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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 9:46AM samfish said

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Meanwhile, LBP sold less that 350,000 copies Dead Space is less than 500,000 across 3 consoles and poor Valkria Chronicles didn't even sell 50,000 copies.

Sometimes I wonder if I'll even own a videogame console next generation.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 9:55AM Boffo the Sock said

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"Dead Space is less than 500,000 across 3 consoles"

Is this one of those weird things where we count the PC as a console, because I think you may be a bit confused.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:02AM (Unverified) said

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I think game companies have been looking for the casual market for years, and now that they've done it, the hardcore market is suffering.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:08AM samfish said

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That doesn't explain why the 'hardcore' market is ignoring all the games made for them that don't involve military people blowing shit up.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:22AM (Unverified) said

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Well maybe the new "hardcore" is casual hardcore. Call of Duty and Halo are pretty socially acceptable and easy to pick up and play, whereas Dead Space, Mirror's Edge, and LBP will get you funny looks. Now that Activision is releasing sequels on a yearly (or sub-yearly) basis, fps and guitar games are the new sports games maybe?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:29AM Mr Khan said

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slightly outdated data, perhaps? LBP broke a million, last i heard. As did Wii Music. Dead Space is at a million if you compile everything, but around 500k for the two consoles (i couldn't find PC data)
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:40AM samfish said

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Only VG Chartz thinks LBP is over a million. I still think it'll get there eventually, but not yet. It's probably around 750,000 worldwide.
As for Dead Space, there's no WAY it's at a million copies. Last I read about a week ago, it was
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:46AM (Unverified) said

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Don't blame me, I voted for Kang.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:56AM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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CHILDREN, WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED TODAY??

The general public would rather spend money on another Fps game then something else.

CAUSE PLAYING THEM SHOOTAN GAEMS MEANS I'M HARDCORE!!! FUCK THEM CASUAL GAMES!!!!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 11:05AM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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@Turkey

I really want to beat you senseless for your stupidity. Like I said in the previous thread where we were wondering why certain games were doing poorly:

CASUAL GAMING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!! This is another example of the public buying something from a familiar franchise. Is it any surprise that CoD:WaW did well, considering the fact that it's associated with CoD: Modern Combat? This is not anything new, and there is no new "casual hardcore" (and I'm really getting tired of people labeling anything and everything casual. Stop it. It makes you look stupid). There has always been three groups of gamers: Casual, mainstream, and hardcore. This happens every year, the mainstream goes for the franchises they are familiar with (like Halo, Gears of War, and GTA). They don't give a shit about games we hype about here, they only care about games that are the most popular these days. And those are the titles they buy.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 12:53PM KingJD said

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I think it's more than familiar franchises. I buy a lot of games, but I know for me and a group of my Xbox Live buddies, we never have a problem dropping $60 on games that have good multiplayer that will hold us there for months on end....like Call of Duty.

It's difficult to purchase a game for $60 that I may play for 2 days complete and never play again. I live in NYC and gamestop out here gives only $15 for trade-ins no matter how new the game is.
I occasionally purchase single player games if it is something that I must play day one. Most of the time...and this goes for the group of people on my friends list, we wait till they are discounted to get them or use game fly.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 1:00PM 343 Guilty Fart said

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If it makes you feel any better Samfish, I just bought Valkyria Chronicles and am thoroughly enjoying it.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 4:06PM (Unverified) said

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KingofGods has a point, a lot of it has to do with the legs a game has.

Whenever I make a game purchase, I always try to factor in how long I think my gameplay will last, or how compelling a single playthrough will be.

VC and LBP met my criteria. Dead Space (and Mirror's Edge) did not, and I'm sure thats true for a lot of people. I'm sure a lot of people will play/played the games by renting them or waiting for them to get discounted, but as it was said above, spending $60 on a game that will be over in about two days is kind of streatch.

I like that EA produced two great new franchises but its hard to actually justify buying those games at full price.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 6:06PM (Unverified) said

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@ Vegeta:

It's called IDLE SPECULATION. If I want to meditate on the reasons for some excellent games underperforming I had damned well better be able to do it on a videogame comment board without fucking douchebags saying they want to kick my ass. What the fuck is your problem?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 9:53AM cuteSAVAGE said

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Prince of Persia, in 20th?!? I know it isn't exactly the Next-Gen Sands of Time we had been hoping for, but it's still an amazingly satisfying game. I'm baffled.

