Bioware drops even more screens and concept art for The Old Republic
by Griffin McElroy 
on Jan 24th 2009 1:30PM
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 1:44PM R Planteer said
Now how about some details on payment sometime soon? Guild Wars has spoiled me with its lack of a monthly payment, and Im very hesitant to go back to a game that does have those. With Guild Wars 2 set to be released in about 1, 1.5 years, and it carrying a promise of no monthly fee, I'm probably just going have that as my MMO if Bioware makes this cost anything more than $5 a month.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 3:37PM (Unverified) said
Spolier: Common sense dictates its going to have a monthly fee. This is the most profitable business model.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 3:54PM finnith said
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/12/09/star-wars-the-old-republic-now-with-microtransactions/
This has been the only news about the payment model, and you can see that EA quickly responded by saying that the statement was misunderstood.
I think that a Guild Wars type of model would be pretty awesome, too, as it's a bit cheaper.
On an unrelated note, does anybody think that it's too late to get into Guild Wars since they already announced Guild Wars 2?
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This has been the only news about the payment model, and you can see that EA quickly responded by saying that the statement was misunderstood.
I think that a Guild Wars type of model would be pretty awesome, too, as it's a bit cheaper.
On an unrelated note, does anybody think that it's too late to get into Guild Wars since they already announced Guild Wars 2?
Posted: Jan 24th 2009 4:26PM (Unverified) said
15 dollars a month is 50 cents a day.
Is that really too expensive for people?
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Is that really too expensive for people?
Posted: Jan 24th 2009 5:08PM Snowblind said
It's not that it's too much, but why SHOULD I have to pay it, when other games provide exactly the same thing for free?
Monthly subscriptions are a massive scam and need to be stopped sooner rather than later, I certainly won't support any developer ripping off their user base in that way. (and no, it does NOT cost anywhere near as much to keep servers running as they would like you to believe).
As for Guild Wars, I wouldn't say it's too late to go in. You can get all the campaigns for pretty cheap at this point, and GW2 is still at least a year or two away. It's still very active, fun and many of your achievements will carry over to unlock things in Guild Wars 2.
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Monthly subscriptions are a massive scam and need to be stopped sooner rather than later, I certainly won't support any developer ripping off their user base in that way. (and no, it does NOT cost anywhere near as much to keep servers running as they would like you to believe).
As for Guild Wars, I wouldn't say it's too late to go in. You can get all the campaigns for pretty cheap at this point, and GW2 is still at least a year or two away. It's still very active, fun and many of your achievements will carry over to unlock things in Guild Wars 2.
Posted: Jan 24th 2009 7:20PM JCarpio said
@Snowblind
That's an interesting argument. But do you think a big company like EA could sell that idea to their stockholders? I don't really think so, since Activision can charge a monthly fee for their MMO.
Granted, even though it's Star Wars, it's not WoW (yet?).
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That's an interesting argument. But do you think a big company like EA could sell that idea to their stockholders? I don't really think so, since Activision can charge a monthly fee for their MMO.
Granted, even though it's Star Wars, it's not WoW (yet?).
Posted: Jan 24th 2009 8:42PM Snowblind said
Don't get me wrong, I'm almost certain that this will have a subscription, just that I personally won't be going near it if it does.
I don't think any game that follows with a similar model will ever be able to top WoW in terms of popularity, even with a name as big as Star Wars attached. It'd be great to see someone at least *try* something different..
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I don't think any game that follows with a similar model will ever be able to top WoW in terms of popularity, even with a name as big as Star Wars attached. It'd be great to see someone at least *try* something different..
Posted: Jan 24th 2009 10:51PM R Planteer said
@santaDuJuan
The Guild Wars is in a werid meta atm, and I personally dont play it much anymore. Then again, I have played it for over 3100 hours. The GW games are cheaper than ever, and I would say its worth it for you to pick up the first one (Prophieces) to see if you like it. I think the first one is only like $20.
If you do like it however, your going to need all of the games to be competitive on a pvp level.
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The Guild Wars is in a werid meta atm, and I personally dont play it much anymore. Then again, I have played it for over 3100 hours. The GW games are cheaper than ever, and I would say its worth it for you to pick up the first one (Prophieces) to see if you like it. I think the first one is only like $20.
If you do like it however, your going to need all of the games to be competitive on a pvp level.
Posted: Jan 24th 2009 10:53PM R Planteer said
Last comment is supposed to be @finnith. My fuckup...
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Posted: Jan 25th 2009 7:28AM Haggard said
I'm in the same position as R - I've played Guild Wars for thousands of hours; probably too much (must have been since I can't face playing anymore).
But to approach it as a newbie - where you can get all that content for less than a full-price console game, is definitely worth it.
Especially if you buy it with a friend and treat it as an online co-op RPG
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But to approach it as a newbie - where you can get all that content for less than a full-price console game, is definitely worth it.
