DS Daily: $179.99

Sounds fair. That's pretty much exactly what Japan's DSi was priced for.

Only in USD. :D

Nintendo, you're havin a laff?

Actually, it's not exactly what it was in Japan, It's a great deal lower.
18 900 Japanese yen = 208.5804 U.S. dollars

However, that's not low enough as it's still not different enough from the DS lite to warrant another purchase.

When i see, what Dsiware has to offer, i'll make my final decision then, though i still may wait for a price drop.

I don't feel a need for this until something groundbreaking comes out for it. I can wait for the price to drop while I continue to enjoy DS games as well as play Drill Dozer with my GBA slot.

Though I am curious as to how much smaller it is. My DS Lite is a bit bulky in my pocket.

When i see what dsware has to offer i'll make my decision then, though i still may wait for a price drop anyway.

If the DSi doesn't have the hinge crack problem, then it's totally worth it.

If it does have the same hinge crack problem as the DS Lite, then FAIL.

I'll sell my lite and get this one, then I finally can take my DS outside without being too ashamed of it.

i think 180 is a little too much for a dsi. it should be around 160-170. i mean, there is a lot of new stuff but 180? its a lot for just a portable system. i mean, if they include stuff with it, then 180 would be good. but if its just the system alone with the charger, the price has got to drop.

Might be worth buying if i can get a decent deal on trading in a DS for a DSi

I have bought 4 DS Lites because of the cracking at the hinges. I have used nerf covers to help protect them but they still crack from normal use. I do think the new price is a little too high. Especially since you can't play your old games on the new machine. I am not sure the added stuff is worth the difference.

Probably slightly too high for the DSi. If they could drop it down to at least 20 bucks, I may purchase it.

But I feel that I may need to buy one anyways. That DQ case....ahhhh, I needs it!

If they hope to sell it at $180, they're going to have to explain why it's so great. I've yet to hear anything that convinces me that it's worth the upgrade.

I've bought a total of 3 "phat" and 2 Lite DSes, for myself and as gifts for family. One of the phats got a cracked hinge but both Lites have been fine.

As for the DSi.... what new features really justify an extra 50 bucks? 2 cell phone cameras from 2002? A buck or two each at most. A quarter gig of flash? You can't buy anything that small anymore, but if you could, it'd be about a dollar. 8 extra megs of RAM? Well, I just bought a gig of fast RAM for 30 bucks, so do the math, and it doesn't make up for taking away my ability to use my slot 2 flash card's 32MB of RAM for Linux and homebrew. An online store? The DSOrganize homebrew database demonstrates they could have done that with the DS already. And with the possibility of forced online firmware updates locking down the system further, it provides far less value as a general-purpose portable computer than the DS Lite does. But my 14-year-old niece just got her fourth camera and third iPod, so for her demographic (at least those who don't have iPhones or iPod Touches) it's probably a nice little upgrade.

The DSi is a non-starter for me, and would be even if it were $129. I see it as the first sign of a return to the stagnation caused by Nintendo's dominance in the late 80s to early 90s. If its processor, 3D or even battery life were beefed up, I might have been interested, but they're not. I look forward to getting a black DS Lite for 99 bucks when they inevitably drop the price, though.

Alrighty, so I assume that I am the only person going to buy the DSi? I don't understand why people keep bringing up the fact that they have a DS or DS Lite and don't want to give up the GBA slot. Hey guys, I have a secret: You can *keep* your older DS as well

I'm still using the DS Phat that I got in 2004, maybe I'm just stubborn, but I'm not paying money to just get a barely upgraded system, I won't buy a new handheld until they make a DS that plays all new games, I'm not paying $180, that's $30 more then I paid 5 years ago for the same system.

Hi, long-time reader, first-time poster, just bought a DS Lite a week ago. :-)

It's worth noting that at its current price, the Lite sells like hotcakes. Reason I had to wait until last week to buy my Christmas-present Lite---it was sold out at every major retailer for weeks after Christmas. Zero product in the channel (Walmart, Best Buy, Circuit City, Gamestop, etc). So the demand is there.

Look at the recent rumors about PS3 and 360 price cuts. Nintendo's statement about the Wii: "No, demand is too high. We'll keep the price the same."

So it makes perfect sense to raise the price on the DSi. Adding extra features may be an excuse for Nintendo to get the price more in line with what the market will bear (since people would freak if they took the current model and raised the price $10-$30). Fact is, they underpriced both the Wii and DS Lite, and they know it.

For me, the price is a non-issue since I'm happy with the Lite and wanted the GBA compatibility. ^_^

I think we are underestimating it's capabilities.......

A GBA Micro costs $60?
Is it not safe to assume then, that the GBA they stuck into the DS is worth around $40?

If that's the case, removing it would lower the cost of the system to $90.

And what else is even left? An SD slot and new Firmware. For double the freaking cost.

But how much do those cost? And are they necessary for a brand new system?

No, since they could have easily released DSWare as a DS-Cart with an SD slot, like most Homebrew carts. The price is still $90 too much.

The only other thing added to my knowledge was the Ram needed for the DS Browser. Problem is, that only costs $20, or less if we're talking about manufacturing costs. $110. Less than the original DS's cost, for sure.

Nintendo is ripping you all off, and I'm not paying for one.

That sounds about right, but I've got other things on my to buy list this summer that are a bit higher on the list like a PS3. And maybe and iPod Touch. Whether or not I get this depends entirely on how much money I actually end up making this summer

Haha, I mean 20 bucks off the original price. So for $159.99 I may.

I think for the better wifi capabilities it's worth $180. Supporting b/g, WEP, WPA and WPA2. C'mon now.

I've paid more for a handheld I've used less.

I'll be picking up a DSi at launch.

"Is $180 too much for a DS, even when it's a cool new DS? "

Yes.

Im SOO getting it for my birthday (April 21!)!!!!!!

For $180 it doesnt warrant my purchase of one. My Lite works just fine, and the features they added are not life changing or even must-haves..

I say $130-140 to be reasonable, especially when by now the cost to manufacture them is even lower.

I think Nintendo is making a bit too much off the price vs net cost to manufacture these things.
Either way I still wouldnt get one. Its just the same thing, this is honestly Nintendos way to milk the DS line a bit further. I rather they continued with the Lite untill their next handheld gets announced a yr or 2 from now.

I find it odd that most people say the DSi is useless because of homebrew on the DS, most DS owners don't use homebrew at all.

I see the DSi as moving developers and consumers closer to the next generation. Removing the GBA slot so more DS games will be compatable with the DS2 (assuming they do stick with the screen set-up of the DS), getting people more used to using an online store, letting developers learn a bit about developing for the sd card, and seeing whether or not the camera will be useful enough to be put into the next handheld.

I'll probably get one this year if they do cost $180 or less, I was planning on finally getting a Lite this summer since there was no release date for the DSi but if its out by then, I'll get it instead (unless the lite drops in price by $30).

Since I'm not rich, I won't be getting this. My 2 year DS Lite is still in working condition; no hing cracks, touch screen is still good, the L shoulder button is a little wonky, but that's the only problem. I was thinking of getting it if it was around 150, but I'm not putting up 180 (probably around 200 for us in Canada) for some minor but interesting upgrades. If it does drop in price, I'll consider it again, but not now.

Considering I paid 199.99 for my ds phat, i don't think its too bad. If im going to get a smaller ds i might as well get one with more features.