But ... wait a minute. Where's Escape from New York?
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Kojima picks 15 films that influenced Metal Gear Solid
by Ludwig Kietzmann 
on Jan 20th 2009 3:38PM
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But ... wait a minute. Where's Escape from New York?
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 3:52PM (Unverified) said
How on earth does he not list "Escape from New York" on the list...
That's where he got the name Snake from, as well as the basis for the character. *cough* Eye patch later on anyone?
Very weird... also I wasn't aware Casino Royal among some of the other films on the list, were made when MGS became the huge hit it was on the PSX and PS2 onward. (I don't count NES)
Ironic as well that most of these films are from Sony studios. *cough*
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That's where he got the name Snake from, as well as the basis for the character. *cough* Eye patch later on anyone?
Very weird... also I wasn't aware Casino Royal among some of the other films on the list, were made when MGS became the huge hit it was on the PSX and PS2 onward. (I don't count NES)
Ironic as well that most of these films are from Sony studios. *cough*
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:02PM (Unverified) said
I think someone needs to take some robitussin from all that coughing...
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:33PM (Unverified) said
"Snake Plisskin from Escape From New York meet Iroquis Pliskin from Metal Gear Solid 2."
Kojima: "Whaaauh?"
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Kojima: "Whaaauh?"
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 6:28PM (Unverified) said
Go to the site, click on the movie, there is a little square with japanese text and kojimas eyes above.
One google translation later revealed:
"Series is the most influential 007 Metal Gear series. The latest Bond, Daniel Craig of the first film. Cenozoic feel a bond with a modern realism. Credit part of the beginning, MGS3 head back-stage grinning like a trailer! He said."
Casino Royale wasn't around when MGS 3 hit...
To paraphrase Snake: ...What the hell?
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One google translation later revealed:
"Series is the most influential 007 Metal Gear series. The latest Bond, Daniel Craig of the first film. Cenozoic feel a bond with a modern realism. Credit part of the beginning, MGS3 head back-stage grinning like a trailer! He said."
Casino Royale wasn't around when MGS 3 hit...
To paraphrase Snake: ...What the hell?
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 6:49PM (Unverified) said
Pime Taradox.
Although he could mean Casino Royale with Woody Allen or the one based on the novel.
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Although he could mean Casino Royale with Woody Allen or the one based on the novel.
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 7:57PM Haggard said
Well, since it mentions Daniel Craig it must mean the latest one.
Are we sure this isn't just a list of movies that Kojima likes? Or that the store who are selling these at discount didn't just have a huge stack of Casino Royale DVDs and snuck them onto the list?
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Are we sure this isn't just a list of movies that Kojima likes? Or that the store who are selling these at discount didn't just have a huge stack of Casino Royale DVDs and snuck them onto the list?
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 8:00PM (Unverified) said
"Ironic as well that most of these films are from Sony studios. *cough*"
Ironic that you'd use the word without knowing it's meaning, but since you're not bright enough to research your claim I'm not surprised.
Sony Pictures came into existence in 1987 as Columbia. I'm not going to bother pulling up the details on all of them, but only 1/3 of those are 1987 or later and even fewer are Sony flicks. Basically, see that bottom row? Those are the films that MIGHT BE Sony flicks.
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Ironic that you'd use the word without knowing it's meaning, but since you're not bright enough to research your claim I'm not surprised.
Sony Pictures came into existence in 1987 as Columbia. I'm not going to bother pulling up the details on all of them, but only 1/3 of those are 1987 or later and even fewer are Sony flicks. Basically, see that bottom row? Those are the films that MIGHT BE Sony flicks.
Posted: Jan 21st 2009 12:21AM Levi Partridge said
Well trebek, since I'm an anal bastard, I decided to look it up. Sony bought Columbia Pictures in 87 (along with TriStar pictures), and MGM in 2005, so Sony owns the distribution rights to more than half of those films. Basically, If you start naming movies at random, it's likely that Sony will own half of them.
However, that doesn't excuse DCD for being a dick.
