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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:43PM FredFredrickson said

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They've really taken a page from the neo-con handbook on this advertising campaign. Who cares that the competition is currently doing a better job of being a "movie downloading machine," or if the PSN leaves a lot to be desired - if they market the hell out of it, consumers will be too confused to know the difference.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:55PM Vidikron said

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You expect them to not advertise?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:56PM Dirty said

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I expect them to point out their strengths, not things that the competition can do, and do better.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:59PM FredFredrickson said

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I didn't say they shouldn't advertise... I just think they should focus on improving the service, and then on advertising.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:05PM Vidikron said

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It's not like the marketing department and the people working on the various services are the same people. I really don't see why Sony shouldn't advertise a service they offer.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:23PM Erluti said

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That's precisely why it's good marketing. If you think it's a "Movie Downloading Machine" (or MDM) then when the common man goes to the store he will say, "I guess this system is worth 1,2,3-hundered dollars more because it's an MDM!"
Marketing is designed to train customers to purchase your goods, not provide information on how to make an informed decision.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:49PM Demon G Sides said

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Nice neo-con interjection. Stop being ignorant, EVERYONE markets the shit out of something instead of making it better.

Case in point: PS3, X360, and the Wii. All have shortcomings, but that doesn't mean they stop marketing it.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:49PM kaneda26 said

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hah! what a stupid company...all trying to sell their product.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 4:14PM Vcize said

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I can see Marty's point. Wouldn't you think it kind of weird if MS started advertising the 360's ability to play DVD movies, while the PS3 does optical disk based video much better?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 4:17PM Shagittarius said

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They are trying to appeal to the mainstream, the mainstream has the Wii, which doesn't do movies...
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 4:44PM (Unverified) said

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Marty has a point, but has anyone seen the Xbox 360 ads for Netflix? They feature a creepy girl with a creepy smile as the camera swoops around to the back to find out there's a creepy diorama of a couple watching a movie in her head.

Given that Microsoft didn't really say too much about the service explicitly in their ad, Sony's commercial is much more informative. To the average consumer, people will associate the PS3 with a "movie downloading machine" and the Xbox 360 with a crazy drooling chick.

This isn't fanboyism, this is simple marketing common sense. It doesn't matter who has the features, what matters is how they're promoted. If Sony has an inferior download service, but promotes it better than Microsoft's admittedly superior one, people will associate movie downloading with the PS3 more. I'm just curious how long it will take until Microsoft makes a more informative advertisement in response to this.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 4:36PM kaneda26 said

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"wouldn't you think it weird..."

It is definitely ironic, yes. but working for a big corporation, this type of advertisement isn't surprising to me. They will pick a mass appeal ad like this over a gamer targeting ad because it's the holidays and they want the investment to draw the biggest return. So they aren't gonna concede inferiority of their service to their competition and they aren't gonna appeal to gamers because they think they already tried that and that it wasn't successful enough.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 5:51PM (Unverified) said

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Marty,

If we waiting for Sony to improve on anything they did sub par before advertising I don't think the mainstream would know the PS3 existed.

While I agree Sony should be refining their features, good advertising is something PS3 needs. Badly.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 6:13PM FredFredrickson said

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I can agree with that, but if they focused more on improving the service and the games, the advertising would come freely as people via word of mouth.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 6:46PM chispito said

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Marty, why the hell do you feel the need to make your comment political? Your team won in November, now you can stop with the polarizing crap that occupied you before then.

As for the ad, I see nothing wrong with it. It advertises a way to justify the purchase of a PS3 to a non-gamer. If anything, it downlplays the movie feature. Of course the 360 has it soundly beat, but that isn't the point of the ad.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:45PM OMGOMG said

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Aww Sony. Only 18 months behind schedule. So cute!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:51PM (Unverified) said

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Aww fanboys, holding a bias towards a particular manufacturer.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:53PM OMGOMG said

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I'm not holding a bias at all. If I had the money, I would most certainly own a PS3 as well.

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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:46PM Jayslacks said

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PS3? What's that?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:55PM (Unverified) said

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It's a movie downloading machine. Duh.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:57PM Ordeith said

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It appears to be some new-fangled bittorrent client with a hard drive.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:31PM baby sea tuna said

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And all this time I was led to believe that it would deliver all my gaming desires directly to my brain in 7.1 and 4-D.

Shows what I know.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 4:33PM Mics said

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@baby sea tuna

They dropped the Direct-to-Brain output feature in favor of dual 1080p HDMI outs, which is still pretty awesome.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 2:56PM (Unverified) said

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I went to a department store yesterday and saw a PS3! oh wait, it was a George Foreman grill...
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:51PM kaneda26 said

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heh. i thought it was kinda funny. been a while since I heard the grill joke.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:08PM sk8monroe81 said

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The spot features a 20- or 30-something who justifies his purchase of a PS3 to his skeptical girlfriend by calling it a "movie downloading machine."

wow they really kicked themselves in the butt this time... lol.

at least now even sony is calling the ps3 a movie watching machine... lol.

u think they would concentrate more on games and making gamers believe sony has the best games available.

this is crap.
sony realizes that ms offers more movies on the 360 right? and netflix? lol..

i dont think sony knows what to do with the ps3 anymore....
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:11PM sk8monroe81 said

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affect this ad has on netflix customers? 0%
affect this ad has ps3 HULU users? 0%
affect this ad has on wii fans? 0%
affect this ad has on casual gamers? 0%
affect this ad has in general? NEGATIVE FOR SONY...


so the ps3 is not the blu ray machine anymore???
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:12PM (Unverified) said

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The ps3...a case study in identity crisis!

