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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 10:44AM (Unverified) said

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I used these the most:

VNDS - for reading Japanese visual novel games such as Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night.
ScummVM DS - Playing Monkey Island 1 & 2 on it.
Video Game Hero
Still Alive DS

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 11:06AM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 11:09AM Bowser Rogozhin said

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People only use these devices to steal off the hard work of legitimate men and women in the games industry. The case is simple. Head over to GBA Temp and you'll see that it's a hotbed of piracy. That place truly is the Somalia of the video games landscape.

Nothing against legitimate homebrew, might I add. Hell I have a guy who constantly harps on and on about community that the GP2x supposedly enjoys. But people, at their base, are liars. He, like many others, talk constantly of Mega Drive roms and nothing more. That's not homebrew, that's regular old piracy.

This site should just refrain from this sort of talk. You can't have dialogue with the overpriviliged and eternally jaded, they lack the nuance of feeling and, more often or not, they've been raised by poor parents. That's more a societal issue. Anyway, like that famous saying 'everybody thinks they have the prettiest wife,' let's not kid ourselves; the DSfanboy audience is not above this criminality.

You see how the decimated the PSP landscape is? Do you really want that dust on your hands, DSfanboy?

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 11:29AM (Unverified) said

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Wouldn't all the stuff you're talking about be why it's good to represent valid homebrew? If people are going to use these devices then shouldn't they be shown and given the legitimate options to do so?
I'd have thought this item would discourage piracy if anything.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 11:58AM (Unverified) said

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Bowser. Rule #25. Look it up.

gbatemp is not a HB site. Try gbadev next time. Ask them about piracy.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 12:07PM RupeeClock said

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No shit, people use flash carts to steal games.
I personally don't, I buy my games and play my homebrew.

Still, geez, can it with your moral crusade, the subject here is HOMEBREW.

You seem to forget that DSfanboy, PSPfanboy, and the other Systemfanboy blogs are all part of Joystiq.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 12:14PM Bowser Rogozhin said

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"You seem to forget that DSfanboy, PSPfanboy, and the other Systemfanboy blogs are all part of Joystiq."

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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 12:19PM Sangor said

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let's not kid ourselves; the DSfanboy audience is not above this criminality.

So you pirate a lot then?

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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 12:30PM Bowser Rogozhin said

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That's an awesome catch, Sangor. I'm proofreading at the job right now and wouldn't have spotted that. Well, not this late in the day anyway. A winner is you.

"let's not kid ourselves; most of the DSfanboy audience is not above this criminality."
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 12:46PM (Unverified) said

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@Bowser

I own an R4 v1 and a CycloDS as well as eleven retail games, most of which I played before buying thanks to my flashcarts. So yes, people can and will "steal". This was originally a homebrew topic and piracy wasn't even mentioned until you started sniffing around. You speak of people stealing the "hard work of legitimate men and women in the games industry" yet you completely belittle the lowly homebrew developers. But I guess their time and effort doesn't matter.

The fact is, these homebrew devs need as much publicity as possible. Some of the work that they've done, despite some having a full-time jobs as well, is incredible. But you seem to think it's a good idea to stifle their hard work with an absolutely asinine comment that took what, two minutes for you to type? *shakes head*

Anyway...

My favorite applications are: DSLiveHotspots, DSAIM, IRCds, ATYA, BeUp (doesn't seem to work anymore.), Mario Paint Composer, nesDS, and Colors.

Favorite Games are: Still Alive DS, Take the Eggs, AmplituDS, and Crocodingus.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 1:01PM Bowser Rogozhin said

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Notice you were the one who used the word 'lowly' to describe these homebrew developers. To pontificate about me belittling a section of the gaming community, only for you to make an awful slip of the tongue such as that, is simply absurd.

There were two references to homebrew developers; one obscure, one blatant. Both involve repetition of the same word. The latter is fact, as in I have an acquaintance who testifies the virtues of the GP2x homebrew community, but all he's been able to muster so far is a Linux system capable of running a Mega Drive emulator rather splendidly. The former reference, well, let your own prejudices guide you there.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 6:23PM (Unverified) said

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Guys just stop responding to him
He's being a troll and/or refuses to listen to us
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 3:14PM Unvrfd said

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Pocket Physics
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 3:59PM (Unverified) said

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Ooh, forgot to mention that one. Seconded for its awesomeness!
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 7:27PM kamanashi said

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I love Pocket Physics. But I think Black Jack of Haruhi Suzumiya beats everything. :)
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 12:00PM (Unverified) said

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Legit homebrew? Such a thing exists? What am I gonna do with all these roms of Super Mario World????
NOOOO

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 1:20PM (Unverified) said

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- I always keep ColorsDS on hand. If I forget to bring a sketchbook, it's the next closest thing to scribble in.
- Also DSReader for e-books. Alternately I'll use DSOrganise (nize?) for that as well.
- Gamewise, Powder and Still Alive.
- I would recommend Nitrotracker for those who want to create music, although you should do a little research on how to compose it beforehand.
- nesDS.