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However, that doesn't excuse DCD for being a dick.
Posted: Jan 22nd 2009 1:19PM wcarnation said
The name 'Snake' was derived from the word 'Sneak'.
Big Boss has had an eyepatch since the original Metal Gear, it transferred to Snake thematically.
While it might be fine "you don't count the NES", Metal Gear 1 and 2 were on the MSX and had an equal amount of effort put into their design. Hell, most of Metal Gear Solid 1 is refined ideas from Metal Gear 1 and 2 (teleporting ninjas, hind-d battles, etc.).
Who is to say Casino Royale didn't influence him? It came out before Metal Gear Solid 4.
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Big Boss has had an eyepatch since the original Metal Gear, it transferred to Snake thematically.
While it might be fine "you don't count the NES", Metal Gear 1 and 2 were on the MSX and had an equal amount of effort put into their design. Hell, most of Metal Gear Solid 1 is refined ideas from Metal Gear 1 and 2 (teleporting ninjas, hind-d battles, etc.).
Who is to say Casino Royale didn't influence him? It came out before Metal Gear Solid 4.
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 3:52PM OMGOMG said
OK, Let's see.
Dawn of The Dead: Crazy soldiers in MGS4 (only played first 2 hours, don't spoil!)
2001: The idea of technology surpassing human intelligence
Children of Men: Rose being pregnant in MGS2??
Die Hard: BAMF Main Character
Blackhawk Down: Middle East setting in MGS4
Predator: Crazy bosses in MGS3?
Full Metal Jacket: "ARE YOU TELLING ME RUSSIA HAS METAL GEAR?"
Bourne Identity: Taking down corrupt government
Heat: Crazy battles at downtown landmarks
Planet of the Apes: Crazy plot twists!!
Haven't seen Goldfinger in a long time, and none of the others.
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Dawn of The Dead: Crazy soldiers in MGS4 (only played first 2 hours, don't spoil!)
2001: The idea of technology surpassing human intelligence
Children of Men: Rose being pregnant in MGS2??
Die Hard: BAMF Main Character
Blackhawk Down: Middle East setting in MGS4
Predator: Crazy bosses in MGS3?
Full Metal Jacket: "ARE YOU TELLING ME RUSSIA HAS METAL GEAR?"
Bourne Identity: Taking down corrupt government
Heat: Crazy battles at downtown landmarks
Planet of the Apes: Crazy plot twists!!
Haven't seen Goldfinger in a long time, and none of the others.
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:12PM Courtney said
Predator: Crazy stealth ninja cyborg clearly influenced by crazy stealth alien hunter.
I can see the Bond films in general influencing the key villains throughout all the MGS games. Revolver Ocelot could easily be a bond villain and the woman from MGS3 could be a Bond girl.
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I can see the Bond films in general influencing the key villains throughout all the MGS games. Revolver Ocelot could easily be a bond villain and the woman from MGS3 could be a Bond girl.
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:15PM (Unverified) said
I remember thinking of Predator while playing through MGS3 the first time. The whole jungle setting, including the boss battle with the Fear (optic camouflage, jumping from tree to tree, traps everywhere, etc.)
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:43PM (Unverified) said
I think Bourne Identity was about being brainwashed to kill and not getting the "Full story" from your commander, since it wasn't Snakes job to take down the Patriots. In fact, the Patriots HELPED Snake (see: Drebin)
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 6:19PM 343 Guilty Fart said
Goldfinger = MGS3 opening credits, SNAAAKE EAATER!!
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 6:47PM (Unverified) said
Dawn of the Death.
Probably Snake dream sequence in MGS3.
2001 my money is on MGS2.
I NEED SCISSORS 61
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Probably Snake dream sequence in MGS3.
2001 my money is on MGS2.
I NEED SCISSORS 61
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 7:43PM (Unverified) said
Looking for direct concepts/ideas is a bit silly - inspiration can manifest itself in a variety of different ways.
Additionally...
>> Children of Men: Rose being pregnant in MGS2??