Who knows what sony will say it can do next?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:12PM sk8monroe81 said

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download service?

i want my damn 50gb blu rays !!!!

in all honesty blu ray was hype and marketing.
i have seen 1 game that has truly needed to use the 50gb blu ray disc, MGS4, and im sure 25gb was sound.

there have been more multi disc xbox 360 games that could have used the power of blu more than ps3 games.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:12PM Vidikron said

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I'll just ask you the same thing as ask the guys above... do you honestly believe Sony shouldn't advertise a service they offer? Really?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:17PM sk8monroe81 said

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vid-
when sony advertising money keeps going down, you think they would concentrate on better ways of advertising.
ie- LBP, socom, r2, god of war 3, motorstorm..

u know the $ 60 games....
u know the games that are franchises that are supposed to sell millions of copies...

and why spend money on something that is inferior to the competition?
netflix ads are very effective, but this is not IMO>
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:17PM cuteSAVAGE said

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Show me this ad in 2006, and we would have purchased a PS3 at launch. I thought it was a pretty cute ad, geared towards both the more casual audience (or even the non-playing audience) and the more core gamer.

E-ffective all around.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:19PM sk8monroe81 said

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vid-
do you honestly feel that sony should not advertise better things about the ps3 instead of this???

nobody bought a ps3 for the download service.
hulu use yes. blu ray yes. games yes.

this is wasted marketing.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:25PM cuteSAVAGE said

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@sk8monroe

You are probably right. Nobody (or at least very few) purchased a PS3 to download movies. This ad is obviously not targeted to people who purchased a PS3, it is targeted at people who might purchase a PS3. It's like Apple marketing iPhone as a gaming device, just more incentive for potential customers.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:27PM jorojoserojas said

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The thing is, though, to be successful now is to appeal to the widest audience. Catering only to gamers would not work, ESPECIALLY considering the high cost of manufacturing the hardware and developing the software.


Advertising the PS3 as a "movie downloading machine" may work in bringing a few of the skeptics around, and they may even rake in the people who aren't aware of the 360/Netflix compatibility.

I don't think this ad campaign would WORK per se, but I do see the reasoning behind it.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:33PM floating coffins said

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Affect or effect?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:50PM sk8monroe81 said

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gotta love the ps3 fanboys DOWNVOTE's:
nice job, sony is watching how much you care...

so as AAA ps3 game releases under perform and get kicked to the side you all welcome this advertising?

i said that sony marketing money should be used in other ways, and that gets downvotes.. nice job.

you people see how it copies MS recent marketing?

see ms is marketing their movie service, but also marketing their games, and their games are not underperforming.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:53PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I think soviet chick's logic makes the most sense. The kid was obviously happy because he got it for the games but it's showing that the console has other strengths that appeal to more than just gamers.

I have been saying for a long time they need to do more to educate the public about what the machine can actually do. This is a pretty good step in that direction. Besides, the commercial was pretty cute in it's own little way.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 4:20PM Vcize said

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"It's like Apple marketing iPhone as a gaming device, just more incentive for potential customers."

No, it's not at all like that. The iPhone IS actually a better gaming device than other cellphones, so it makes sense to advertise that.

This would be more akin to Apple starting an advertising campaign to show how easy it is to type on, or to advertise its awesome external speaker, both of which are inferior to other phones.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 5:49PM (Unverified) said

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PS3 haters aren't what they used to be.How can you guys even call yourself trolls? There's so much reason to hate - LPB release was fucked up,Home sucks,SOCOM is unplayable and you pick on Sony trying to improve service and make more mainstream?

I want you to be gone from this site by tomorrow.Leave and let the big boys handle the flamewars.

...oh and Playstation? Moar like Gheystation! This is how you do it!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:11PM erh said

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I'd like to see them mistakenly play this ad on Canadian television and get sued for false advertising.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 6:51PM chispito said

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For what claim, exactly? It says it's a movie downloading machine. It does that.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 8:26PM erh said

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Not in Canada. Movie downloads are only available in the U.S.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:13PM Vol said

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Movie downloading machine, Blu-Ray player, when does it play games???

Hehehehe...


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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:19PM Mr Khan said

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You laugh, but that's the primary problem. Software is king in this industry. Software sells systems. Not Home. Not Blu-Ray. Not Video-on-Demand.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:55PM baby sea tuna said

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You're right, software is king. I mean, look how well that Wii Sports Player is selling!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 4:30PM Mr Khan said

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Exactly. Nintendo offered up the most compelling software for the masses, and it's kicking ass. Certainly the capabilities of the hardware helped make the software so compelling, but if the Wii ____ series wasn't there, it wouldn't be going anywhere
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 4:40PM kaneda26 said

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@khan

I totally laughed at the word "Nintendo" used in the same sentence with "compelling" and "software".

But I totally agree with your statement because I know you were talking about first party.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:14PM Duke said

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All you seem to do is talk smack about Sony. Its kinda weird. Are you even a gamer by chance?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 3:16PM (Unverified) said

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why would sony change their thoughts on netfix when their going 2 b using blockbusters on demand service?
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