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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 1:38PM (Unverified) said

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That's what I was thinking as well, but at least there'll be more people online than if they didn't buy the game at all and it might convince them to spend their cash

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 1:44PM HeavyToka said

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That's funny because it's mine too

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 1:46PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not suprised there are so many in the queue for Killzone 2 rentals.

For me the demo wasn't incredible like the reviews say, maybe it was too short - I don't know - but it didn't seem to click with me. Maybe the people in that queue feel the same but believe the game has more to offer because of the high review scores, so will try it out.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:19PM (Unverified) said

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Sometimes it's really difficult to get across what a game will be in its entirety. This is the case for the Killzone 2 demo. It's short and the first part of it didn't have much action.

This is similar to Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. The demo didn't impress me in the least. There wasn't much content. However, when I bought the game it turned out to be one of the best games this generation, especially for earlier PS3 owners.

Having been in the Beta, I at least know the Multiplayer is worth the money (even with the few bugs and rocket-spraying). Do yourself a favor and at least rent it.

/speech

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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:23PM (Unverified) said

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It's funny that, because I really loved the Uncharted demo and played it many times...

Yet as you were in the beta I trust your word. So I might just buy this anyway, for the trophies if nothnig else, but I hope that isn't the case.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 1:51PM (Unverified) said

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pfff, why gamefly it when you can buy it ;)

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 4:23PM WhiteShield said

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my only fear is that i, who DIDNT preorder it won't be able to actually get a copy in stores because nothing will be left!
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 4:42PM The Commenter Formerly Known as said

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Yeah, let me pull out my wad of cash and run out and buy it... Please... Paying for the 2 games at a time plan at gamefly comes to about the same amount of money as buying 4 $60 games. So as long as I play more than 4 games a year, I'm coming out ahead.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 7:59PM (Unverified) said

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Maybe it's got something to do with the game being $70 and not looking that great?

Just putting that out there on the table.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2009 7:16AM (Unverified) said

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@Tophat I guess you haven't tried the demo...
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 1:52PM jhowlett said

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as soon as i read the headline i had a feeling something like that last paragraph was going to come up. at the end of the year the top rented list came out "where are all the ps3 games?", a ps3 game is at the top of the list for wanted rented games "is anyone going to buy it?"

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:27PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, Sony can't win here.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:34PM jhowlett said

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damned if they do, damned if they don't
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 4:55PM Sleestak said

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It's unfortunate, I used to like this site.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 10:49PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah. I remember when this was a good site. Now, there is too much 360 fanboyism.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:00PM The1 said

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Heck, Killzone 2 should be the MOST WANTED title on Gamefly. There were over 1 million preoders in Europe and considering the state if the Nation; more people will rent games instead of buying.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:02PM (Unverified) said

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OMG.. what a waste of money

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:20PM (Unverified) said

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Killzone 2 or a GameFly subscription?
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:31PM (Unverified) said

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gamefly obviously... guerrilla has given us all the information we need...
we already know that the game rulz and thats worth the money...

i dont have the money yet.. but even if a have to wait a few more weeks.. i wont spend money renting it to play it sooner.. id rather wait and have my own copy
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 6:00PM (Unverified) said

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well said trend. Why the hell does anyone just rent it, gross used copies half of the time too. Its so much better to have your own clean copy to play whenever you want.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:04PM (Unverified) said

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Well after they wait 5 months for gamefly to actually send the game, they'll end up buying it. That's why I ditched my gf account, i got tired of getting 5-9 on my list.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 7:37PM (Unverified) said

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i hear you there,gf sucks
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:21PM ocdog45 said

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you can buy games from gamefly. its like 20% off the retail price and you get the game a day or so later. unless i want it now i always get my games from gamefly since its cheaper.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:23PM (Unverified) said

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I never rent games, but I'm renting this one before buying it.

Why?

A) I'm tired of plopping down $60 for a game I'll stop playing after a week, and

B) I remember the first Killzone.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:57PM Kruegmeister said

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Killzone 2 MultiPlayer is off the Hook. Shouldn't have much problem deciding to buy this one.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:30PM TreoRocks said

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This should warn all of you who want to preorder this game from GameFly, that you better buy the game instead of waiting in the long queue.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:49PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, getting KZ2 from GF doesn't really make sense. I'm guessing most folks who've queued this up will be waiting a month just to play it. On the other hand, I feel like a lot of other people here do about the demo-- it didn't blow me away as reviews suggested it would. (Then again, more than a few reviews noted that the game started out "meh" and built to a climax somewhere in the middle-- maybe it's just a hard game to compress into a ten-minute test drive.)

