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Posted: Dec 19th 2008 2:21PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Dec 19th 2008 3:22PM (Unverified) said

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damn plan A flopped , i told that foo.. err nevermind lol

Actually its good to see these types of things are being busted. Really hurts the market to have phoney carts laying around.

Posted: Dec 19th 2008 2:45PM Covarr said

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Everything in the picture is an R4, or something that comes packaged with an R4.

Actually, it's probably R4 clones, as the real thing hasn't been around for quite some time.

Posted: Dec 19th 2008 2:46PM matthewtc said

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well, i for one feel safer with this 'criminal' behind bars...

Posted: Dec 19th 2008 4:06PM Newfiescreech16 said

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,.. safer?

LOL

I have to of everything in that pic. each of my kids has an R4
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Posted: Dec 19th 2008 6:03PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, those R4 pirates are getting more violent each day...
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Posted: Dec 19th 2008 6:07PM RMM said

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I was thinking the same thing. Those officers must be so proud for getting such a dangerous man off the streets.
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Posted: Dec 20th 2008 12:33AM (Unverified) said

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You guys mock them, but I am proud. I don't want my kids living in a world were such scoundrels are playing various Tetris clones on their so called "flashcarts". Forget worrying about "murder" and "war", they have bigger fish to fry.
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Posted: Dec 20th 2008 1:03AM (Unverified) said

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There are consumer protection laws for a reason.

Some 20 year old selling bootleg games and bootleg R4s is bad news when it eats your or your kid's DS and now you're out a good chunk of money because you just voided the hell out of your warranty.

The less crapflood we have on the market, the better it is for everyone.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2008 2:59PM Rob Bourne said

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Funny, none of that stuff in the picture is illegal. The 'game copying devices', maybe, but R4s and MicroSD readers are both perfectly legal, in the UK at least.

The guy was probably a major ripper/uploader and had every rom going. Or he may have been selling the R4s preloaded with games - which would of course be illegal.

Posted: Dec 19th 2008 4:26PM (Unverified) said

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The "game copying devices" are probably the R4s themselves.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2008 7:42PM bcd said

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I agree, if the 'game copying devices' are the R4's and the USB adapters they have nothing to go on. I doubt he'd need 1800 actual game copying devices anyway, 1 would do lol
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Posted: Dec 20th 2008 5:41AM Rob Bourne said

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Yeah I realised they were referring to the R4s after the Press Release update.

Still, this stuff is legal. The only thing he can probably be done for is if he has every rom available on his computer (or at least more roms than actual games he can claim 'backup' on).

Oh, and to whoever implied that the usage of flashcarts would leave you with a voided warranty, wake up - these things don't void your warranty. Ultimately it's Nintendo's fault for making their hardware so easy to crack and being so slow to do anything about it.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2008 4:49PM (Unverified) said

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I actually work for the HMRC cardiff.

woot woot.

Posted: Dec 19th 2008 6:44PM (Unverified) said

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Those looks like counterfeited ones, I don't mind counterfeiter going to jail, but what is that suppose to do, scare hacker.

Posted: Dec 20th 2008 2:52AM (Unverified) said

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so its ok to endorse buying R4's on dsfanboy, but if you actually buy and sell them, then youre going to prison? im confused. what did the guy do thats so wrong? why are the real manufacturers of these products still allowed to operate while this small time kid gets his life destroyed?

Posted: Dec 20th 2008 5:42AM Rob Bourne said

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Because he'll have been stupid enough to collect and distribute roms - if these are genuine R4s (or other brands), they can't touch him.
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Posted: Dec 20th 2008 6:16AM (Unverified) said

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This is a textbook example of an article designed to spread FUD.

Where does it say that the arrested person had, or sold, ROMs or illegal copies of games? He was selling R4s, which are completely legal. It doesn't specify if they were fake R4s, so we know they were not.
It's up to the buyer to decide what to use it for. If the buyer uses it only for homebrew and backup copies of games he/she owns legally, then the buyer isn't doing anything illegal either.

But the real gem is the part that says that "many circumvention devices actually damage irreparably DS Lite handheld consoles". Takes away all the credibility the article might have had.

Posted: Dec 20th 2008 3:16PM (Unverified) said

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THANK YOU!

This was my exact thoughts on the matter. Flash cart =/= Piracy.

As far as I'm concerned, I don't say someone's a pirate until I see an R4 in their console with a copy of New Super Mario Bros. or something else that is not a home brew software.
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Posted: Dec 22nd 2008 8:17AM (Unverified) said

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Actually, in that case, if that person -owns- an original copy of the game, then that isn't pirating either.
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Posted: Dec 22nd 2008 8:20AM (Unverified) said

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whoops, that was according to my country's laws. I assumed UK laws would be the same but they're not... Sad.
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Posted: Dec 20th 2008 10:18AM (Unverified) said

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"...while the British public lose out because many circumvention devices actually damage irreparably DS Lite handheld consoles. ELSPA advises all gamers, parents and gifters to buy hardware and game software from respectable retailers – offering proper protection for their outlay."
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Yeah, I've seen heaps of flashcarts damage DS units. Gamers, parents and 'gifters', watch out! Little Johnny, irreperable damage will follow if you insert that flashcart into your DS! Ask mum & dad to buy from 'respectable' retailers offering proper protection!

Posted: Dec 20th 2008 12:42PM (Unverified) said

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I still purchase games so I don't care :O

Posted: Dec 20th 2008 1:24PM (Unverified) said

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I don't know who released this Press Release, but I think they won't release another one when the guy himself is released..

Posted: Dec 20th 2008 4:03PM mattwo said

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@#8, you're wrong on one behalf, even if you own the game it's still illegal to have the rom >.>

Posted: Dec 21st 2008 8:32AM (Unverified) said

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actually copying any media is in fact illegal when it comes with the appropriate documentation that says so. DVD and even VHS movies give the warrning at the very begining that "For any reasons" it is illegal to copy the content. I think games have the information in the manuals that come with the software, and posiibly at the very end of the credits. and legally "for any reason" even refers to "backup" copies for your own use.

What makes what he did illegal was the COPYING, and NOT the owning of the machines. Its how "Head Shops" operate, they can sell bongs and crack-pipes, and rolling papers, and you can own them, but doing the drugs themselves is the illegal activity.

Posted: Dec 29th 2008 11:51PM (Unverified) said

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serves him right , he only got what he deserved

well I kinda pity the geezer a bit

Posted: Jan 5th 2009 4:38AM (Unverified) said

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I'm confused, which I'm sure this press release is supposed to do. Is it now illegal to sell an R4 card in the UK, without Roms, or not? After Mr Modchip won his case I thought 'chips' and such devices were legal to sell if you did not sell copyright protected material with them. This article implies it is now the chip that is illegal to sell?

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