MGS2 pre-dates Children of Men by several years
>> Blackhawk Down: Middle East setting in MGS4
Black Hawk Down is set in Africa
>> Full Metal Jacket: "ARE YOU TELLING ME RUSSIA HAS METAL GEAR?"
Full Metal Jacket takes place in Vietnam
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Additionally...
>> Children of Men: Rose being pregnant in MGS2??
MGS2 pre-dates Children of Men by several years
>> Blackhawk Down: Middle East setting in MGS4
Black Hawk Down is set in Africa
>> Full Metal Jacket: "ARE YOU TELLING ME RUSSIA HAS METAL GEAR?"
Full Metal Jacket takes place in Vietnam
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 3:53PM (Unverified) said
What i can see "speed" in the list !!!
thought he have steal the music of this movie..... xD
Sorry for my english :P
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thought he have steal the music of this movie..... xD
Sorry for my english :P
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:04PM (Unverified) said
You don't really need him to spell out a list of influences since he rips entire scenes and costumes/characters directly from films.
I like the guy but seeing all these older movies AFTER I played his games really cheapens his stuff when you realize how shameless he's been about ripping from famous movies.
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I like the guy but seeing all these older movies AFTER I played his games really cheapens his stuff when you realize how shameless he's been about ripping from famous movies.
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:17PM (Unverified) said
So he ripped the character from Escape from New York but didn't mention it?
Kojima you let me down.
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Kojima you let me down.
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:21PM (Unverified) said
I still remember the very first time I saw the MGS1 beta trailer that showed Snake fighting "the Cyborg Ninja" in the offices. Glass walls getting shot out and shattering, pieces of paper sifting through the air... and the first thing that came to mind was, "Man. These guys must have really loved Die Hard." =D
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:29PM Chibi Chaingun said
Konami: Ripping off Hollywood since the 1980s (http://www.shamoozal.com/nerdlog/2007/04/11/konami-characters-and-their-80s-counterparts/) and suing companies that make competing dance games for "infringing". LMAO.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:48PM Anticrawl said
That would be a good idea but I don't sell games because often I find myself wanting to come back and play older games. That and I don't like others making a fortune off of my stuff. I do love a good sandwich though. I'm enjoying LBP still and Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm is fun (though the damn scroll gathering is tedious as hell).
There is always Farcry 2 and Shadowrun to fall back on though.
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There is always Farcry 2 and Shadowrun to fall back on though.
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:53PM (Unverified) said
I say you keep it know that it and LittleBigPlanet will be the 2 games people think of when someone mentions the PS3.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:34PM (Unverified) said
If you just now figured out the 2001 reference, you didn't get the "Bad" ending in the original where they pretty much give it away.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 4:39PM (Unverified) said
Die Hard and Children of Men?! I gotta go play MGS4 again!
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 5:22PM (Unverified) said
Uh, actually escape from New York is there simply to tell us that mgsIV is coming to the 360.. Get it?? Escape from sony..
Sorry I went there.. I will be fading now..
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Sorry I went there.. I will be fading now..
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 5:30PM Chibi Chaingun said
OH AND ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK IS ON NETFLIX INSTANT...ON 360! :O MGS4360 konFuRMeD!!11!
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 5:33PM easo said
Sure we all know Snake gets his character design and name from Escape from New York, But where is The Terminator
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/xpdamus/SOLIDSNAKE-1.jpg
or Rambo
http://thor.mirtna.org/oddities/lookalikes/pics/roy_campbell_metal_gear_-_solid_richard_crenna.jpg
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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/xpdamus/SOLIDSNAKE-1.jpg
or Rambo
http://thor.mirtna.org/oddities/lookalikes/pics/roy_campbell_metal_gear_-_solid_richard_crenna.jpg
Posted: Jan 20th 2009 5:34PM Chibi Chaingun said
Check out my post on the first page, it has even more rip-offs! :)
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Posted: Jan 20th 2009 5:37PM (Unverified) said
With only two good movies on his list no wonder it's terrible. So it's clear Planet of the Apes and Predator were the good movies.
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