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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:10PM Obienator said

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You want money? Money for this DLC after giving us a broken game for half a year? Shove it up your ass Behemoth!
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:23PM SpacePenguinBot said

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Seriously.

It was a great game, but not being able to play online when everyone was actually playing it was a kick in the pants. Then we had the waiting (and waiting... and waiting... with no information) for it to finally come out right in the middle of the holidays when everyone was playing something new. I still haven't played the game online, and I probably never will. They may as well have not fixed it at all.

This game got a ton of hype. The online mode got a lot of hype. The hype justified the fact that it was $15, but I'd say we all payed $5 too much. I'll definitely make sure to wait a week after release and do my research the next time behemoth puts a game out.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:29PM Negatron said

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Im with Obie!
*raises pitchfork and torch*

Yeeah fuckin shit!
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:30PM Erluti said

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What's with people being offended by downloadable content?
People screw up. Software is hard to make. I mean, they put out a patch. What do you want? Do you really want Behemoth to quit developing games that badly?
If you don't want the content, don't buy it. Were you going to buy it even though you don't want it, but decided not to so you could "punish" Behometh?
If you do want it, I feel like you'd be punishing yourself as much (if not more) than Behometh.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:44PM Obienator said

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It's my money and no I won't be spending it on the content, and as a paid customer with a broken game for months I am allowed to voice my opinion.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 3:13PM Erluti said

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I'd love to be a paid customer! It beats being a paying customer!

But anyway, nobody said you weren't allowed to voice your opinion.
And I, in fact, encourage you to only spend your money on things you want. That's what makes capitalism work.

But I just don't understand the opinion. I don't understand why people are insulted when companies release DLC for games they don't like (because it is broken or otherwise). I didn't like "Cheaper By the Dozen". And when "Cheaper by the Dozen 2" came out, I wasn't like "How dare they make more of that movie! Steve Martin is normally funny, and they broke him! Make him funny again before you try to make a sequel to Cheaper by the Dozen!"

Comments like "pass" or "The issues with the original made it so I don't care if they release DLC" make sense. But acting like you are entitled to free DLC for a game that causes you suffering when you play it just seems irrational.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 4:32PM Obienator said

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@Erluti, You misspelled "Behemoth" twice yet you make fun of my spelling. Hmm.

Anyways. I would have gladly paid for the DLC if my experience with the game would have been better.

It is like being at a restaurant, your food is served cold, the service is slow and the waiter is a snooty douche. Hence, I will leave a lousy tip and tell my friends to avoid it like the plague.

Now had the manager of the restaurant apologized and refunded me my money, I would give the place another chance.

Offering the DLC for free would have been a enormous gesture of goodwill and mended some bridges IMO.
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Posted: Jan 14th 2009 12:20AM Courtney said

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Obie, I suggest you direct your ire at Microsoft then and not at Behemoth. According to their official post on it, they suggested the content be free, but that it is Microsoft's final decision on DLC pricing and they chose to put the $2 price tag on it.

http://devblog.thebehemoth.com/?p=516
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:12PM Courtney said

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I'd love to see a campaign expansion, more levels please!
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Posted: Jan 16th 2009 8:24PM zx3junglist said

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Nope, just new playable characters and followers:

"Add to your arsenal of good with 2 new playable characters plus additional weapons and animal orbs. There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/Live/accounts."
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:21PM Obienator said

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Die bot die!
-1 lightning bolt!
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:27PM Temidien said

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I really wanna download this but I don't want to connect my 360 to Live until after I finish Fallout (there's a few exploits I may or may not exploit in the near future that the patch fixes). Yes, I know I can still do CC stuff without patching F3, but its a huge bother unplugging and replugging my ethernet everytime I switch games.

/bitchy-rant-that-you've-all-done-before
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 2:10PM Otimus said

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When it asks you to update Fallout 3, you could just say no. It'd disconnect you from Live, but it wouldn't stop the game.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:41PM Punkrawk Bbob said

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You do know it gives you the option to patch games, right?

So if you load Fallout 3 and there is a patch available, it disconnects you from Xbox Live saying that a patch is available. If you opt out of patching, it just keeps you logged offline.

Also, if you ever do patch a game and want to unpatch it, you can clear out your hard drive's cache. In settings under memory hit XXLRXX and it asks you if you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox. Select yes and it deletes all patches you ever downloaded and other random stuff stored in the cache.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:55PM doreo said

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65650420

"lightening bolt! lightening bolt! lightening bolt!"

What about Infamous? I kid I kid!
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 6:04PM Temidien said

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Haha, thanks guys. I actually didn't know about that, I usually just patch without questions, I didn't know you could stop it. Good advice.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:31PM (Unverified) said

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More levels would be nice
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:38PM (Unverified) said

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its not a bot. just a really annoying person
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:40PM (Unverified) said

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oh, and...

lightening bolt! lightening bolt! lightening bolt!
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:42PM Zertoss said

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...

Are you guys wadding up tissue paper and throwing it at your monitors each time you say "lightning bolt!"?
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 1:47PM (Unverified) said

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Actually, not it doesnt give you that right.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 2:09PM (Unverified) said

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No, are you?
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 2:11PM TRTX said

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Wait...we're not actually supposed to hurl lightening bolts?

Well, then I've got some explanining to do to my IT rep.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 2:13PM Zertoss said

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"No, are you?"

