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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:47PM Haggard said

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But having the second character isn't just a co-op gimmick, it makes the game un-racist!
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:42PM ChiTownRuler23 said

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wow no wonder i kept fucking dieing i would run up straight into a pile of zombies (this is the first time i played a resident evil game since the PS1 era)

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:42PM Mr Khan said

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So Capcom shows some backbone, and prevents the series from becoming just another 3rd-person shooter.

Good show

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:53PM In A World said

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No, more like they made it a 3rd person shooter in every respect EXCEPT the controls. The button layout is a mismatch for the amount of action on-screen. They either need more bullets or fewer zombies; it's simply not balanced.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:57PM zuburi said

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You dinosaurs just don't want the controls to evolve.

(Ow! I cut myself on the irony!)
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:03PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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@Mr.Khan

I loved Resident Evil 4 but in all honesty that wasn't a true Resident Evil game to anyone who has played the other games. After I played the RE 5 demo I didn't feel compelled enough to make it a day 1 purchase. I am still considering it but that Killzone 2 demo will really have to fall flat on it's face to make decide to pick RE up instead.

My whole thing is that Resident Evil is suffering from an identity crisis. It's not survival horror anymore and yet it's not a true shooter either. They need to decide which direction they want to go in. Co-Op was a nice touch to modernize it but I think it's retarded to not offer the ability to run and shoot at the same time.

I've been a huge fan of the series since the first game and when RE 4 came out it was my favorite game of last generation. However, RE 5 just felt like a prettier version of RE 4 with no changes other than co-op. I mean when 4 came out it wasn't Resident Evil anymore so how is being able to run and shoot going to change things for the worse?

I still want to buy the game eventually but I have to admit when I played the demo for 5 I wasn't really all that impressed. I also didn't like the inventory screen not being accessible while the game is paused which is classic Resident Evil. It's like they have moved it towards action but refuse the most simple fixes.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:39PM Mr Khan said

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i know, zuburi, it probably does feel like a big step backwards for those who have played RE4 Wii
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 8:04PM samfish said

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I would MUCH rather have RE5 on the Wii for the controls, as opposed to the nicer graphics.

I think the controls thing is overblown, really. Near as I can tell, it's coming MOSTLY from people who were almost certainly Xbox owners last gen and/or people who primarily play shooters. RE4 is considered one of the greatest games ever and control complaints were damn near non-existent, until the last year and a half or so. This level of complaining about the controls really is rather bizarre to me.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2009 1:30AM TwEE said

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As a big Resident Evil fan, I'm really glad Capcom did this. Not everybody wants gaming to converge into some homogenized action movie.

A lot of people here on internets who would consider themselves to be hardcore are always worrying that gaming is being "dumbed down" to appeal to a wider audience. And what happens when a game comes out that isn't?..... They complain... go figure.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:44PM (Unverified) said

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you forgot to mention how the 360 version of the game will be superior to the PS3 version of the game

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:47PM Solid Jackal said

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the demo did not grab me (well i was never excited to begin with), the fact that i have to press 2 buttons to run (ps3 version) L1 and X, also the inventory sucks i have to move the cursor to the item i want, press x and again choose if i want to equip it or something else..... y else would i choose the weapon if i did not want to equip it (i know there is a option to give it to your partner but how many ppl will want to do that) also i hate that dam axe dude, i pumped him with 12 shells, 3 punches and still he did not go down but when he hits me i die..... all in all PASS
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:57PM vidguy said

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"i have to move the cursor to the item i want, press x and again choose if i want to equip it or something else"

No you don't, at least on the 360 demo. The inventory is automatically assigned to the D-pad, and you can move the items in your inventory to match where you want to put that gun. One button press equips it. Done and done.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:39PM (Unverified) said

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L1 + X recharges buddy, all you need to run is hold x and move the left stick

You can assign inventory slots to the D-Pad so you dont have to open it every time, that rant of yours was very misinformed
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:48PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah people aren't asking for run & gun, just movement while aiming (and opening your inventory ;D). Anyways I'm still going to probably pick it up, but still think that there are TONS of other ways they could've given the player a sense of risk and danger without relying on these game mechanics.

