Rare restructures, 'small number' of job losses possible

only games worth it to me that you listed are Viva Piñata

See my post below. I played all of those games sans Banj Kazooie and they all sucked. Now, Viva Pinata didn't suck like Kameo and Perfect Dark sucked but I couldn't get into it at all.

Like Aggie said Rare needs to find a way to somehow bring back Killer Instinct. If they could do that and it was somehow exclusive to the 360 I would buy another 360 just for that game.

Johnny, the VP games don't suck whatsoever.

Kameo is one of my favorite 360 games, and I have all of the 'big' games (GTA4, Gears, Halo,Fallout, etc.).

Honestly- I am a Nintendo Fanboy, but a big reason for me to get a 360 was Microsoft's ownership of Rare. I do not only buy Rare games, but it was a huge selling point for me.

I love my 360 :-)

They also released JetPac Refueled to the XLBA. GoldenEye WAS apparently ready for XBLA, but never released due to licensing issues.

I admit Perfect Dark was meh but Viva Piñata was fun but the problem is that they always release these games right when something like Halo or Gears shows up.

Also “the rest suck”, Aggie have you tried nuts and bolts? Is Awesome and the demo doesn't represent it fairly, there is a lot humor ,missions and the only game that is kinda like Super Mario Galaxy for the x360.

What I liked about Nuts & Bolts is that it rewards creativity and thinking outside of the box.

If you want to support Rare I heard Grabbed by the Ghoulies is going to be released in the xbox originals very soon also I heard it was a great game.

Grabbed by the Ghoulies is out as an Xbox Original. I just checked.

@Jeckyl: nah I havent played Nuts & Bolts just the demo. I will rent it but I dont see it being any better than the first one and thats the best bird in bag game out of the 3 to me.....

I believe that Rare's problems stem from the fact that not only are they victims of this extremely shitty economy but they are also victims of their own past successes. I don't think that it's bashing to suggest that their titles in recent years have been a bit lacking on the fun side- and this is important: *when compared to their previous titles*. I have played every single game Rare has released going back to Blast Corps for the N64, and I can say without a doubt that they peaked on the 64 as a developer and have done little since then that sticks with me, and yes, that includes the tremendously overrated Star Fox Adventures. Not to say that they haven't made *decent games*- that would be just plain wrong- but when you think about how much fun Jet Force Gemini, GoldenEye, Banjo 1&2, Blast Corps and Conker were (to name a few) as compared to PD0, Kameo, and the VP series there can be little argument that they have lost their fastball. Granted, they might be throwing in the high 80s, but that's a damn bit different than the 100 MPH Nolan Ryan Express they were throwing in 1996. I don't measure them against what everyone else is doing, I measure them against my expectation interest as is relates to their past triumphs. With the exception of Nuts & Bolts (which I haven't played) to say that every game that they have made has been "great" is pure wishful thinking. I hope more than anything that they hang around and can recapture their past glories with titles that make me glad I am a gamer- but I'm not holding my breath.

Amen to that. I'd love them resurrecting the Killer Instinct franchise.

Bringing back BK would also be a great idea. I'm still waiting for a sequel to BT.

there was a B-K racing game this Gen??

Yeah, Diddy Kong Racing on DS, IIRC, I heard it wasn't really up to par with Mario Kart DS.

If you mean Nuts and Bolts is not a racing game.

I think something like Battlebots would be a better example ecept Nuts & bolts is actually good.Viva Piñata is also fine.

My personal opinions on Rare games this gen:
-Perfect Dark Zero: Dumb as hell
-Kameo: Very fun, easily best launch 360 game. Kameo is underrated IMO.
-Viva Pinata: Couldn't get into it.
-Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts: I've played a little bit of it, but not enough to give a good opinion. I enjoyed what I played though. I do understand why old banjo fans wouldn't like it though.
-Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise: I dunno. It's coming from amazon right now so hopefully it's more intuitive than the original! I wanna like it.
Diddy Kong Racing DS: Eh...If you liked the original you would enjoy it. The 6 or 8 player online was cool, but it needs more items like Mario kart.

Nutman has the right idea but N&B is really underappreciated and easily one of best exclusives in the x360 with Dead Rising.

PDZ pretty meh, Viva Piñata I liked it but there wasn't enough things to do. Too many limitations I heard Trouble in Paradise is better tho’.

Why are you people kidding yourselves, I'm the biggest Rare fanboy here, and even I know N&B was a perfectly built piece of poo. Amazing presentation (as aways Rare,) but they forgot that it had to be a fun game that didn't get repetitive.

I thought N&B was awesome. I enjoyed it more than Tooie and almost as much as the original BK. But it's definitely different than those games. If you go in expecting or wanting pure traditional platforming you're likely to be let down.

@Tiptup300

Agreed. I had fun with it intill by 45th jiggy and by then I was praying for LOGs choice vehicles because I was so damn tired of building vehicles for simple tasks.

I said 360 games, but I guess Jetpack should count! :-)

Also, Viva Pinata Pocket Paradise (DS)

And the Banjo-Kazooie reissue/remake on XBLA, and coming shortly is Banjo-Tooie for XBLA.

Whoops! I own Banjo XBLA and I forgot about that.. haha

P.S.: i want to see Conkers Bad Fury Day on VC and a sequel on Wii!!!!!!!!!

It still wouldn't be the same.

Many of the people of the original Rareware have left

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rareware#Staff_departures

Hell, even the founders, Tim and Chris Stamper, left the company on 07

If the guys behind Nuts & Bolts can still do games for the Wii they should do so.
I could use more Wii titles.

The x360 corwd doesn't apreciates good original games more like "Tits and Gore or GTFO".

I can't vote you up enough for that comment.

They should totally go back with Nintendo,the games they are doing are not for the X360 usual crowd.Only KI 3 would sell in the x360.

They already have 5 retail games, 2 DS games, and 2 Arcade games!

How much more productive can a studio be?!

The problem is, their games do not cater to the 360 fanbase- and I hope it never does to a certain extent. I love Rare's charm, and to most that is 'kiddy.' Perfect Dark, Get Force Gemani, and Killer Instrict are the only franchises they have that do not seem 'kiddy.' Maybe they should try those out (PDZ was a good launch title, but by today's standards- its mediocre)?

Banjo Tooie is coming out in 2 months too!

Extremely well made? Yes
Extremely fun & timeless? No :(

I wouldn't quite say a mess, but it was boring.

Kameo is the best Rare game on a Microsoft console. Get it ASAP!

Grant Kirkhope still works at rare