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Posted: Jan 29th 2009 2:13AM WiredKnight said

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Selling an unclassified game is a crime?

That seems wrong.

Posted: Jan 29th 2009 9:02PM JoshMilewski said

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It *is* wrong. Very, very wrong.

This is state-mandated culture-destroying freedom-restricting censorship.
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Posted: Jan 30th 2009 3:56PM WiredKnight said

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It's times like these I'm glad I live in America.
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Posted: Feb 5th 2009 12:45AM (Unverified) said

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Of course, in the USA it is not necessary to have a computer game rated at all. It is entirely voluntary. The big USA *Mart chains don't sell-through games that have too high a rating, but it isn't clear what their reaction might be if the publisher simply didn't bother to get one.

Outside the USA, however, it is relatively common practice for all films, all games, and some publications to have a mandatory rating in accordance with the national classification schemes of the country, and for sale (and in some places, also purchase) to be prohibited if they do not both have such a rating and have compliant labeling.

For example, in Australia, even games that are exempt from classification (according to section 5B of the Act - there are a few categories, but nothing you'd see in a normal games retailer) need to bear the label indicating that they have no rating because they are properly exempt.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 12:04AM WiredKnight said

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Yes, I understand all that. Just because it's a "common practice" doesn't make it right.

I meant it seems morally wrong. It makes sense for retailers to make it a policy not to sell unrated media, but for it to be flat out illegal seems oppressive.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2009 3:18AM (Unverified) said

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What else is new? Gaming for those in PAL regions has been backwards for years.

Games that run slower due to being poorly converted to the format.
Critically acclaimed games not seeing PAL release at all, or over a decade later when they finally do.
Bizarre censorship compared to the US or JP versions.

Posted: Jan 29th 2009 5:47AM (Unverified) said

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It actually isn't that bad here in Aus.
We dont have to wait that much longer for games to come out in PAL. And as a non-MMO-er, I had no idea about this whole non-rating thing.

But i'm quite happy with gaming in Aus.
Cept no Rockband 2. :(
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Posted: Jan 29th 2009 7:03PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, thanks.
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Posted: Feb 5th 2009 12:47AM (Unverified) said

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Sometimes I do wonder if the relative dearth of (for example) PS2 games (less than a third of the PS2 games catalog ever made it to Australia, for example, and some only within the last year or so) is because some publishers, particularly those in Asia, might be offput by Australian classification requirements (or the fact that we have different sets of standards for each rating to what they do)
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Posted: Jan 29th 2009 3:19AM Deck said

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Doesn't make sense. Why don't they just make a rating for 17+ or 18+, thus would allow other games to be sold and this would all be over and done with? Without all the controversy that always happens around this.

Posted: Jan 29th 2009 6:42AM (Unverified) said

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cos Michael Atkinson, the Attorney General of South Aus (?) keeps blocking it. He says its ok to reduce freedoms for adults as long as it protects kids.. or something.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2009 3:33PM aristokrat said

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Lame.

In the words of Jefferson, those who are willing to give up freedoms for safety deserve neither. Stupid politicians trying to legislate what people think.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2009 4:56PM aristokrat said

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Wow, that was Franklin, not Jefferson. Stupid Sexy Snake!
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Posted: Jan 29th 2009 3:34AM Yuccadude said

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Don't they realize that that plus sign means that it's 15 and up? They should look into making it like the ESRB has it and use the Teen rating for gamers 13 and up and Mature rating for gamers 17 and up. Also they should add an AO rating for games to be sold to gamers 21 and up, and not classify a game that they don't want sold in the country.

And once they have that, they should actually check to see if it is working and enforce their laws to make sure that retailers realize they are serious about the situation.

Posted: Jan 29th 2009 6:48AM (Unverified) said

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Can devs get around it by selling a 15+ game at retail with the 18+ parts as a downloadable patch? Seems like it'd work as "experience may change in online play".

Or can they submit games as movies? Like rockstar do with GTA in the UK and get it a 18 certificate from the movie board.

Posted: Feb 5th 2009 12:49AM (Unverified) said

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"Can devs get around it by selling a 15+ game at retail with the 18+ parts as a downloadable patch?"

You know, technically it seems to me that that would work. I doubt it would make certain groups very *happy*, but it does neatly sidestep the classification issue.

However, as we saw with Hot Coffee - even unofficial modification can cause an uproar.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2009 9:55AM acme64 said

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"they've never submitted their titles to the OFLC because they didn't believe it was necessary to do so"


ROFL, its a game, it needs classification, end of discussion.

Posted: Jan 29th 2009 10:14AM (Unverified) said

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We wouldn't need classification if we had better parents.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2009 10:18AM (Unverified) said

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i'm looking at my original WoW box and BOOM.

right there is the M rated classification. Lol, it cites alcohol use

Posted: Feb 5th 2009 12:15AM (Unverified) said

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Just as a footnote, the OFLC (Office of Film and Literature Classification) ceased to exist in 2007.

Up to that time, they provided administrative and PR services to the Classification Board (who actually handles the ratings process). In 2007, the OFLC was disbanded and its functions were folded into the Australian Federal Attorney-General's office who perform the same functions for the Classification Board, as well as setting policy for them.

Now, the important thing here is that it is the *sale* that is controlled - not the *purchase*. See also: http://www.massively.com/2009/02/04/gaming-the-ratings-game/

Legally, nothing has actually changed. The regulations that are in force have been in place since at least 1995. All that has happened is that it has been *noticed* that the games are being sold in violation of the act. As yet, nobody has taken any action that we are aware of. Going to take a trip down to the local store and see what's up.


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