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:57PM BiggRapp313 said

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exactly what I was thinking. I'm not looking to run and gun. just movement while aiming. this shit sucks ass and balls simultaneously. I like the fact they took the majority of the racist "white boy killing a buncha blacks" out of it and let some light skinned people get killed too and I was willing to look past the 5gb install but shit if I can't control the character what the hell's the use of buying it? fuck this game.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2009 7:45AM (Unverified) said

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"white boy killing a buncha blacks"...please, don't spread this type of ignorance. RE5 is set in an African country, and having actually been to Johannesburg, I can tell you that Capcom has the look of the place pretty damn close to reality. The only problem is the multi-ethnic cast of zombies, I saw white zombies and middle eastern zombies, and it just doesn't look right. Having a full cast of black zombies isn't racist, it's staying true to the setting.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:51PM ummhello said

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ummm...duh!?

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:52PM WhiteShield said

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i like this. gives it a more realistic feel to it. you're probably not going to be taking down hoardes of zombie-esque people while you are running. aren't zombies hard enough to kill anyway? then again, a slow walking back fire with a little lowered accuracy wouldn't hurt...

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:24PM Nomi said

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you should play l4d...
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2009 5:53PM WhiteShield said

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ya, thats EXACTLY what i was thinking of while i wrote that. but left for dead is... well its on the opposite end of the spectrum. and its DEFINITLY good in its own special insanely mind attacking way
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 10:16PM Malcheor said

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theres a video on xbox live saying it will kind of got my hopes up

the zombies in re5 just seem faster than in 4 so sometimes i would like to be able to back up but i have no problem with it ive played the re5 demo so much since the release

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:54PM vidguy said

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I'd be okay with a run&gun OPTION, but not if it was the only control method. This is okay by me though.

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:54PM (Unverified) said

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honestly the people who are crying about the controls need to grow a pair. this isnt Dead Space, nor Left 4 Dead get over it.

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:45PM (Unverified) said

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I bought RE4 in a bargain bin. The control scheme didn't make the game tense or scary and it was the worst game purchase I ever made. So yeah, sure, the control scheme in RE5 hasn't changed from RE4. Because of that, I won't buy or rent this game.

It really is as simple as that.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:47PM vidguy said

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Hmm, I guess everyone is entitled to his opinion. FWIW, I thought the controls rocked and RE4 was easily one of my top five games of all time.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:56PM DrChristopher said

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Dead Space was the most thrilling and frightening game I have ever played, and the control scheme allowed "running and gunning." I think a logical comparison can be made between this and RE.

Don't get me wrong, I loved resident evil 4. The movement restriction in that game did create some moments of high tension, but it also did create some frustration.

Ultimately, my first reaction was that being able to move in all directions while shooting would have been a welcome change, but it won't detract much from the experience.

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:35PM (Unverified) said

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I wholeheartedly agree with you. People confuse clumsy control with the pace of movement. Slow pacing add suspense to the game, not the crippled control. Dead Space is a perfect example of horror shooter control done right.

No one is asking for "gun n run", just a seamless, responsive control scheme.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 8:22PM NIck PSN ID Rattlehead91 said

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"No one is asking for gun n' run"

Have you read any of the comments on this article? It's full of Gears of War fantards raving about how you can't move while you shoot.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 8:33PM (Unverified) said

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I move Chris Redfield this way. I stop and shoot. I find another shooting spot. Reload. Repeat.

It's responsive to me buddy. And people are crying "I want this to be like every other shooter I've been playing the past 2 years! Where's my runnin and a-gunnin!"
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:56PM Shmil said

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You keep bringing up how you don't care what people think of you. You're awfully defensive for someone who doesn't give a shit.

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:58PM (Unverified) said

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Great post!!! A+

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 6:59PM (Unverified) said

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The controls suck, that's all I have to say about this game.

C'mon Capcom, we should be able to run and shoot when a dude is chasing us around with a big ass chainsaw.

