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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 9:51PM Ke1nTrinkwasser said

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You should've asked them how they can release these things for free when other developers charge for inferior content claiming that they "have to"
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 10:23PM The Kong said

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Mmmmm i'm gonna have to buy me some microsoft points
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 11:21PM Sly C said

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flying car ftw.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 11:31PM (Unverified) said

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Meh. Please stop working on open world drag racing and make Burnout Revenge 2 already!
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 12:07AM CheesusCrust said

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Meh? Meh!!!? GTFO!!!
This is much better than revenge (IMO)
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 11:36AM (Unverified) said

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I like the sandbox world but I hate the Midnight Club-esque races. I hope in the next game, the circuits will close up every time I start a race, like they did on Most Wanted.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 12:00PM Alex R said

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This is much better than Revenge IEO

(In Everyone's Opinion)

B3 is the 2nd best.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2009 7:20PM (Unverified) said

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Someone here remembers that game as well as I do also

RED FLAG BABY!! loved racing to that song loololol
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Posted: Feb 8th 2009 7:21PM (Unverified) said

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i also LOVED the traffic checking or w.e it was were u hit cars from the back and get boost
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 11:34PM ammar91994 said

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That interview sounded way to much like a press release or PR stunt...

Don't get me wrong though, Criterion is one of my favorite developers (and Burnout on of my favorite games) but I think they could have put a bit more life into their answers.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 11:35PM (Unverified) said

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As I stated in the WRUP column, I finally bit the bullet and bought it. Congrats Criterion, you have my monies. And you will have more of my monies because I will be buying your premium content if it's anything like your free expansions.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 11:41PM Solid Jackal said

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does any1 know if the new island is a free update or paid?
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 11:57PM Deone said

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Big Surf? Paid.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 11:56PM El Capitaine said

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True, I didn't think of that.

Most game companies try to keep people coming so that they make money off the DLC and can get more presence by being in the Top 10 list.

But for Criterion, free DLC is actually BETTER because it causes people to return to the game, and gets them money for the ads. For example - the bikes update. If it had cost money, most people who had bought the game at launch (myself included) would've said "I'm done with this, I'll pass." But, by making it free, they cause FAR more people to sign on even to try it out, and thus they make more money than they would've without it.

I think the Party Pack had to cost MSP because it is completely unrelated to Freeburn, so it doesn't create nearly as much ad revenue.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 11:57PM Deone said

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It has been some nice months since the release, but I think he really said "nine". Not being an ass, just letting you know.

Kind of sidestepped that legal hurdles question a bit, didn't he?
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Posted: Feb 6th 2009 11:59PM Deone said

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I love the ads in this game. Immersive. I'm buying a slingbox on Amazon and eating a Whopper as we speak.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 12:54AM 8Complex said

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Now... if only there was a way to turn off the night mode. IMO, it completely ruined the game for me and there is just no going back and still be able to play online. I guess if they were trying to get rid of me, that was a good way to go about it. :-/
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 1:25AM (Unverified) said

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go to options you can change the pace of the day and you can disable night time. (:
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 5:51AM FakeJamaican said

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good to know!

but night crashes are funnier...since you can't see shit half the time
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 5:48AM FakeJamaican said

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I love ads in games... they are so much better than fake ads... I'd be 100% FOR some Taco Bell billboards in L4D, GTA4, etc... if it meant free DLC...

it's a fair trade off, and it really adds authenticity to the settings. I can only handle so much fake ads like GTA4, whether it's clever or not...

I picked up Burnout Paradise last week for 19.99 in a bargain bin and have been nothing but impressed with this title.. It's a fun pick up and play title, and all this DLC news has made me even more impressed...
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 7:10AM (Unverified) said

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Why everyone doesn't already own a copy of Burnout Paradise is beyond me. Even if you seemingly don't like racing games this is still a blast to play. I will support Criterion in whatever they do because of their attitude toward game changing content. I hope more developers learn from Criterion.

Seriously if you haven't picked up BP go buy it now, you won't regret it.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 11:35AM (Unverified) said

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Lack of retry button.

Ultimate Box, here I come!
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 7:18AM Dragsy said

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The guy didn't even answer two of the questions, don't let them cop out with pre-arranged PR fluff. Press them, damnit!

Still, wonderful game, and I'm very impressed with the after-market support. In-game ads are definitely a fair trade off for the quality of content (think of all the shite we spend points on and we get entire new modes and stuff for free, it's mental).

I'm proud it's a UK developer blazing a trail in the age of DLC-supported gaming.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2009 9:08PM (Unverified) said

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Interesting how they avoided giving real answers to some the questions being asked, especially when concerning EA or DLC pricing related questions. It sounded more like reading one of their PR replies, rather than someone from the actual development team talking, which is a huge shame because someone from the actual team would have been worth listening.

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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 8:01AM (Unverified) said

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I have always liked the Burnout series, and was so impressed with this version that I went out and bought an XBox 360 just to be able to play it.

One of the best decisions I have made in a long time, now not only do I get to play this outsanding game, but I get to play a vast amount of other very impressive games on the XBox 360.

Critereon, you have my business (and Microsoft should thank you too).
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 9:40AM technoKyle said

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Legal hurdles? I, uh... I don't know what you're talking about.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 11:44AM (Unverified) said

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Let me explain.

