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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 6:36PM dynatos said

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The disappearance of split screen bothers me as well. Although I'm really glad that L4D has split screen, I was really irked that it didn't offer a four player split screen. I think L4D would have been PERFECT for four friends to play together on the same screen.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 6:42PM The Kong said

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YEA i was so pissed there was no 4p split screen...that defeats the purpose of the game...however split screen really makes the frame rate drop and everything gets more jagged edges and stuff....
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 8:04PM Premature ejaculation man said

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It always saddens me that splitscreen gets the shaft.

Not all my friends can afford their own 360 and the games we play and its usually great fun to have everyone in the same room going nuts.

Then of course with some games, each of us need an Xbox, Xbox LIVE account, TV, the game for each of us to be able to play in the same fucking room.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 12:04AM Repo Man said

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I was heartbroken when splitscreen multiplayer wasn't included in Duke Nukem 3D. A kickass game with a ton of bells and whistles added...but sadly no splitscreen...
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 6:03AM (Unverified) said

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PDZ has brilliant split-screen. It would be good if more games did.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 8:15PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 12:37PM (Unverified) said

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Thanks. I should have thought of Co-Optimus.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 6:55PM (Unverified) said

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My buddy and I really enjoy the split screen of Call of Duty:World At War. What really sucks is that you have to beat it single player in order to unlock the Nazi Zombie mode. And the fact that they removed some of the missions for split screen.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 11:11PM Sly C said

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you could just go to the credits and leave your 360 on until they're over. it's a heck of a lot faster if you got it for nazi zombies.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 7:01PM (Unverified) said

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The game im really ticked at is Call of Duty. I mean playin with my buddy on the couch, ONLINE, was a hoot, because I always pwn him, but online we worked really good together. But now, its either halo or gears, but COD is both our favorite games! so please release more split screen ONLINE games. plz.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 7:15PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 7:43PM Mexico619 said

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what's wrong with GTA4 getting game of the year??? i thought it was one of the best games that came out this year and deserve's the Spike GOTY award
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 8:05PM MyAbsolution said

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Because it was just GTA3 with HD graphics.

All the new fun vehicles and weapons added in from the previous generations GTA games were removed...

Even the missions were same old same old.

If anything, Saint's Row 2 is way better aka FUN. And yet GTA4 scored an unbelievably ludicrous score of 98 on metacritic.

I was most pleased when Adam Sessler (of that tv show i forgot name to) gave GOTY to Fable 2 and not GTA4 like everyone else.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 11:31PM kamanashi said

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I hated GTA 4 too. It just wasn't fun. I used to like GTA back when I was younger. But now, I like RPGs, FPSs, and RTSs more.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 11:47PM schwal said

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That annoyed me even more. I agree that GTA4 deserves GoTY. But even more I think Fable 2 doesn't. I think it's just getting them because it's more recent. And I have beaten both(Gamertag is schwal).

In order, GTA4, Gears of War 2, Fallout 3, Braid, Rock Band 2, Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2, Left 4 Dead, and Rez HD all got higher Metacritic scores than Fable 2.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 7:26PM (Unverified) said

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Even though you can only upscale using the HDMI and VGA connections, movies still look a ton better using component on an HD TV compared to a standard def tele. However, if you can use HDMI, use HDMI. If not, you still shouldn't be disappointed with Component, and if you are, then the xbox is only a mediocre upconverter anyways. I like the looks of movies on my HDTV with HDMI hookups. Good enough to keep me from ever buying a blu ray player.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 8:51PM Delgadoh said

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For a slightly OT addition to your post, when they say "using the HD DVD player won't give you any upscaling advantages," they're right - BUT, you're less likely to wear out your Xbox's DVD drive if you use the HDDVD addon. The 360's disc drive can crap out if you use it too much.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 9:52PM Jayslacks said

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I agree about the HD DvD part. But, and this might be me, I swear movies look better in the HD DVD player. But that might be me keeping the HD-DVD fires burning. Remember the HD wars? Man, that was awesome. Not really.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 11:29PM kamanashi said

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I still would go with HDMI over Component. To bad I have an older 360 without HDMI. But, I guess that's what my PS3 is for.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 8:00PM Jonman said

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Another vote for more splitscreen. My guess is that the ubiquity of Live has made developers lazy. Back in the day, when splitscreen was the only kind of multiplayer, it was included de-facto.

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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 8:21PM (Unverified) said

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I have a friend who doesn't spend a lot of time reading gaming news. Also, being a recently-graduated student, he doesn't have a huge gaming budget. (Not that I'm exactly rolling in the dough either.) So most of his new gaming experiences come from friends like me coming over with a game to try.

It's a much better experience all around to play *with* than to take turns sitting and watching.

While that's true in any case, in this case it can make or break a sale.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 8:34PM (Unverified) said

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"Another vote for more splitscreen. My guess is that the ubiquity of Live has made developers lazy. Back in the day, when splitscreen was the only kind of multiplayer, it was included de-facto."

Developers lazy? I don't think it would be easy to focus on something (splitscreen) at the expense of others (online, single player mode/missions). When you consider how much time and money going into games nowadays so everything must be cohesive (single, split, online) as a product. Many developers/publishers don't want to water down a product to work for a shrinking fanbase and that's of course the splitscreen crowd. I can't imagine a game selling well nowadays with broken online multi but has great splitscreen.


