Well, at least 1UP didn't have to endure this sort of treatment. The owner of enthusiast magazine "Hardcore Gamer" has seemingly decided to bid his hobby-turned-business adieu and ... sell it to the highest bidder on eBay. "We're very well established within the video game industry and are currently enjoying all the respect and recognition that a print magazine gets, that the thousands of gaming web sites may never get," reads the seller's description. "If you want instant establishment in the game industry, you won't find another opportunity as quick and easy to get into as this."
Interested? Well, the magazine -- distributed nationally by DoubleJump Books -- and all its associated copyrights, back issues, internet domains etc. can be yours for the starting bid of $42,000. We've contacted the magazine to confirm the listing [Update: Confirmed!] and possibly suss out a "buy it now" price. After all, what better time to invest in a gaming magazine than ...
Oh.
[Thanks, Adam]
Reader Comments (43)
Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:08PM (Unverified) said
I bet theyr actually just selling that one magazine....crafty fiends..
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Posted: Jan 7th 2009 5:57PM Booxatron said
I remember hearing an account of somebody getting away with selling an XBOX BOX (yeah, just the cardboard) on Ebay for $300. The title was obviously misleading, but if you actually read the description it made it clear that it was just a box. I think it said something like "Imagine the look on your children's faces this Christmas when they open their presents and find a BRAND NEW XBOX BOX under the tree!"
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Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:29PM (Unverified) said
I dunno -- much as it may have been accurate when the auction was posted, I got more chuckles out of "You will be competing with Electronic Gaming Monthly [...]".
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Posted: Jan 7th 2009 5:06PM (Unverified) said
I would be interested in reading your publication sir
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Posted: Jan 7th 2009 5:47PM (Unverified) said
I'm intrested in seeing how long one issue would be.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:25PM AsherR said
"Support/Training: It'll be your choice to use any of our existing resources, employees, consultants, sales people, and management for the transition, or you can immediately install your own staff to take over operations as you see fit, or some combination thereof."
Wow... I wonder how the current staff feel about the way that this was put. Best of luck to the all who are currently working there...
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Wow... I wonder how the current staff feel about the way that this was put. Best of luck to the all who are currently working there...
Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:33PM Shagittarius said
I'm gonnna buy it then post nude centerfolds of hardcore gamers.
Apply now to be a Nerd of the Month.
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Apply now to be a Nerd of the Month.
Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:48PM Esat Dedezade said
This magazine sounds relevant to my interests. + 1 subscription.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:48PM (Unverified) said
allow me to save Shag some time:
CANT YOU READ YOU n00bz? ITS CALLED HARDCORE GAMER! A NINTENDO FAN CANNOT BUY IT BECAUSE NINTENDO IS NOT TEH xXHARDCOREZXx
aaaaaaand scene!
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CANT YOU READ YOU n00bz? ITS CALLED HARDCORE GAMER! A NINTENDO FAN CANNOT BUY IT BECAUSE NINTENDO IS NOT TEH xXHARDCOREZXx
aaaaaaand scene!
Posted: Jan 7th 2009 5:12PM HTCEVO said
@Slime
I think that you just proved you're far from mature. Welcome to the land of Caplock my friend... where everyone thinks you're a dick automatically.
Unless you don't have enough money, in my personal opinion to be a fan of just one system is childish. Grow up and play some games that aren't on your system of choice.. you're missing worlds of great software out there.
Sigh.. kids.
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I think that you just proved you're far from mature. Welcome to the land of Caplock my friend... where everyone thinks you're a dick automatically.
Unless you don't have enough money, in my personal opinion to be a fan of just one system is childish. Grow up and play some games that aren't on your system of choice.. you're missing worlds of great software out there.
Sigh.. kids.
Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:45PM Special Agent Steve said
Do not want to sell. Personal issues have forced this sale. I started this as a hobby and it grew beyond my wildest dreams, but now I have too many personal life issues to deal with, leaving no time for my hobby-turned-business any more. However, if it does not sell, I will continue publishing it, since I really enjoy it.
Wait, he wants to continue to sell it even though he enjoys publishing it. Hmmmm...
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Wait, he wants to continue to sell it even though he enjoys publishing it. Hmmmm...
Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:48PM (Unverified) said
Lets all chip in and buy it. For the gamers by the gamers. If we get 70 people together it will only be $600 each.
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Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:46PM (Unverified) said
Everyone who got fired from EGM/1UP/Gamevideos should buy it, then just market it as "From the people who lived the impossible dream of making Ziff Davis money"
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Posted: Jan 7th 2009 4:55PM Burritoclock said
Not only do you get hardcoregamer.com, but you ALSO get hardcoregamersucks.com!!!!
Now THAT is a deal!
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Now THAT is a deal!
Posted: Jan 7th 2009 5:11PM samfish said
Being that I work in the magazine industry, I suppose I have some insight on this.
You could easily make the $42k back on your first issue in ad revenue even if you only had about 15 advertisers (this is going by the rates our main magazine uses, which are actually probably kind of low, since it's a trade mag).
But you're looking at some pretty steep month printing costs. That's what is killing magazines more than anything else. My guess is you're looking at anywhere from $40,000-60,000 per issue, depending on paper stock, if you're planning about a 40,000 print run per issue.
And then you factor in staff costs. You'd need at least 4 writers and one designer, as well as an accountant. That's probably going to mean you need to generate at least $200,000/year.
So your total raw costs would be around $800,000/year. You could profit off of it, but just barely, if you could pull in at least $70,000 in advertising a month.
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You could easily make the $42k back on your first issue in ad revenue even if you only had about 15 advertisers (this is going by the rates our main magazine uses, which are actually probably kind of low, since it's a trade mag).
But you're looking at some pretty steep month printing costs. That's what is killing magazines more than anything else. My guess is you're looking at anywhere from $40,000-60,000 per issue, depending on paper stock, if you're planning about a 40,000 print run per issue.
And then you factor in staff costs. You'd need at least 4 writers and one designer, as well as an accountant. That's probably going to mean you need to generate at least $200,000/year.
So your total raw costs would be around $800,000/year. You could profit off of it, but just barely, if you could pull in at least $70,000 in advertising a month.
Posted: Jan 7th 2009 5:46PM Courtney said
Yep, even a modest publication eats through money fast.
Hate to bring this up in the wake of EGM/1UP, but the better question is how much revenue does the website bring in. I can actually see a ton more buyers just wanting the copyrights/domains/online content more than a print magazine.
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Hate to bring this up in the wake of EGM/1UP, but the better question is how much revenue does the website bring in. I can actually see a ton more buyers just wanting the copyrights/domains/online content more than a print magazine.
Posted: Jan 7th 2009 5:50PM (Unverified) said
Don't the official Nintendo magazines do that already?
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