It wouldn't be sanitary for me to throw my wadded up tissues around, so no.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 2:36PM Vcize said

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Wait, so have they released the patch to fix the online stuff yet? Somehow I missed that or don't remember it, if so.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 2:49PM (Unverified) said

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yes, there has been an update.

I would copy + paste a link, but for some reason, joystiq is not allowing me to use the "paste" function
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 2:50PM darkinchworm said

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Day before Xmas, yes.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 2:59PM Zertoss said

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"but for some reason, joystiq is not allowing me to use the "paste" function"

That's odd. Is it just on Joystiq or can you not paste anywhere? If the latter is the case, your clipboard (assuming you're running Windows) is probably fubar'd. Rebooting will fix it.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 3:45PM (Unverified) said

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http://www.joystiq.com/2008/12/24/castle-crashers-title-update-now-available-finally/

Seems to be working now. I copied/pasted something else to another website that worked.

I guess it just stopped working in that instance. weird
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 3:18PM (Unverified) said

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NOTHING BUT ANGER AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



nah i really don't mind.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 3:29PM dishwasher said

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Cheap but not free..
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 4:35PM Zamzoph said

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I smell a Catch-22 reference...
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 4:47PM (Unverified) said

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Yes! But wasn't the character named Major Major Major?
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 5:04PM Zamzoph said

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Yes, but his rank was Major. Permanently.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 6:06PM (Unverified) said

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Ahhh...man, I really need to sit down and read that book again.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 4:35PM Snowblind said

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I love the game, and since I've only played it offline I've never experienced any problems.. But I'm not paying for content that we know is already in the game.

It's not even ALL the content, where are the new animal orbs, etc?
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Posted: Jan 14th 2009 8:25AM Keithustus said

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How do you know they're not included? I've yet to see a description of what is in the "King Pack".
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 5:05PM Erluti said

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But I spelled it correctly once!
Sorry, "paid costumer" is a pet peeve of mine. Even the person I know who is a secret shopper (and could use the term) doesn't use it.
Also, your spelling is fine- I never took it upon myself to correct it.

But besides my being petty -

"Offering the DLC for free would have been a enormous gesture of goodwill and mended some bridges IMO."
Is something no one will disagree with.
BUT!
In the same scenario of the restaurant, you responded by telling people not to go and not returning to the establishment yourself. You also showed your dissatisfaction by not spending your dollars.
In the restaurant you didn't yell "Hey restaurant, shove it up your a**! How dare you not give me free dessert!"
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 5:08PM (Unverified) said

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Oh no it took a development studio of 5 people 4 months to patch a game that had a 3 year production. Now they're asking for $2 of my money for a wealth of new content.

I won't stand for this. Instead I'll sit down and eat my $2 cheese burger.

Which brings me to another thing, cheese burgers are too exspensive these days.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 5:35PM Professor Lario said

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Wendy's 3conomics! 3 for the price of $3! Oh SNAP!
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 6:01PM ludwigk said

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I think a 'wealth of content' is a far stretch. For a $2 DLC patch, it's going to just be some characters and weapons. If it was anything significant (maps, scenarios), it would have gone for more.

Given that I couldn't stomach finishing the game more than maybe half a dozen times (not even enough to unlock all the characters), I don't see how more toons will win my money.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 6:12PM ludwigk said

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In fact, here is the patch content from behemoth's blog:

New Characters!

* Open Faced Gray Knight
* King

New Weapons!

* NG Lollipop
* NG Gold Sword
* King’s Mace (equipped with the King)

New Animal Orbs!

* Pelter (Seal)

New Magic

* King’s Healing
* Gold Knife
* Healing Magic
* Kingley Jump
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 5:21PM (Unverified) said

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Did they ever get around to fixing the broken online, and crash bugs that was causing profiles to be corrupted?

Got through half the game earlier this year, it crashed on me and I had to start from scratch. Needless to say, I haven't played it since.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 6:05PM ludwigk said

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a patch was released on Christmas Eve. I haven't bothered to install it or check it out. My experience with the game has basically come to an end. It was a relatively good experience, I got to play a lot of local coop w/ my GF.

Due to all the known issues I didn't get any online play in, which was a major selling point in getting us to buy the game, since I have some friends on the opposite coast that we were going to coop with. The patch took way too long to go live, and we were essentially ripped off.
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Posted: Jan 14th 2009 8:27AM Keithustus said

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Yes, CC has gone through a resurgence of online play since the xmas eve patch. I only played it locally before then, and rarely, but now that it's WORKING like it should have been online, I've put probably 100 hours in online. It works, and it's fun. Give it another try.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 7:07PM (Unverified) said

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Dear MS and Sega, where the fuck is OutRun Online Arcade??? kplzthx.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2009 7:22PM (Unverified) said

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How on earth was this game released with the multi-player bugs? Did none of their testers try Live co-op? It is a co-op game after all. Did they figure they could make some quick cash and just try to patch before too many noticed? Honestly, they didn't catch the massive network bugs during testing?

I got this game on launch, but won't be rushing to get any Castle Crashers DLC. Once bitten, twice shy. [Not that I think the DLC will be broken, but because I've already paid Behemoth 150% for 50% of a game.]
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Posted: Jan 14th 2009 5:53AM Nmaster64 said

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Can I get this DLC without patching?

I refuse to let them take away my boomerang...
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Posted: Jan 14th 2009 8:28AM Keithustus said

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Download the DLC then delete the patch information. I'd give you 50/50 that it works after that.
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