Especially if you buy it with a friend and treat it as an online co-op RPG
Posted: Jan 25th 2009 11:04AM Snowblind said
That's probably the biggest problem with GW at the moment, although there's plenty of people still active, the majority of them have already played through all of the campaigns numerous times, and it can be hard to find groups to team up with.
If you have a friend or two you can play through it with, as a co-op RPG, it'll definitely give you the best experience. Then you can just use Heroes (customisable henchmen) to fill in the gaps on your team.
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If you have a friend or two you can play through it with, as a co-op RPG, it'll definitely give you the best experience. Then you can just use Heroes (customisable henchmen) to fill in the gaps on your team.
Posted: Jan 25th 2009 4:46PM (Unverified) said
The saddest thing about the monthly fee debate is that I've sunk much more money into GW (no monthly fee) than I have spent on monthly fees for any other mmo that I have ever played.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 1:52PM ripvanwinkle said
I'm really excited for this, if only because it's Star Wars.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 5:01PM The Blank Mage Returns said
I wish I was still as naive as you. Ah, those heady days of blind trust...
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 6:51PM ripvanwinkle said
Plus Bioware. I'm not blindly buying the game :P
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 8:26PM (Unverified) said
At least Bioware has a ton of experience making MMO's! Also, if Square (who's made a great many superb RPG's) can make an MMO that rocks like Final Fantas....
crap ...
Reserve judgments until you see the actual product.
I wouldn't give props, even to my own company until it showed it was deserving of it.
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crap ...
Reserve judgments until you see the actual product.
I wouldn't give props, even to my own company until it showed it was deserving of it.
Posted: Jan 24th 2009 10:37PM (Unverified) said
You know who else didn't make an MMO before they made one? Blizzard. Now I'm not saying that means Bioware can pull it off too, just pointing out your argument is weak.
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 1:53PM (Unverified) said
Sure it has Giant Enemy Crabs, BUT does it have real time weapon change?
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 2:00PM (Unverified) said
But why would you change your weapons? You get a motherfucking lightsaber!
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Posted: Jan 24th 2009 7:16PM (Unverified) said
'...and the Jedi are fighting gay Hutts.'
There, corrected.
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There, corrected.
Posted: Jan 24th 2009 8:54PM (Unverified) said
Looks like a female Jedi holding a light saber gives monsters a boner too. Wait...that is a female right? That Nathan Drake/Lara Croft pic still makes me cringe.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2009 6:42AM (Unverified) said
Is that the same stupid looking space crab from the stupid looking movie where?
Does it have stupid looking cat monsters too?
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Does it have stupid looking cat monsters too?
Posted: Jan 25th 2009 9:35AM Bowser Rogozhin said
The definition of game doesn't stretch as far as to encompass MMOs. This news doesn't belong on Joystiq.
It would be like a sports website reporting on Nascar or Formula One. It's clearly incompatible.
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It would be like a sports website reporting on Nascar or Formula One. It's clearly incompatible.
Posted: Jan 26th 2009 9:04PM (Unverified) said
The amount of entertainment you get from an MMO for 15 dollars a month is quite the bargain these days. I'm not a MMO player, but I did enjoy them when I tried them. I just don't have the time or the willpower to get through the guilt of playing it so much instead of being a grownup to justify the 15 dollars.
To get my fix for this stuff I love the Diablo model of online gaming. You could play for hour or all weekend and come out feeling like you did something.
Just wished these IP's would have games like that. KOTOR or LOTR Diablo style please! I know... its wishful thinking. Maybe Mass Effect... still wishful thinking...
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To get my fix for this stuff I love the Diablo model of online gaming. You could play for hour or all weekend and come out feeling like you did something.
Just wished these IP's would have games like that. KOTOR or LOTR Diablo style please! I know... its wishful thinking. Maybe Mass Effect... still wishful thinking...
Posted: Jan 25th 2009 2:54PM (Unverified) said
Can you finally chop limbs in this one? I'm not a violence/gore fan but after a bazillion Star Wars games you would think somebody would lose a body part or two with those things swinging around...Ya know, like the movies and all? (Lego SW doesn't count :P)
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Posted: Jan 26th 2009 12:23AM (Unverified) said
If I remember correctly, Jedi Knight II had decapitations at least, and Republic Commando had some gore as well. However, with the possible exception of head/hand severing, general dismemberment these days would require a lot of processing power, more than your standard MMO should rely on. So, doubtful that TOR will have decap/dismem effects.
Of course, there's always Dead Space for your body-slicing needs.
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Of course, there's always Dead Space for your body-slicing needs.
Posted: Jan 26th 2009 1:02PM (Unverified) said
And Ninja Gaiden 2 and Fallout 3. I just wanted proper slicing in a SW game, Unleashed was disappointing.
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