Posted: Jan 20th 2009 7:28PM (Unverified) said

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I didn't know about Colors DS until I read this post. I tried it out and it's awesome!
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 1:30PM Covarr said

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There's a clone of Tetris the Grand Master 3 on the web, a bit difficult to find for legal reasons, but one of the best homebrews on the system.

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 1:44PM (Unverified) said

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I don't own a flash cart, I'm technologically impaired and I fear that if I tried to load homebrew on my cart I would do something wrong and break my DS. ehehehe. (even with instructions, something would go wrong) I also don't know where to buy them (offline).

Some of the homebrew actually sounds very interesting, I always enjoy the coverage DSFanboy gives it. Thanks for your hard work. :)

Posted: Jan 20th 2009 2:31PM (Unverified) said

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They're basically impossible to find not online (unless you live in Japan). They are totally safe to use though, and not too hard to set up. A good place to get one is nxpgame.com.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 1:45PM (Unverified) said

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Put my DS down a few months back, starting final year in college and there were desktop issues, but I picked it up again a few months back and I still find Animanitee the most engrossing piece of home brew.

Would love to hear about some new stuff instead of the same tired ass rants about piracy. Off topic posts should be deleted before you end up with some ass hat on a rant. Why don't they just post somewhere relevant about something that actually killed someone. Yarr

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 2:26PM (Unverified) said

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Has anyone heard anything re: status of the Cave Story or Knytt Stories DS ports? Still hotly anticipating those...

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 4:15PM Asok said

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All Cave Story fan projects have been halted at Pixel's request. After the Wii port comes out, maybe we'll see the DS version some time after, but who knows? As for Knytt Stories, well, I don't even know anything about that.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 3:24PM (Unverified) said

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I play the PSP versions, but I am fairly certain that a lot of rogues are ported to the DS.

Nethack is awesome.

My favourite is Powder, though.

And isn't there an extreme alpha of ToME ported to handhelds, or am I just making that up?

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 4:15PM Asok said

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Only a few posts in and the anti-piracy patrol steps in to damper the fun. Woo boy.

Anguna has been DS-icized recently, and is quite a good little Zelda-style game, if anyone's into that.

I'm pretty big on Lameboy and nesDS for emulators, and VGHero, POWDER, Warcraft Tower Defense, A Touch of War, and Tetris: TGM for games. Also the 2.5D FPS's (Quake, Doom, Duke Nukem 3D, etc) have been ported and lack mentioning, as well as Commander Keen. I sure wish the StarCraft port didn't get C&D'd.

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 4:33PM (Unverified) said

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All homebrew is garbage. . .

All of you people who openly admit to having flash carts should stop pirating and actually buy games. . .

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 5:51PM (Unverified) said

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Some people enjoy things you do not.

Accept it. Move on.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 4:39PM (Unverified) said

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colors rules.
My_Life is kinda cool, as is geographica, and the SIP phone app for talking on the DS overseas.
Jenesis is a decent emu as well.

Homebrew is awesome, I openly admit to having a flashcart, how else am I gonna run linux on my DS? and I buy my games.
Anyone who dismisses an entire library of software without ever trying it is just ignorant.

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 5:53PM (Unverified) said

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Linux, you say?

That's it. I'm buying a flash cart.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 4:50PM (Unverified) said

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All this, and no mention of OpenTyrian? ;_;

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 5:58PM (Unverified) said

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I love OpenTyrian! It is my fav, the DS needs more shmups!

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 6:17PM (Unverified) said

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That Colors app.
I don't have a tablet and I stink at dawing with a mouse and so my DS has been replacing my irl sketchbook (it's running out of pages) and I find I'm really getting the hang of using it. And I find that Otacon alarm clock very amusing.

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 6:58PM Shoyz said

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My favorite would have to be PortalDS.
: D

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 6:31PM MarkShark said

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I'd always keep rickroll.nds on my flash card renamed as The Best Game Ever.nds. Last year I got my friend on his own DS, in the middle of gym class. Golden.

My flash card broke recently though. But oh well, atleast I go out of my way to buy worthwhile games. *Chrono Trigger*

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 6:36PM dditto74 said

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I'm surprised I haven't seen any love yet for ComicBookDS. It's my favorite homebrew application, although it's legality is somewhat questionable since one of the only ways to get comics to read on it is to download them off the Internet.

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 10:34PM (Unverified) said

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Second that!!!!!!

Also I would like to add:
Pôwder: the one and only rogue game i have played. Love it!!!
Open Tyrian FTW!!
MoonShell... Of course... Kinda obvious.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2009 2:03AM (Unverified) said

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It will take some time for me to forgive myself for not thinking of CBDS. :(

To myself- I am so so sorry, me.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2009 7:45PM (Unverified) said

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im all about homebrew! no illegal roms over here!

ds homebrews:
anguna - zelda style homebrew
megaetk - megaman style homebrew
aliensds - 1st person shooter, great graphics still in development. first level done.
super smash bros. rumble - still in development, currently being completely recoded so hopefully that turns out great.
whee! - spacecraft racing game, pretty freaking great!
ihalo - work in progress.. still really glitchy..
fandian - great graphics still in early development so theres not much to do besides walking around. but looks promising.

just a few.