Perhaps they should have released it alongside Beyond Good & Evil 2...
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:06AM (Unverified) said

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Where are they getting these numbers?
GAF has the OFFICIAL charts, and they look quite different.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345549

LBP has stormed up to No.1 PS3 sales, no.6 combined all formats, and has easily topped a million.
Stop focusing on the increasingly outdated (no online sales?!) NPD numbers, the rest of the world buys games too.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:12AM (Unverified) said

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The proper, official link:
http://www.charttrack.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/archive/index_test.jsp&ct=110032&arch=t&lyr=2008&year=2008&week=50

I have no idea where that MCV list is coming from, and it looks little different than their previous weeks.
Maybe i'm missing something here.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:10AM copa said

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Announcer (whispering): We switched an Infinity Ward title with a Treyarch title to see if these British citizens could tell the difference.

Brit 1: This is bloody good!

Brit 2: Cheerio!

Brit 1: Do you think they'll release another Call Of Duty next year? I'm hoping for more World War II!

Brit 2: Right you are! God save the Queen!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:22AM (Unverified) said

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You DO realise British people don't talk like that? Well the vast majority don't.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:28AM copa said

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Of course they, do. I live down here in Texas, and this is an actual transcript from my gaming session last night:

xFenixKnightx: Yeehaw! I got me this here Hammer of Dawn, and them varmints are runnin' away faster than an armadiller ridin' shotgun in a Tahoe!

copa: You tell 'em, pardner! Seeing you do the roadie run like that makes me want to lasso you and mount ya like a filly!

xFenixKnightx: Now, it's time to haul these critters down to the OK corr... wait, what?
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:35AM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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Copa...you win for the day, Sir. +1
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:46AM (Unverified) said

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:O LMAO!!!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 11:22AM Obienator said

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Pip, pip, hooray! Huzzah and all that!
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:17AM Megadanxzero said

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while Sonic Unleashed went from 33rd to 12th. We'll let that sink in for a few moments.

Aaah, good, it's a bloody good game. Places like IGN and Gamespot that gave it 4.8 and 3.5 are fucking insane...
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 11:23AM Mr Khan said

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Agree. The running stages captured the excellence of Secret Rings, but with somewhat better level design. The werehog stages were very simple as brawlers, but were effective in their simplicity
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 11:49AM Megadanxzero said

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The funniest thing is, even my friend who hates Sonic and has never liked a Sonic game before in his life likes Sonic Unleashed, even the Werehog levels, and actually borrowed and played it quite a bit. It just seems to have become cool for reviewers to rip on Sonic, even if gamers don't actually agree...
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:52AM (Unverified) said

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I'm not surprised. CoD:WaW is a DAMN good game! Really fun too! To me, Treyarch has proven themselves here. Anyone who sais Treyarch just copy and pasted COD4 hasn't really played COD:WaW then. The campaign is incredible. Oh and yes Nazi Zombie mode is SICK!!! Hopefully Treyarch gives us some more maps for it. Activision has 2 great studios at work for them on a great franchise. Smart bastards.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 12:13PM Dirty said

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Your avatar is just a black box btw.

I still think that COD4 is a better overall experience, but I agree that its not copy and pasted. Haven't gotten to zombie mode yet, Im still in the campaign and am stuck with a brand new puppy that wont let me play video games.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 5:44PM (Unverified) said

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Agreed.
Nazi Zombie mode is genius!
SO much fun, me and my mate could play it all day.
And I'm yet to join up with 4 mates co-op over XBL, that would be fun.
Either way, CoD:W@W is great.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 10:55AM Haggard said

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I should point out that Dr Kawashima's Brain Training = Brain Age in the US.
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Posted: Dec 16th 2008 11:00AM Obienator said

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Hmmm, I might have to grab this, while I prefer COD4, Gears 2 has not panned out as well I a wanted to among my friends.
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