I'm torn because I want to play through the campaign to see what all the fuss is about, but I've never been one to spend hours on MP, so $60 seems like a steep price for a ten hour ride. Dunno. Maybe I'll buy it, beat it, and put it on eBay for $40...?

* About the demo: I will say that playing through it a few times is a must, as the gameplay becomes more rewarding as you come to grips with the controls. I definitely get what reviewers are saying about how refined and visceral the combat is. It doesn't feel like a shooting gallery in the COD4 sense, where things are fast and weightless and you mow down enemies. But at the same time, it is another shooter and I think I'm just tired of the gritty war game genre.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 6:25PM RagingStormX said

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I am starting to feel the same way...I am not willing to spend as much time on MP anymore...after going gold cross on COD4 and getting the platinum trophy for R2, I want to get back to alot of the RPGs that I still have for my PS2 that I didn't get to finish. But I would buy your "mint" condition KZ2 for $40 in a flash. KZ2, SF4 and RE5 are the only games I plan on buying for the next 6 months. Even though a 360 is looking mighty temping with the release of Star Ocean coming this month.......damn you tri-ace!!
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 2:57PM JasperLoons said

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Ugh, I'm so dizzy.

Get it? Because of the spin...

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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I will buy this game period. i dont trust gamefly anymore because it has alway very low games for over 5 months! why did they rent KZ2? they should be idiot who can't afford it or just want to play it for a short time and see if they like it then they will buy KZ2 is a big waste of time.

I BET most of them can't get KZ2 from gamefly because it will be alway very low game so fast and have to wait for over 5 months.

Anyways im looking forward to play this awesome full game on 27th! Go for it, KZ2!

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:22PM (Unverified) said

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I don't get it either. Why would you rent this? The multiplayer is what really shines even though the single player campaign is supposed to be decent.

So you rent a multiplayer game, play it for a week or so...then go buy it? I'm so confused. It's almost like renting SOCOM.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:56PM (Unverified) said

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Are you completely oblivious to what rentals are for to begin with? I don't know what you don't understand about this... people rent games to see if they actually want it. Doesn't matter if its for single player or multi.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 4:34PM (Unverified) said

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I guess the reviews and the feedback from the hundreds of people in the multiplayer beta are enough for me. That and the European demo I played last week. It's not like this is an iffy title like Haze.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:27PM (Unverified) said

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this is no surprise to me, this is a definite rental for sure. it supposedly has a short single player campaign and relies too heavily on its online (read: NO SPLIT SCREEN) multiplayer. they may have benefited by releasing a better demo to turn renters into buyers.. not that the game wont still sell a ton, cause it will.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:27PM TuxBobble said

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Don't forget, you can buy a game while renting it from GameFly. That's what I do when I want a game--get the used price for a practically new game with disc and manual...

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:30PM tmontana213 said

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Killzone 2!!!!!

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 3:49PM (Unverified) said

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All of those that are italic are the 360 versions (look at GameFlys homepage, they don't include games that aren't released yet though).

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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theyre all italic genius.... and one of those hasnt released yet either...... wth is your point anyways?
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 4:26PM (Unverified) said

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i cant believe people have to rent a SO amazing game... the demo should be more than enough to tell if its gonna turn you on or not...

If you dont like the demo at all then its not your kinda game... if you like it and want more! go buy it! and support your system and guerilla!

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 4:15PM (Unverified) said

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You can't buy them from gamefly until several months after release. At least you couldn't when i was signed up. Of course i never got a Newly released game until several months after release any ways.

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 4:45PM (Unverified) said

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nah Dude, you can buy as SOON as its shipped now, I've gotten 30 games that way
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 8:14PM Vidikron said

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Yup. Every game I've gotten recently has had the "Keep it" option, even if I was the first person to get that specific copy of the game I rented.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 4:39PM (Unverified) said

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hey it's cool to see a ps3 game topping the gamefly list. They most likely plan to buy the game from gamefly at the used price for a new game, plus if you've been a member long eough you get an additional 5 to 10 % off....... New game for 30% off is a grea deal.The demo is cool but too short, the online beta was long and i loved it, so for me it's a day one buy!

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 4:44PM (Unverified) said

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Hell I am NOTORIOUS for "GameFlying" a NEW game and then buying it when I receive it, hell you get a BRAND NEW Game for like $40-50

although with this I was persuaded to Pre-order from Amazon

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 7:38PM mrfrieze said

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Halo wars is 3rd on that list. I guess were all thinking no one is going to buy that either right....