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:18PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Exactly.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:42PM mmxzer0 said

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The controls are fine, just learn how to use them. Commit to your position and shoot. Then you can (quick turn) run away like a little girl.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:01PM (Unverified) said

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P.S. What does Resident Evil 4 have to do with anything? Or is that only you've ever played?

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:02PM (Unverified) said

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I have never liked Tankident Evil for exactly this reason. It takes me out of the game completely if I have to stop moving to defend myself, and my character moves like he weighs 1200 pounds.

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 8:21PM (Unverified) said

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Me neither but if you start moving it turns into an Action game.It seems that's the only limitation that keeps Resident Evil 4 and 5 into the Survival Horror Genera and yeah is a pretty weak reason.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:03PM (Unverified) said

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Wow! Sarcasm, thats original!


/sarcasm

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:07PM (Unverified) said

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Any of you play Dead Space? It's proof that RE5 could have maintained the suspense with the walk & shoot gameplay. They could have even incorporated their own version of the 'dismemberment system'. Shoot a zombie in the leg to slow him down. in the arm, take away some of his ability to attack. any shot to the forehead an instant kill. (rather than the old 'anything above the neck' headshot.)

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 8:46PM kentuckyfried said

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It's not a dealbreaker, but I think RE5 would've benefitted from Dead Space's movement control. But to be honest, if you were trying to move while shooting in DS, it wasn't helping very much since you needed to aim, it's not like you could dodge while firing your guns.
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:20PM (Unverified) said

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I thought RE4 was the 2nd best PS2 game I ever played, and yet when I played the RE5 demo it felt dated. It seems to be stuck between wanting to be a survival horror and a balls out action game, and has ended up being awful at both, so why the hell not put run and gun in? It couldn't make it any worse than it already is. I'm only basing this on the demo though, the full game might surprise me and be awesome (and I hope it is). Also, no offense intended (since I don't know you), but you clearly do care what these guys think of you, otherwise you'd just ignore them. Just sayin'

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:23PM (Unverified) said

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No Wii version? Who cares. Aiming with an analog stick is so last-gen....

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:48PM Rollins said

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480p is so last-gen...
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Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:27PM LarZen said

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About time Capcom brought the Resident Evil series to 2009, RE5 is clearly not the case!

HORRIBLE just HORRIBLE gameplay!

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:28PM marklar said

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whatever, I'm gonna buy this franchise and then MAKE them include run and gun.

In unrelated news, I'm slightly delusional...

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:29PM VSpeck said

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You know this really wasn't just some fanbois rumor. This was something a Capcom employ said in a video and just got flat wrong. How can you really blame the community for wanting to know if it was true or not?

That said, I love Resident Evil and all but give me moving while shooting pls!

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:35PM FxDr said

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"...there's been absolutely NOTHING to suggest that the 360 version will be superior to the ps3 version."

Actually, around the time the demo went live on NA XBL, there was a side-by-side comparison with HD screenshots of the current 360 build, and a (possibly early) PS3 build. (Thought I saw them here, but can't find the damn post...)

The lack of post-processing on the PS3 version was very noticeable, many of the textures were muddy and washed out, whereas the 360 was gorgeous.

I haven't heard if it's been straighted out or not, but I can't imagine Capcom being *that* lazy with a port.

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:52PM (Unverified) said

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This game has "sucky controls" written all over it...
not even a Gamefly-worth

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:44PM Tez said

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My problem with the game isn't the lack of run and gun, it's the reused animations and stupid hit detection animation. When you shoot a guy in the kneecap and he staggers, awesome- when you then proceed to shoot him in multiple places all over his body and he just keeps doing that same stagger animation, it seriously pulls me out of the experience.

I do dig the co-op stuff from the demo, but certain aspects of the game lack polish while other parts are incredibly detailed. The graphics are great, the animations are reused and static.

Posted: Feb 2nd 2009 7:47PM Badmojo2074 said

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I've always felt like the Resident Evil control scheme felt like an artificial handicap just thrown in there to make the game more difficult.

I appreciate the idea that you want to stay true to the genre and make a challenging game, but it comes off as very heavy-handed.

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