Wow. Our posts are really short when we can't find anything to complain about.
Wow. Our posts are really short when we can't find anything to complain about.
Reader Comments (128)
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:19PM (Unverified) said
Thanks Valve, for breaking the mold. Was already tired of the trend of overpriced DLC with content that isn't worthwhile.
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 3:09PM (Unverified) said
whoa lets not pat themselves too hard, this really should have been in the game from the beginning or later "patched in"
basically the levels which already exist in the game will now also be available for the other game modes.
Reply
basically the levels which already exist in the game will now also be available for the other game modes.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 3:35PM (Unverified) said
@flanker22: "whoa lets not pat themselves too hard, this really should have been in the game from the beginning or later "patched in" "
1) Isn't this the same as "patched in later"? This is essentially a free content update. I fail to see how this is the problem.
2) The maps do have changes between standard and versus mode. For example, the room on top of the Hospital at the end of No Mercy. Valve apparently takes extra time to ensure the the maps are well balanced in Versus mode. Personally, I'm fine with the game coming out when it did and adding these polished levels now, rather than coming out with all the polished levels now.
Reply
1) Isn't this the same as "patched in later"? This is essentially a free content update. I fail to see how this is the problem.
2) The maps do have changes between standard and versus mode. For example, the room on top of the Hospital at the end of No Mercy. Valve apparently takes extra time to ensure the the maps are well balanced in Versus mode. Personally, I'm fine with the game coming out when it did and adding these polished levels now, rather than coming out with all the polished levels now.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 3:38PM Berzerk said
@flanker22 (sorry Lieutenant)
Shut your god damn mouth.
I'm tired of the argument that "it should have come out with the initial release". What would you prefer? 6 maps that came out in November or 8 maps that might be out some time in March? I'd prefer to actually be playing the game instead of still waiting for it.
Reply
Shut your god damn mouth.
I'm tired of the argument that "it should have come out with the initial release". What would you prefer? 6 maps that came out in November or 8 maps that might be out some time in March? I'd prefer to actually be playing the game instead of still waiting for it.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 4:38PM The Monarch said
I think a lot of people have the misconception that Valve is just adding a new game mode and making Death Toll and Dead Air compatible with Versus mode. This is incorrect. They are adding two NEW maps, one of which is reportedly a SHOPPING MALL, both of which will be compatible with Versus mode. THIS IS NEW CONTENT. It was not "already in the game".
It is unconfirmed whether said maps will also work with campaign mode, or which maps will be compatible with Survival mode. It seems as if Death Toll and Dead Air will continue to be unusable in Versus mode.
Hope this clears things up.
Reply
It is unconfirmed whether said maps will also work with campaign mode, or which maps will be compatible with Survival mode. It seems as if Death Toll and Dead Air will continue to be unusable in Versus mode.
Hope this clears things up.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 5:04PM (Unverified) said
Obama PROMISED change, but Gabe Newell delivered it instead.
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 5:17PM CannabisPrime said
@xtremeholymuffin:
Do you have a link to where the "new" maps have been reported?
Reply
Do you have a link to where the "new" maps have been reported?
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 5:46PM (Unverified) said
Yes, maybe should have been part of the initial release... but considering that every time before this Microsoft has FORCED developers to release DLC for pay, I consider this a tremendous coup for John Q. Gamer.
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 6:33PM einhanderkiller said
xtremeholymuffin, the shopping mall, known as Dawn Before Dead, is a fan made map. It was originally for the mod No More Room in Hell, but I believe that mod died so the creator of the map is now porting it for use in Left 4 Dead.
Reply
Posted: Feb 12th 2009 3:18PM (Unverified) said
i think either you people have never played the game or even bothered to look at the other game modes.
- basically single player has 4 campaigns, vs mode only has two available. those other two campaigns will be unlocked for vs mode.
- and a horde type mode
i still stand by my initial argument that it is more of a patch type content or in the game initially. seriously valve couldn't come up with a horde mode initially? seems like such a no brainer.
i've researched the articles on the said DLC and if im wrong i'll admit it, i'll come back here and apologize but if it turns out to be exactly how i stated you should all feel like idiots.
Reply
- basically single player has 4 campaigns, vs mode only has two available. those other two campaigns will be unlocked for vs mode.
- and a horde type mode
i still stand by my initial argument that it is more of a patch type content or in the game initially. seriously valve couldn't come up with a horde mode initially? seems like such a no brainer.
i've researched the articles on the said DLC and if im wrong i'll admit it, i'll come back here and apologize but if it turns out to be exactly how i stated you should all feel like idiots.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:20PM Magic Whiskey said
Yay. Classy move, Valve and MS. Not much else to say.
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:31PM (Unverified) said
This is Valve.
No surprise here, although I can't tell if they're being genuinely nice or just too afraid of the resulting shitstorm from their fanbases if they were to make DLC priced for the first time.
Reply
No surprise here, although I can't tell if they're being genuinely nice or just too afraid of the resulting shitstorm from their fanbases if they were to make DLC priced for the first time.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:43PM (Unverified) said
The problem with Burnout is that it's on all 3 platforms. If Microsoft forced them to charge, Criterion could play the "Yeaah, we're not releasing it on the 360 then" card.
