Video: First look at GTAIV's Lost and Damned

Indeed... It seems my dreams for a zombie apocalypse have died with this trailer... Ahh well, it still looks pretty badass and at least one part of the theory was correct... They are bringing the anarchy back in a big way.

It's a well known fact that planes aren't in GTA because of 9/11. Only way you could get them in is if you made, as you say, another land area, then restrict flying in the city. Which is lame.

@Slint: Huh? How "well-known" is that? I've certainly never heard that before, do you have a source?

Also, the original GTA 3 came out very shortly after 9/11. All subsequent releases were obviously post-9/11. If they could have planes in San Andreas, why not in GTA 4? There is no equivalent to the WTC in Liberty City, as far as I know. I thought the reason for no planes was just the geographical size of the city, which determines the scope of the game in many ways.

I don't know about GTA4 and Fable 2 but I've read that Fallout 3 is planning on having about 4 DLC releases within the next year, the first being in January.

Microsoft secured TWO exclusive DLC deals for GTA:IV, so no doubt there will be more at some stage.

That might explain his fondness for a crowbar.

I was just thinking the same thing.

usually DLC = more achievements...
not sure how many achievements would come with this though.

On average each DLC pack for Halo was 250 points.

You didn't expect a whole new city from a DLC pack did you? You also shouldn't judge it before its even out. To add more missions for Niko would be hard and probably wouldn't be as good seeing how the game finished.

Anyway if this includes a good set of length and missions id be happy to buy it.

Yes, I did expect an entire city from the DLC. Oblivion got Shivering Isles, so I don't see why Rockstar couldn't have made a new city (even if it was smaller and had fewer missions). This doesn't seem like enough to me to merit the 20 dollars I would have to pay to download it. I stand by my previous statement 110%.

As for judging a game before I play it, it's kind of a necessity since gaming is an expensive hobby and I can't just go playing each and every game that comes out. Based on my knowledge of what I prefer, no amount of new missions is worth 20$ to me. Sure you supposedly also get new weapons and vehicles (which I don't think is necessary since there is already a great amount of each in the game), new music (which I don't care about since i can just play my own music), and new multiplayer modes, but this (to me) is not really worthy of 20$ when I would really only care about the new multiplayer modes (and that's not even necessarily the case since we still have no idea what the multiplayer additions are yet).

Overall, I feel that the only thing that would bring back my interest in GTA4 would have been a new city, but as I said before, this DLC is very lackluster.

There is no such thing as getting ones fill of zombies.