Imaging Microsoft releasing Killzone's Helghast models for Halo 3 as DLC. Sure, they name it all different and change a couple of details but the red-eyes remain and so does that fact anybody who looks at it knows it's Killzone.Now imagine the internet outrage and Sony instantly stopping the DLC from being released as it breaks the copyright.

While not as extreme, Criterion is doing something similar right now, walking across a thin line as they're releasing some obvious Back to the Future and Ghostbusters based cars.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 3:12PM technoKyle said

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No, no, you don't understand. That was my impression of the Criterion guy in the interview.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 10:44AM Meximanly said

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@EgoCheck...

The in-game ads don't pay for the updates. Criterion was just making an investment with the free updates. After each update, more and more people were enticed into buying the game because of all of the support that Criterion had given the game. Now, Criterion is expecting for some kickback from all of the premium DLC that they are coming out with this year. Because of all of the free content Criterion gave away in 2008, most Burnout owners are glad to spend a few bucks on the upcoming content to show they're support from Criterion. It's a great strategy because it's not like Criterion has been shoving pay for content down our throats from the start. Keep the customers happy and they'll be sure to come back for more. :)

http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/10/14/obama-ad-appears-in-burnout-paradise/
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 11:44AM (Unverified) said

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Speaking for myself, I just bought the game last week from the PSN store, based almost entirely on the fact that Criterion keeps adding free content. I don't play a lot of racing games, but at the same time, it's worth 20 bucks to me to support a developer doing things right. Plus I got what turned out to be a pretty frickin good game out of the deal.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 12:44PM (Unverified) said

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I have to say that i didnt buy the patch or expansion but got the update today. I dont like the fact that we now have to register with EA to play online. We didnt have to before so why do we have to do it now.

Adding little extra steps like this do not help sell games as you can see by how well received the online version of mgs went down. ok thats a little bit more complex to setup but people want to be able to put in a disk and click online. They dont want to have to register for sites.

enough of a rant....back to watching rugby
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 3:27PM spin cycle said

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Agreed. I don't know why there aren't more complaints about this.

They had the best online possible. You were only two clicks away from playing with others before. Now you have to make an account. Stupid.

You also have to wait while a web page loads at boot now. Ridiculous. Turn that crap off, dumbos.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 1:40PM daringone said

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I picked up BP used @ Gamestop for $18 about a month ago before it dropped to $20 new. I feel so guilty for all the content they've provided that I plan on buying all the DLC whether I want it or not. (the toy car pack doesn't appeal to me). If you haven't already, you need to check out their CrashTV podcast on iTunes. It's just another thing in a long list that shows what a commitment they have to their fans.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 3:55PM Rhamsey said

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criterion has made the only racing game i like with their free updates and awesome dlc. cant wait to actually play the party pack since i bought it on the 5th, yet couldnt actually play it yet.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 5:45PM petepete said

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but it IS still in stores!
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Posted: Feb 7th 2009 9:43PM (Unverified) said

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I have to say thank you Criterion for feeding us with all the free content, sure I'll pay for some DLC now but all my friends are online lol so there is no reason to grab party mode. Can't wait for the island pack. My only complaint is that it takes forever for my game to start since my internet connection isn't the greatest so I have to wait a while for everything to download in the news section.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2009 2:52AM trespasser said

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When the page tries to load just press triangle and then circle, that will take you back to the game.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2009 10:44AM (Unverified) said

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Good shit now to get off my ass and upgrade my license
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Posted: Feb 9th 2009 9:42AM (Unverified) said

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Well. I live in spain. Bought burnout in november. I put the disc in and everything is in French! I'll let you guess what language people speak in Spain,... it isn't french! I brought the game back to the store to complain and they said that was perfectly normal. i should put the menu in spanish so then the game wouldn't be in french. But my xbox is set to english! why does it then think i'd like to play this game in french.

Seriously, what's the logic? because i put my xbox menu in english burnout logically concludes i'd want to play the game in french. WTF. who thinks of this? what with a little pop-up? game only available in spanish or french. which one do you want. No, to be able to play in spanish i would have to change my xbox's menu language to spanish every time i want to play burnout. every single time.

i don't play burnout. just because of that; it is just to stupid.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2009 1:28PM (Unverified) said

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Am I the only one that misses aftertouch? I love Paradise, but the aftertouch takedown were awesome. Kinda lives on in showtime though.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2009 10:06PM El Capitaine said

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I just think that they did this in a great way.

Although perhaps they didn't use ingame ads to pay for the updates, I'm sure they used that revenue source to convince EA that they shouldn't be too greedy with the Burnout Paradise DLC.

By doing this, they keep people coming back, they sell more copies, and now they'll get more premium DLC out the door from people who buy it simply as a donation to all the great things Criterion has done with BP.

Also, on the subject of ingame ads:

It depends on the game.

If I were to see ingame ads in Halo, I'd be like WTF! Maybe if it was on an Earth level I could let it pass, except: Halo 3 ODST is set in a ruined city. I can accept ingame ads, but not dynamic ones. Also, if Bungie does this (which I don't think they will), the ad needs to be static, and it needs to be charred, possibly slightly obscured.

On the other hand, I like ingame ads in games like Burnout Paradise. In this case, it ADDS to realism, and makes Paradise City feel more real. Plus, I like the knowledge that every time I see it I'm paying Criterion a little bit back for all the awesome post-release support.
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