jaffe's blog is 40-45% more accurate than his previous statement.
Alien Lord @ Dec 15th 2008 11:44PM
What did Sony pay him to say that?
WRE @ Dec 16th 2008 1:06AM
25-30% more than his normal pay.
offday @ Dec 15th 2008 11:48PM
How do you pull a random number like 30% out of your butt?
fred @ Dec 16th 2008 8:58AM
89.7% of percentages are made up on the spot
Mr Khan @ Dec 16th 2008 12:03PM
"Statistics show that 60% of the time it works every time."
Misfit Toy @ Dec 16th 2008 6:55PM
Unless you're talking about Billy Dee William's Colt 45. It works EVERYTIME!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pK5HmuCMBM&feature=related
Obie @ Dec 15th 2008 11:53PM
Why does he only talk about the Goddamn graphics? Shut up, shut IT...how will it play?
Liar and Heavenly Sword looked sweet, but played like garbage...give me good gameplay THEN talk about bumpmapped nipples.
Bluebrake @ Dec 16th 2008 10:23AM
Because we already know the gameplay will be fantastic. The series has already been through three lead designers and two developers and all the games have been masterpieces. Graphics are all we have to wonder about.
atrimus @ Dec 15th 2008 11:55PM
i'll abstain from jumping on the "Let's pan Sony games because of lousy trailers" train until i see more of the game. the last time i considering hopping on that train Sony stopped it dead in its tracks with some unparalleled, realtime KZ2 footage. i seriously doubt they'll drop the ball with God of War 3, considering it's probably their most popular franchise next to Gran Turismo.
Reader @ Dec 15th 2008 11:55PM
Hmm, I think he needs to get his eyes checked. I saw the same thing, and I have to say it was more like 22.6% better.
LordVesper007 @ Dec 16th 2008 12:01AM
Wow this game is not getting off to a good start is it from a PR standpoint...
Little Big PSN ID: johnnynumber5 @ Dec 16th 2008 12:20AM
I didn't get Spike in HD anyway so my trailer was in SD and looked pretty awful compared to my expectations. If you have an HDTV and a PS3 go download the trailer from the PSN marketplace. It looks much better.
Little Big PSN ID: johnnynumber5 @ Dec 16th 2008 12:22AM
It actually reminded me of Gears 2. Whatever that monster was looked like a Brumak. Pretty promising stuff for being this early in development.
fodder @ Dec 16th 2008 12:26AM
David Jaffe Has Opinion
Noted video game developer David Jaffe today expressed his opinion on the current situation via his blog. He stated that certain online communities had been overly harsh in their criticisms and that had they employed further critical analysis they would arrive at a similar conclusion to his own.
He then went on to add that he likes Spiderman and holds a liberal political stance.