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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:08PM (Unverified) said

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i wish phil harrison was here, he always made things better :(
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:15PM moshin said

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phil harrison would not have let it open without gamelaunching... home - gamelaunching = meh
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:50PM haas599 said

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It sounds like a chicken and egg thing. I think Home needs to be out FIRST so developers have an insentive to integrate it in their game. The first game that fully utilises home on it's release will sell very good. (remember trophies)

So Phil's philosophy as you state it may be the reason Home was delayed for so long. Whether it's the reason or not, since Phil has left things have been moving forward at a steady pace.

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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 8:45PM (Unverified) said

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haha 360 troll thats new
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:08PM (Unverified) said

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Im with the 60% ill im doing right now is just dancing around (its a sausage fest)
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 7:14PM (Unverified) said

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sausage fest, anywhere on the internet get used to it, since on xbox live it's the same thing.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:09PM IREWolfman said

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I'm one of the 60%. But the network has been killed since the Open Beta was released.

Pretty smooth for 2 years but now i cant play online at all.

Send your frustration here if your having the same problem.

http://community.eu.playstation.com/playstationeu/board/message?board.id=419&thread.id=73116
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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*all
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:10PM blueskyv201 said

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Considering the fact that this poll was taken on PS3fanboy, the results are pretty bad.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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well, i'm sure there are 360 trolls on here too
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:50PM maxpontiac said

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Something I have learned over my time here is this site, although entitled "PS3fanboy", is not a fanboy site.

Sometimes I agree with it, while a majority of the time I am not a fan of negative journalism.

Home has a ton of potential, and the ignorant need to realize it.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:57PM haas599 said

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The poll itself was horribly done.

All you needed were two options to find out how people truly feel about Home.

A: Do you want to see Home grow and succeed?

B: Do you want to see Home fail miserably?
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:10PM (Unverified) said

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"Today, we are at the beginning of a long journey"

Don't take three years to make something and then say "Its the beginning of a long journey"

Whatever - i'll be on Resistance until i can find something better to do than dance
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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well, i'm sure there are 360 trolls on here too
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:18PM (Unverified) said

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oops, sorry for the double post
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:32PM (Unverified) said

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lol no problem
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 7:29PM (Unverified) said

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I agree. In fact, the only feature I care for is the Game Launching ability. Which unless I'm an idiot, doesn't work right now. It's also something that could easily be integrated into the XMB. I couldn't give two shits about the rest of what's there. Honestly.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:12PM (Unverified) said

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I'm with the 60% as well. There's potential there. I'm waiting for when I can place a flat screen tv in my summer house. And hopefully in the final build, there'll be more bowling lanes, pool tables, and chess boards.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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Look, I like my PS3 as much as the next guy, but Home is just a crock of sh!t. I mean seriously... anybody see that gamespot video? Where the lead home developer at Sony was basically like

"One of the coolest things you can do is dance!" :$.

Home is to the PS3 what the Wiimote is to the Wii.. Nice idea.. but it's just a gimmick really.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:57PM (Unverified) said

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Except the wiimote gimmick sells
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 7:11PM haas599 said

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Home isn't the gimmick, the dancing is

Come on, at least one of those move must have made you crack a smile

Me and my friends got on home and had a good time for a little while. If you expect to go into home and just be entertained by Sony, you got the wrong idea, thats what the games you buy for your PS3 are for.

I see home as a kind of huge 3D internet forum cake with lots of icing on top in the form of minigames, Gamespaces, customization, etc..
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:22PM Jack Tretton said

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"In time I would say that Home will definitely become a reason to purchase [PS3]."

"No one else is doing anything of this scale or ambition."

He's high as a kite, everybody: Goofballs!
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:29PM (Unverified) said

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This poll stunk. I mean I don't think Home is revolutionary, but I do really like it. Come on, nothing in between 'revolutionary' and 'Not great'?? What brainiac came up with this?
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:58PM moshin said

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u read my mind
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:31PM J Acheson said

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I played with it a little over the weekend. I lost interest before I even made it out into the public areas. Just not enough room for personalization out of the gate. Seriously, you spent three years working on this, and there are only eight shirts for guy-avatars?
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:35PM (Unverified) said

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I am in the 60% only because I am hoping the trophy Hall of Fame hasn't been canned. Is this feature still coming, that is really all I care about. I can't believe it has taken Sony years to get to this point and none of the cool features are incorporated yet (media sharing, trophy Hall of Fame, etc., etc...) AND I haven't been able to log on to Home since the Open Beta started. Right now I am in the 60% but if it takes a long time for these features to be incorporated or if they never come I will soon be in the 25% who think that Home is a bust.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 7:37PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah they've already said they're still working on the Trophy room. Devs have to model game-specific trophies (I think) before a room will look right.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:35PM (Unverified) said

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I own and love both a PS3 and X360. In my opinion, HOME at this stage is incredibly lame. Did you see they are actually charging REAL MONEY to purchase lamps, furniture, etc in HOME? This to me is a ridiculous decision by Sony. "Hey, I bought a $2 lamp on HOME the other night for my place, you wanna come over and see it so we can text each other, dance, and waste our lives away?"
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 7:04PM Sleestak said

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Did you know your 360 charges you real money to connect to their online service? I would rather pay 2 bucks for a lamp than 50 bucks a year.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 10:29PM Jack Tretton said

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@magicfett

Except you *won't* shell out only $2/yr to decorate your digs or clothe your avatar.

Do you think pissing your money away on useless LBP costumes and crap for Home is better than shelling out an annual fee for Xbox Live? That's some wack fanboy rationale.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 9:26PM (Unverified) said

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@magicfett: On top of all that, they shove ADS into the interface of the Xbox regardless of how much you pay. Ridiculous.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 10:30PM Jack Tretton said

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@magicfett

Except you won't spend only $2/yr to decorate your Home hangout, or clothe your Quincy...or spruce up your Sackboy.