We all love to be reminded of GoldenEye 4-player...but why did we really like it? Because we didn't know it could get better. Look, alot of people that were hooked on Halo/GoldenEye only played those games, had s*** tv's, were constantly broke thus played all the time, etc. I don't miss those days. Some think by playing GoldenEye they will find the game has gotten better...no, it's gotten worse.

Would I have loved Crackdown co-op splitscreen? Of course. But I'd rather them focus on something I'll use alot more often then something that may be little more than a throwback to the "good ol' days".
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 8:57PM mernmern said

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Personally, I love split screen. I had a buddy over last week and we ran both L4D and GoW2. These games did it correctly. However, Halo 3 did not. I find it hard to even offer it as a worthy suggestion. Bungie crimped the screen size for split screen which made it frustrating to play.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 9:05PM bigd7387 said

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Ok the guy is complaining about not being a pirate so he wants an authorizing system like the PS3 for his downloaded content. I've got news for him, Sony changed the policy to only being able to authorize 1 system for content and not 5 like they had prior. Plus the new restrictions that Sony has put on the DLC is worse than what MS used to have. Just the fact that I can still get my DLC back, even only once a year is fine by me. Go cry elsewhere buddy.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2008 11:09PM rumandgold said

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here's a split screen question.

What's with the f'd up 2 player split screen in call of duty world at war?

Playing on my buddy's 4:3 SD tv was ridiculous, the screens don't take up the full half of the screen, they take up a 16:9 portion of the top half or bottom half, and beside them is an irrelevant graphic of a gun. Who cares if it makes your POV a bit wider or cropped a bit shorter? Just give us half the screen. It's better than losing the res by framing the game ala sega CD.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 12:11AM (Unverified) said

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My 360 is in the same boat with the licenses. I had to transfer them when my old box died but I hadn't been able to migrate my data yet to the new hard drive. So now I can only play Arcade games when connected to Live which sucks in Germany because the internet goes down about once a day.

Also I want to reassure the guy about the migration kit. Mine took a little over a month to get to me. I live in Germany and things usually take slightly longer to get here but it was processed promptly and sent out. I'm sure it will get to him soon.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 12:16AM newmania said

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I bought a 60GB drive to upgrade my Pro and called 1-800-4-MY-XBOX to ask about ordering a migration kit. The guy had no idea what a migration kit was. I insisted that they were real, so he put me on hold to ask his manager.
When he got back, he informed me that I couldn't order a kit because Microsoft does not sell the 60GB drive by itself. Instead of explaining the $99, drive+Live package, I hung up and spent the next hour moving everything over with a memory card. Doesn't Microsoft train these guys?
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 12:39AM d889 said

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one of the main reasons is because the framerate would be terrible if the console had to render the image 2 or even 4 times.

thats why halo is 640p or whatever, hell i dont care it looks great on my 54" hdtv, but thats why it can handle coop (and i notice fps drops sometimes online)

if lots of games toned down the resolution to allow split screen people would bitch and moan that it doesnt look good enough.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 12:56AM (Unverified) said

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"I can't imagine a game selling well nowadays with broken online multi but has great splitscreen."

Does Gears of War 2 ring a bell?
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 2:30PM AJwiese said

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Thanks again you guys. I called support and after only 10 min on the line I was told it would take a week to get here free of charge. Thanks again for the info you guys are the best
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 5:29AM sho220 said

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i don't miss splitscreen and have no wish for it to return. splitscreen was good before there was onilne. i can't stand sharing the screen anymore in FPS games. it just isn't the same experience. if my friends want to play, i let them. i can play my 360 anytime i want so, my friends can run wild. honestly though, what needs to happen is dual output. i have more than 1 screen in my house whether it's a tv or monitor. a console should have two outputs for 2 player experience in an FPS. of course, this probably won't happen for many generations to come but, that is the future of local multiplayer. sharing the screen is evil!
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 8:44AM Deadmeat1240 said

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The 360 upconverts awesomely. DVD's look noticably better. It only works through the digital connections. So HDMI and VGA are the only ones that get the upscaling functionality. Component only gets progressive scanning.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 8:54AM wheeler328 said

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I just ordered a Migration Kit recently by faxing the form and I received it about a week later. I was pretty surprised how fast it came, especially since there was no confirmation that they even received my order. If support doesn't help you, how about just faxing the form or mailing it in again? If they receive a duplicate, the worst they'll do is deny it.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 8:58AM desi k said

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I had a similar problem with the migration kit. I had to request it THREE TIMES! I faxed the first two requests then called the 800 number. I finally got one about a week after I called. Then another one the day after that. And another the following weekend. Total time to receive a kit from the first request was approximately 1.5 - 2 months. It may be possible they ship them in waves. Not a good idea since people want to use their 120s when they get them.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 10:59AM Gemini Ace said

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Left 4 Dead not having 4 player split screen is a complete deal breaker.

And don't say that it has split screen because unless it's 4 player, it doesn't count.
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Posted: Dec 24th 2008 1:56PM ALittleWeeny said

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Halo 3 has the best split-screen by far. You can have another player in campaign with you, you can have 3 other players in Forge, custom games, etc.

The best split-screen support for Xbox.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2008 10:14PM Redeye101 said

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I just got Blazing Angels II from my kids for Christmas and we are having a lot of fun in the co-op mode (2-player only). If you like flying games, I can easily recommend it for the $20 that it costs nowdays.
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Posted: Dec 26th 2008 10:20PM Redeye101 said

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To correct my own comment: you can play 4-player co-op.

Also I really enjoy playing Age of Booty split-screen. It's simple and fun, but keeps the tension up.
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