Rockstar: No GTA IV follow-up coming before holidays '09

uh Ludwig, whats with the italics?

that was odd, italics are gone now

They, unlike us proles, have an edit button.

I don't think that believing rumors is fatal (unfortunately).

I didn't believe it, but I think your statement far exceeds the stupidity of anyone believing the rumor, considering they had churned out GTA sequels quicker than that several times before.

i didnt feel it was out of the realm of possibility looking at their history and based on the fact that they already have a very solid engine to build another game upon. dont tell me you dont remember Vice City and San Andreas already?

Sorry bout those hurt feelings.

Don't forget the chavs.

"GTA5" ^^^ name fail ^^^

Very likely. GTA sells like hotcakes and if they don't get another one out in 2010, they would probably only manage 2 this console generation.

GTAV: GOTY 2010?


There.


Its that any better Inect?

nope still said 5.

I don't care somewhat, due to the fact it is centered around motorcycles...

Unless they tweaked the game mechanics, riding a bike was one of the more frustrating things i found in GTAIV. Hey i got it! For DLC, lets focus on a "Biker Gang!"...(oh jezus).

i was gonna re-buy GTA IV on 360 if the DLC looked good enough, but it hasn't excited me. maybe the 2nd set of DLC will do it for me.

plus i tried to play GTA IV the other day to get the Trophies but i just really wasn't having fun with it anymore.

I will pay for whatever they make.

modern warfare 2 ?
gran turismo 5 if it drops ??
a mario/zelda game ??
halo 3 expansion pack ?

I believe this title is destined for StarCraft 2.

I don't hate Halo, but I think an expansion pack doesn't deserve GOTY. Maybe expansion of the year...

Let's just see what Nintendo has up their sleeves this year, as well as if Gran Turismo 5 makes it in time, and if Microsoft's promise of "surprises" wasn't all talk

if gt5prologue sold 8 million copies last year it would have been a GOTY contender because it was still a game.
more a pre-expansion of gt5.

halo:odst will be boxed also and will probably sell a lot of copies (5million - 8million) and how is it less a game than prologue?

only if he said "it was "this" big cousin", then yes.

that picture told me it thinks your super cute

well said, you didn't waste your time typing that.

i continue to read joystiq on a daily basis because it's simply a good source for gaming news. but i rely on this site for the FACTS and the FACTS alone.

their GOTY choices and other past articles based on opinion have only shown me that their tastes do not match my tastes, or the tastes of the majority of gamers, and that i should take most of what they say with a grain of salt.

Call me biased, which this statement is, but being from New York and playing a game that brought so much of its likeness alive(especially at night), makes this game #1 in my eyes.

Yeah, that's the real magic of R* games -- managing to evoke the character of a city. That's why I (and seemingly many others) enjoyed San Andreas more than IV. Stepping out of your house into the heat haze in LA, driving around in the thick fog of San Fran, that's what kept me coming back to the game. The gangbanger story is just the skeleton to me.

I never played San Andreas and can not since my PS3 doesn't support backwards compatibility. Hopefully someday Sony will make this possible in a firmware update but I doubt it. Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories are great. Maybe San Andreas Stories could happen.

Wow, how very dare they!

Having a different opinion to yours like that.. how low can they go?

You know, they did respond to the tidal wave of cretinous letters (of a similar format to yours) as to why GTA wasn't on the list. This included a number of key points about its gameplay, which I can easily agree with, plus the fact that just because it's not on the top ten doesn't mean they hated it.

GTA4 was good. But it could have been so much more.

The brilliance of GTA is that it could always be "so much more." It sparks something in your imagination that makes you think of all the possibilities such an open platform creates. I'll even admit that the game could use a few tweaks here and there. However, as in life, spending too much time thinking about what could have been is only ignoring the majesty of what is before you. A beautiful city captured in all (or at least) most of it's glory, where every sound you hear is accompanied by a visual prop that matches it. If you hear a jack hammer, surely there are road workers somewhere near. Street preachers and park instrumentalist can be seen. People are out for jogs, buying food from venders, going to comedy shows and bowling alleys. You have meaningful relationships in the game (not just with girls, but with friends to) and the dialogs between you seem to never run dry. That may not do it for everyone and that doesn't bother me, but as a critic you have a responsibility to think beyond just what does it for you. To ignore the magnificent accomplishment of GTA IV (a city packed to it's gills that unfolds seamlessly before you) is either an unfortunate oversight or someone trying to make a statement. With such a diverse group of people compiling this list, call me cynical for believing the latter.

That's the most pretentious argument ever.

This song I wrote is so brilliant, not because of what I did play, but what I (italics tag) didn't play.

While GTA might have had a fantastic city, there's very little impetus to explore it, the missions are repetitive, controls are sluggish and unsatisfying and the plot tries so hard to seem like a movie that it just ends up inheriting all the stereotypical traits. The friends system was not fulfilling, it was annoying. While I thought some of the characters were kind of funny, I didn't feel a connection to any of them, or feel remotely sympathetic of Niko whenever he lost Kate/Roman or made some tragic philosophy over his life.

GTA quite probably has the best realised city ever, but it doesn't connect you with it in the same way Mafia or Vice City did. If I'm allowed to dislike the game, why aren't Joystiq?

Haggard--

"While GTA might have had a fantastic city, there's very little impetus to explore it"

I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to speak for yourself on that one. I realize that you can find others who would agree with that statement, but I can also find a great many people who suffer from poverty of imagination / short attention span.

I'm agreeing with zymman. I've played every 3D GTA game through to the end. Sure GTA4 may have less "bells and whistles" than San Andreas. BUT,... there is no game that has a more realistic environment(city). Period. Oblivion? Please. Fallout(3)? Boring. I can't relate to fantasy lands but I can relate to a real city. Especially one modeled after NY. And I don't even live there. But have visited.

The city is the star in GTA 4. It's beautiful and dense. It's a city simulator that lets you go buck wild. Multiplayer is a blast when you get a bunch of people who know how to play. GTA 4 had to be made and R* made it almost flawlessly IMHO. Would I like some San Andreas elements to make it into the next GTA? Sure. But as it stand GTA4 is IMHO the most involving video game I've played. And yes a big part of that is the graphics. There are a million nooks and crannies in GTA4 that you can "discover".

Good point. Hopefully it's clearer now.

(You mean "Chinatown Wars.") :)

Agreed, that game felt like a chore and was the most disappointing game of the year as far as I'm concerned.

agreed.

Some of the "missions" were fun but the vast majority of them were a chore. I felt as though I was a child again and my parents saying, "If you don't eat your veggies/clean your room you'll have to play GTA IV."

Or, "Finish your GTA IV or no desert/go to bed hungry."

It was very tedious indeed. It felt more like the sims than the other gta games i had played.

"How about no more GTA games ever?"

Attention, class! Attention please!

The above comment perfectly illustrates the saying, "Talk is cheap."

Class dismissed.