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:47PM Karmastocracy said
Actually no Microsoft under it's own policy of "same price or less than competition" (PS3) couldn't force Criterion to do anything.
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:46PM (Unverified) said
Woops, seems you weren't talking about burnouts dlc at all. Nevermind, missread.
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 3:10PM Haggard said
Yeah, I was initially a bit shocked at the idea of this having a price tag if it's just new game modes on pre-existing maps, something modders could easily have done for free.
I'm glad they're not charging, but I am of course willing to pay for entirely new campaigns, so long as versus is supported from the get-go. And preferably if they're good value.
Reply
I'm glad they're not charging, but I am of course willing to pay for entirely new campaigns, so long as versus is supported from the get-go. And preferably if they're good value.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 3:56PM KingJD said
Microsoft doesn't force any developer to charge for DLC......Unless they are the publisher of the game as they are with Gears and Epic.
They charge a fee to host the content on their servers and it really is up to the developers or publishers to decide if they want to eat that charge or pass it along to the consumers.
Reply
They charge a fee to host the content on their servers and it really is up to the developers or publishers to decide if they want to eat that charge or pass it along to the consumers.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:31PM (Unverified) said
W00t!!
I was gonna sell L4D(friends don't have it anymore, no money for live)but I'm keeping it now!!!
Reply
I was gonna sell L4D(friends don't have it anymore, no money for live)but I'm keeping it now!!!
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 3:41PM (Unverified) said
Console gamers always call PC gamers elitist because of an inferiority complex that has formed since PC games started being ported to consoles.
Now, I play on all platforms, PC and console alike and yes while there are a fair share of PC gamers that are elitist pricks, there are a large number of console dickwads who act like juvinile delinquents with a KKK sticker slapped on their foreheads. I will admit though it's really nice to be able to choose the server I want and be able to easily votekick 14-year-old racial slur spewing, excessively swearing, whiny, cheating asshats from said server so I can enjoy gaming with people who are normal...for all intents and purposes anyway.
If you are going to lump PC gamers together perhaps I should do the same with console gamers? Don't hold a double standard. You guys have just as many assholes as we do.
Reply
Now, I play on all platforms, PC and console alike and yes while there are a fair share of PC gamers that are elitist pricks, there are a large number of console dickwads who act like juvinile delinquents with a KKK sticker slapped on their foreheads. I will admit though it's really nice to be able to choose the server I want and be able to easily votekick 14-year-old racial slur spewing, excessively swearing, whiny, cheating asshats from said server so I can enjoy gaming with people who are normal...for all intents and purposes anyway.
If you are going to lump PC gamers together perhaps I should do the same with console gamers? Don't hold a double standard. You guys have just as many assholes as we do.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:32PM (Unverified) said
Now I'd love to see all the PC gamers who where moaning before come on here and apologize.
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:38PM baby sea tuna said
Yeah, that'll happen. PC gamers aren't exactly known for their humility. Especially not around here
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:41PM Omega Aero said
Alex said to apologize because a lot of PC gamers were all "ENJOY PAYING FOR YOUR CONTENT WHILE I GET IT FREE"
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:43PM (Unverified) said
I'd like to see PC owners who were laughing at 360 owners paying for content they would get free to apologize.
But that won't ever happen since this is the internet.
Reply
But that won't ever happen since this is the internet.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 2:45PM (Unverified) said
The most elitist, arrogant gamers of all time apologizing? Hah
Reply
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 3:13PM Haggard said
You know, I'm one of the few PC gamers who comment on this site and I think it's pretty hypocritical that I'm being collectively called arrogant and elitist. Of course, you can make that argument about Lee, but then there's trolls in every platform's camp.
Not once in months have I made a comment that mocked consoles, console gamers or insulted anyone who didn't flamebait first. Enjoy your games, not defending the platform(s) you play them on.
Reply
Not once in months have I made a comment that mocked consoles, console gamers or insulted anyone who didn't flamebait first. Enjoy your games, not defending the platform(s) you play them on.
Posted: Feb 11th 2009 3:47PM silverwolf761 said
....And why should we apologize? We should be sorry that you don't have to pay for DLC? Am I wrong, or does that not make ANY sense?
Reply
Posted: Feb 12th 2009 2:16PM (Unverified) said
I guess those who game primarily on PC are elitist and arrogant because we hold our games to a quality standard, and see how diluted and dumbed down games have to be to be on consoles.
Case in point, Halo would have bombed if it was a PC exclusive.
Reply
Case in point, Halo would have bombed if it was a PC exclusive.
Sorry, you must be logged in to leave a comment.
Featured Stories
The most popular posts
in the last 7 days
- Vita 'UMD Passport' won't be offered in US 218 comments
- Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning review: A tempting fate 152 comments
- David Jaffe leaves Eat Sleep Play, layoffs hit developer [Update] 107 comments
- Don't call it a remake: Final Fantasy X is a 'remaster,' to be clear 95 comments
- Battleship movie adapted into FPS by Double Helix 92 comments
