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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 12:04PM (Unverified) said

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If the Australian OFLC somehow materialized into a living entity I would sit it down and have a harsh word with it, then proceed to swiftly beat the living daylights out of it.

As an Australian it really dissapoints me that something like this can happen. We have the entire gaming world asking why we can't have the R18+ rating, and all they can come up with is some shitty excuses most likely involving children and russian spies... or something, I just don't know anymore.
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 12:18PM (Unverified) said

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I'm Australian and have played through a few missions, and though I haven't yet seen that cutscene, I have noticed that the things cut from our original version, such as the controllable camera when with a hooker and blood pooling on the ground are back in Lost and Damned which is strange.
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 1:30PM (Unverified) said

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it's early in the game so i guess you aren't going to see it
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 12:58PM ScottG13 said

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Can we just admit that Australians are afraid of boobs and wieners?

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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 1:24PM (Unverified) said

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Ya main boobs and waynaz?
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 1:34PM ScottG13 said

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OY!
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 1:27PM Vidikron said

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I was reading about this yesterday on another site and someone said that R* wasn't actually forced to clean up GTAIV. They edited the content on their own assuming it would be rejected without the edits just as previous GTA games were.

But then when launched the PC version later in the year they decided to see what would happen if they submitted an unedited version and to their surprise it was rated. So that's why this is happening. Since they were successful with the unedited PC version they submitted an unedited L&D and it too was accepted and rated just as the PC version was.

I don't know if all that it true, but that's what others were saying.
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Posted: Feb 19th 2009 2:39PM JDAC said

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There are times when you think that here in the USA, we have a real problem with puritan thinking (think Janet Jackson).

Then you read about Australia and realize that while things have a long way to go til we reach enlightenment in America, the Land of Oz is speedily regressing to the biggest nanny-state in the world.

Good on ya, mates? Strewth!
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 6:26PM Qube said

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I'm actually a believer in Australia's ratings system - short of this of R18 debacle. It's the one damning mark that brings the entire OFLC into question, when the rest of the system (also applied to tv, films, dvd etc.) actually works.

For example, there is a meaningful age gap between mature (15+) and adult (18+) ratings (what is the fundamental difference between a 17 and 18 year old in the USA? nothing, that's what). Ratings are enforced at retail (yes, that's a good thing). The industry is not rating itself (yes, that's also a good thing).

Laugh all you want, but if the Australian attorneys general can agree that video games deserve the same ratings as video, the OFLC will have one of the better systems IMO.
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Posted: Feb 19th 2009 7:57AM Kombat Wombat said

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What you just described is the BBFC exactly! (Pretty much anyway, if the game were to be rated 12 plus, it has to go through the BBFC, if not, it can be self rated, but it would be illegal to pretend so that's pretty much a non-issue.)

The BBFC universally rates DVDs, Games, Films, etc., and has a 18+ rating for games. Generally I think the BBFC is one of the better systems, because it is very reasonable in it's ratings, actually plays the games, understands the marketplace, but most importantly of all is statutory.
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 3:40PM (Unverified) said

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Here we go again
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 7:17PM (Unverified) said

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eek, a penis
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 5:49PM mandiller said

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The wang is included in the Aus version. I've seen the cutscene.
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Posted: Feb 18th 2009 11:50PM (Unverified) said

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There are wangs, loads of wangs, we are up to arse in wangs.

Also there is more blood spray, blood splatter on screen and bigger pools of blood when you kill someone. AND when you pick up one of those ladies of negotionable affection for a little adult recreation you get the 'too much information' animation, whereas previously it was just a bouncing number plate.

Lost and the Damned is the unedited version of GTA IV. Unfortunately if you play as Nico all the edits are still in place.

Side note, the PC version of GTA IV was released with no edits in Australia as well. Proving that the Australian OFLC are just completely batshiat crazy.

Australian Gamers deserve more wang.
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Posted: Feb 19th 2009 4:45AM (Unverified) said

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its not all aussies you fools. its a couple of idiots in an office making decisions about things they know nothing about. idiots pandering to parents who use games as a babysitter and sook when things go wrong, blaming games/music anything but themselves and their shoddy parenting.

like a bunch of jack thompsons in an office that has the power to ban games. the real aussie gamers just want a damn +18 rating, but according to the people in power games are just for kids.
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