See how it adds up? You'll reach $50 in no time.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:35PM Kinjiro said

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Give us a party game launching system through the XMB that doesn't require load a bloated SIM. I must be a 360 fanboy since I think Home is a waste of time regardless being in love with my ps3.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:36PM (Unverified) said

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You might really enjoy barbie dolls then. I've heard there is tons of clothes for customizing.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:39PM (Unverified) said

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@ Jon Acheson, and a joke btw
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:44PM (Unverified) said

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All I want to do is a jump button. I that to much to ask for. I don't even care about getting on top of things I just like to jump in my games.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 8:57PM (Unverified) said

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i second that
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 7:19PM antwerpo said

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Well they better expand rapidly because at first I was impressed but by now I lost interest because Home is only a few spaces, it's just to small to be enjoyable. They better have about 100 spaces around christmas or Home will not fullfil my expectations.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 5:53PM (Unverified) said

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While I concur with all of the issues that others have with Home I'm optimistic that it will eventually become something cool and useful.

Look at the firmware updates that Sony has provided. Compared to when it launched, the PS3 has tons more functionality now than it did. So there is some history of Sony slowly providing more functionality over time.

The other thing to consider is that Home must be a very expensive project. 3 years in development and now they have several millions of people logged into their servers from around the world. I haven't seen any dollar figures on what Home has cost Sony, but I bet it has to be over $3-4mil. I don't think Sony would be throwing money out the window developing something like this if they didn't have big plans for it.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:02PM (Unverified) said

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At the start of a long journey? It's taken years to get to this stage. We'll be in the next generation before home becomes something worth using.

Unfortunately if they can nail the social aspect (Hard when console owners don't have keyboards for the most part) then I can see people getting into this. For core gamers I really can't see much happening unless they go the whole hog and effectively replace the PSN with Home. Give me downloadable content, demos of games, small 2d versions to play (Like Mirror's Edge).

I'd love to go to a special, huge area that contained everything relating to a game with decked out statues and things but it has to them have content for me to get. That's the clincher. Without game content and the ability to do things relating to that game it's worthless.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 10:05PM (Unverified) said

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Reading the interview - hardware generations are irrelevent to Home - if it takes off how they're planning (which i suspect it will) it can and will span multiple hardware generations.

They're obviously looking into PSP integration too.

Sofar ive made good friends with lots of common interests in ways much easier than any other platform ive encountered.. I think if people actually studied the way the real (non abusive/dossing) home users interact with each other they'd see a much more positive thing. It's already showing its potential.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:00PM ocdog45 said

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i believe this is true. us americans just are not really into stuff like home. home looks like its made for Europe.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:32PM Mazrael said

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and Sony care about Europe?
I'm sure the US psn gets far more content than Europe.. Europe seem to like Wii's for some reason :s
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:15PM (Unverified) said

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Anyone who doesn't see ANY potential in Home is one of two things.

1) Not the demographic Sony were targeting in the first place, or
2) An idiot.

This coming from someone who has no intention of logging into Home again... until new content is added.
Think of it this way - what was the PSN Store like when it launched? Pretty damn bare. I logged in once, and didn't bother coming back until they added more games. Should they have just said "Oh well, people don't like it, let's pull the plug"? No, because it's an ever-expanding service that is now LIGHT YEARS better than when it launched.

I think a lot of people will be surprised when, 6 months from now, gamers are choosing to buy multiplatform games on the PS3 because they not only get the equivalent of achievements (trophies), but also extra items for use in Home... regardless of whether they use them or not (what use do you get out of trophies or achievements?).

I have a feeling that Sony has intentionally released Home as bare bones as it is so that they can trickle down a steady stream of content every week (like the PSN) and people will slowly start coming back. Hell, all it would take would be for a God of War 3 or Uncharted 2 game space with an exclusive trailer, and the servers would be knocked on their ass... AGAIN.

But hey, far be it from me to spoil anyone's fun... Home is boring and a waste of time, but apparently complaining it on internet forums isn't.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 7:28PM haas599 said

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I read a post like this and it restores my faith that the gaming community isn't full of idiots.

Great post.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:17PM KinseySS said

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Home is a nice feature, just kind of useless till more features comes out. But a system seller? unless home can cook me dinner in the morning I doubt it will sell systems alone. A price drop will sell systems a lot more than Home will.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 11:02PM (Unverified) said

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Sounds to me like you're shopping for a microwave.. you got the wrong place man, you're looking for maytag.. and who eats dinner in the morning?
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:23PM (Unverified) said

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In the 60% but having to redownload all the areas after the Home went public made no sense. The only change was Central Plaza and a mall change. The Red Bull flying thing might be cool but it comes out next week, maybe. Alot of potential but once again Sony drops another ball. I think Phil should have stayed around a little longer for this one. At least there could have been a PlayStation Store in the mall.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 6:25PM DrunkenShaolin said

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been open 3 days and hacked, so far im not seeing, what sony is seeing, until they lose the beta....and open it fully!!!
its a dance feast chat room where everyone almost looks the same.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2008 7:32PM (Unverified) said

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I got one question for Dan Hill. Where do you buy your crack?

I've logged into Home twice, and It seemed like nothing more than a place to give morons a voice (as if internet message boards and xbox live didn't fill that requirement fantastically already) crossed with a place where Sony could gouge my wallet with the most useless crap I've ever seen.

Seriously, Sony's canceling promising games just because they lack online components and instead sinks money into an app that bores and annoys much, much more than entertains.

Whatever potential this has, it hides it very well.
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