Posted: Feb 10th 2009 8:15PM Vidikron said

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Isn't this the same as asking why people rent movies? I'd wager that most people play most of their games once through completely. If you have no interest in playing any multiplayer that may be available renting makes for a good option. Just as a quick example, say you rent a game in which you are only interested in the single player campaign and that without the renting option you would have purchased the game. The 1-game-at-a-time plan at Gamefly is $16. Assuming the game is $60 new, renting via Gamefly just saved you enough money to pay for roughly 4 months of Gamefly. Except during those 4 months you'll be able to play a lot more than 1 game for the same price.

Obviously you can resell a puchased game, but even taking that into consideration the economics of why people use a service like Gamefly is quite obvious.

Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:02AM (Unverified) said

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You can buy 8 games a year at $60 for a total of $480, lets say you sell each one for 50% of what you paid at $30 when your done, you end up paying $240 after all is said and done. 2 at a time from gamefly is $240 a year. So you would have to play more than 8 games a year not 4 like someone else said for it to be worth it. So even if you decide to buy them at what 20% off which would be $48, thats an additional $384 on top of the $240. I dont see that as being frugal. The other advantages to purchasing are that you can play any of the 8 you want at any time, can usually get them for less than $60 during sales or even less if buying used. You dont have to wait for a game to arive 2 months down the road. If you didnt like one of the games after a few days of playing you could probably sell it for near what you paid for it. Who even has the time to play more than 8 games a year? Netflix I can understand if you dont have premium cable/sattelite, but gamefly is far from economical.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:19AM (Unverified) said

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Oh I just checked gamefly's website to confirm price, its actually 22.95 for 2 at a time, so for a year it would be $275.40. That means Im upping the 8 to 9 games a year in the other comment. which would be $270 after you sell them all. You would have to rent at least 10 games a year for it to be more economical. Last year I purchased 2 at full price last year, 3 new on sale, and another 3 used for less than $30 used. So I spent about $320 for 8 games. I would rather pay $320 to have 8 at a time than $275.40 to have 2 at a time and be able to sell or trade them when Im done.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:21PM Vidikron said

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@klrtovfr (the comment system is fucked up so I don't know if this will appear in the right place)

Depends on how many games you play. Eight games really isn't that much when you are renting. I use Gamefly and generally get AT LEAST one game per month. Plus renting allows you to try out games that maybe you wouldn't have wanted to risk full price on. At worst you try it out for a day or two and then send it back for a different one.

Also, you're being rather generous assuming your going to get 50% of the value of your game back when you sell it. Most trade-in shops won't even give you that on very new games. Maybe you'll come close to that value on the hottest new game within a couple weeks of release. But if you're going to be returning it that quickly then you may as well have rented. You could, of course, sell games to fellow gamers and maybe get more money on a newer game, but in many cases you'll have to deal with shipping and the associated charges unless you less locally. And, of course, your also ignoring sales tax and/or shipping (if bought online) in your examples... most people are going wind up paying on or the other unless they find a great deal online.

I'm not saying there aren't other ways to handle this. You yourself brought up buying games on sale or used. But each has potential drawbacks. For example, most newer used games only sell for $5-10 less at stores that do trade-ins. Older games have better prices, but then you've got to wait for that. You can sometimes find a fellow gamer selling a used game for a decent price, but then you've got to do the footwork yourself and track these bagains down, work out the deal, and then make payment and hope the person was legit.

At this point it's also worth noting that places like Gamefly sell used games too. It's not like just because you rent you can't take advantage of other deals. Also, as someone else mentioned, Gamefly offers you the option to keep games you like. I've had brand new releases that I had to option keep for $45. The savings alone on a new release pays for a month of service.

BTW, you can change your Gamefly plan by month if you want. I generally bump my plan down to 1 per month during the slower portions of the year and then bump it to 2 games per month as the holiday season approaches. So it's not like I'm paying the $22.95 each month. And even if I was, I'd likely just play more games and try out older games skipped. Either way I can easily the best value for my money.

Anyway, again, there are other ways to save money, but renting is just as useful as any of the others and becomes more economical if you play a lot of games. If you only play a few games a year, then yeah, something like Gamefly likely isn't for you. But if you're the type of person that plays 1 or more games a month and doesn't want to wait for used games to reach decent prices then you should consider Gamefly. I know people that never play new games. They just wait until a game has been out for a few months then try to find a good deal on it used or on sale at a store new. I'm too impatient for that, but it works for them. Gamefly works for me.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2009 8:58PM (Unverified) said

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Why don't these people actually buy the game instead of renting it? I am absolutely against game rentals because it takes money away from the developers.

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