Posted: Jan 18th 2009 11:43PM (Unverified) said

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homebrew games looks cool.
but im just afraid that it may corrupt my DS.
read alot of materials that says some homebrew games when inserted into the flash card will corrupt the DS system. true?
But i really want to try the Tetris Grand Master game.

Posted: Jan 19th 2009 1:54AM (Unverified) said

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I heard similar stories about the R4 when I first got into the flashcart world.

I can tell you it's not true.

I bought an R4 last June. I've since bought an Ez Flash +, an EZ Flash 3in1 expansion, an Acekard, and I gave my R4 to my cousin. My DS was not corrupted or bricked by the flashcart.

Now I have heard some stories about possible bricking by using the wrong firmware for some flashcarts (EZ firmware for R4 cards, for example), but I might have the story wrong.

Either way, you really should get one. You'd be doing yourself a massive favor.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2009 1:58AM (Unverified) said

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"My DS was not corrupted or bricked by the flashcart."


or any homebrew games, i should add.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2009 12:46AM (Unverified) said

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I use all of these on a regular basis....

Apps:
Colors
Sniffbox (Happy WiFi song! Useful for finding hotspots)
DSOrganize
DSMaps
DSTwitter (though this seems to not be working now)
DSReader

Games:
Wordup
Still Alive DS
Game Melody Oratorio V1 and V2
Mario Paint Composer
Sliding O'Mania
Grow RPG
Negative Space
WordFind DS

Posted: Jan 20th 2009 12:31PM (Unverified) said

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Ah! Game Melody Oratorio! I took the songs from piano and learned to play them on my guitar! Best Homebrew ever...new versions need to be made asap.

Also, I play everyextenDS too often to exclaim, though I don't really understand it...
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Posted: Jan 19th 2009 1:47AM (Unverified) said

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To hell with piracy. Let pirates play the soulless games, I'll gladly take NeoDS and Powder any day. I haven't learnt the ins & outs of Faangbang (or w/e), but I'd have to say that Powder is by far the best game (to me) for the DS. Better than any commercial load of crap.

Posted: Jan 19th 2009 3:09AM (Unverified) said

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Shameless self-promotion alert!

Just released my new DS homebrew game...

SNOWRIDE DS!

It's a wintery themed, touchscreen based, high score attack style cute-em-up. :D

You can grab it from http://nyarla.gazaxian.com

Posted: Jan 19th 2009 10:22PM (Unverified) said

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Hey! You made Magnetic Shaving Derby! That's a fun DS homebrew game!
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Posted: Jan 19th 2009 3:28AM (Unverified) said

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Sweet, I'll have to check out the Snow game.

You know, after reading the comments today, I have seen the homebrew emulators pop up quite a bit. Even dsfanboy had a spot about the homebrew emulator neods (or the neo geo emu), and I had a question:

If I own for example, my NES games/roms, is it wrong to emulate them on another device the software wasn't originally intended for?

Like in my above example, I run nesds on my DS, and I use roms that I have bought not once, but twice! I bought the games for the original NES and then I bought them for the Gameboy Advance (you know, the GBA nes classic series).

I use the nesds emulator on my DS so I can play them all off one card, instead of trying to lug around my armfull of GBA cards.

Anyway, I'm not trying to start another flame war here.

It just confuses me where the line is between legit homebrew and illegal comes to play, because there are obvious lines and then blurry ones.

Because I have read places online that seem to indicate that we as owners of software are not entitled by the copyright laws to modify software or use it on devices it wasn't originally intended for.

I don't know if it just depends on where you live or what?

I think if you own the games, its okay to emulate them on other devices, but I don't know what Nintendo would say about it?

What about ports of pc games to ds? Is it okay as long as the code was written from the ground up? Even though it plays/looks/sounds just like the original?

Now it is clear to me playing original homebrew games are completely legit.

It is clear to me that playing commercial roms you didn't pay for is wrong.

But what about dumping your own NDS roms to a flash cart? Is that okay since you bought them? Or is some type of infringement still in effect?

Just wondering, and I realize that perhaps this isn't the place to ask. But the article brought up these questions in my mind.

Posted: Jan 19th 2009 9:07AM Nightwish said

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I think your confusing legality with ethics. While they are mostly similar, they can be very far apart, especially with regards to Intellectual Monopolies.
In general, these days you can do whatever you want to what you buy, with a couple of exceptions: no distribution and no breaking of DRM. But even those can be legal in sane places.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2009 3:51AM (Unverified) said

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homebrew developers should be given the appropriate acknowledgement for their hardwork in creating a game that everyone can enjoy. with limited resources, they are still able to produce a quality game. just dont lock yourself up in your room, if you know what i mean....
will try that tetris grand master now..

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