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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:34PM xValidToasterx said

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I really didnt think it was that good...
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:37PM The Kong said

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I second that
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 10:26PM (Unverified) said

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i third that xD
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:29PM (Unverified) said

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I 3rd that.

Is it really that hard to run and shoot at the same time? Let alone stab at the same time?
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 9:37PM (Unverified) said

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I'm an avid defender of the difficult controls in the old Metal Gear Solid games, and I agree. Even if Snake controlled like a clumsy retard, he didn't *look* like one.

I draw the line when I wish I was in the character's place because I could do a better job.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:34PM The Kong said

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Can we drop the race thing? It's a stupid argument, almost akin to me saying: "Ya know what, Viva Pinata is a fucking racist game, there's no black people". :/
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:59PM Hyams said

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Apparently it's racist to say that there are black people in Africa.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:37PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Let me just say that from some of the reviews I have read it's not the fact that it's blacks who are getting killed. It's other stereotypical behavior that is objectionable. I don't know because I haven't played the game.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 9:15PM ChrisAre said

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I don't agree w/ those who call the racism card, but here's what I think they're trying to say:

I don't think it has to do w/ the "blacks" thing, or "other stereotypes"- it has to do w/ the fact that there are still a lot of wounds that haven't been healed when it comes to prejudice against (mostly) African Americans. The game revolves around EXTREME violence towards Africans. Yes, the violence was targeted at Americans and Europeans in past gamesl, but that's not the point.

I guess it's kind of like a rape victim who doesn't want to watch a movie w/ a rape scene. It's hard to watch due to past experiences. I think more than anything people want others to acknowledge that this game will conjure up bad memories.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 9:27PM (Unverified) said

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I think it would be nice if that's what they wanted, but I think it's pretty clear from the analysis that most of them have just been trained to respond "HAY THATS RACIST," but in many more words, to certain imagery.

It isn't so much black people as much as certain academic disciplines, in my observation.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 11:41PM Brodo said

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I actually really like the way that they did the split screen. It takes a few minutes getting used to, but then I thought it was actually better.
The controls I still dont mind, im pissed there is no merchant, and im pissed that it will ALWAYS have to be played like its co-op.
But im still excited
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 12:43AM (Unverified) said

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our society is that black people get a free pass. look at the 50 cent game he's basically beating up on middle eastern people but whatevers i guess. at least in re5 they tried as best as they can to address the issue by adding several different infected (including a Stalin one).
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 8:45AM Rocketboy said

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" It's other stereotypical behavior that is objectionable."

What, are the zombies putting spinners on their whips, smoking crack, with their pants half hanging down? Are the zombies playing Braid stoned? Zombies trying to 'sex up' mario?
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:35PM (Unverified) said

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Hear that? Capcom ain't changing those controls ANYtime soon.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 12:45AM (Unverified) said

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ppl need to learn to suck less. good job for capcom to have the balls to say that to the casual fucktards.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 4:17AM (Unverified) said

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I loved the demo, I can't wait to get the full game. Co-Op was great fun I felt. It's not a horror survival anymore, it's just a horror action, much like Dead Space. I loved Dead Space. I love life
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:35PM ArtificeDrake formerly known as said

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That's Capcom for ya: Always putting off racism issues until a later date...
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:40PM MarkezJM said

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Yeah, my same MO at the office. I usually predicate any presentation, powerpoint, or project kickoff with "now as we move along on this, just keep any concerns about my racist business practices to yourselves, we can always address them at a later date, thanks"
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:10PM (Unverified) said

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maybe if you stopped throwing in all those random pictures of black people eating fried chicken, watermelon and grape drink...
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:18PM MarkezJM said

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IT LIGHTENS THE MOOD FOR ALL, DAMMIT.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:30PM (Unverified) said

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except for the black people?
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 11:00PM MarkezJM said

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Well right, yes, except for the black people.

Also, some of my business practices aren't that sensitive to hispanics either.

Or asians.

Or jewish people.

Anyway, you get the idea.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 12:40PM Rocketboy said

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Hey, you're not friendly to whites either.

Come on, you open up at 8 in the morning, 5 days a week. Like we're NOT going to show up on time. Geesh, give us a holiday off once and a while so we can take a break.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:38PM Levi said

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And I can't wait until it does shamble onto shelves. My gf reserved the CE in full for me for Valentine's Day. I bought Socom with the official Bluetooth mostly for RE5 (partially for KZ2).

This is one of the 1-game-every-month-till-at-least-June list :)
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:42PM (Unverified) said

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Yup - my list reads as folows
Feb: Killzone
Mar: SOCOM
Apr: RE5
May: Infamous / MAG/Op Flashpoint (whichever comes out)
June: Red Faction..

and last and definitely the best:
November: Uncharted 2
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:00PM (Unverified) said

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Shamble? You only used that term because its set in Africa. RACIST!
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 9:12PM WiredKnight said

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Oh man, you've got that rule too?
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 9:49PM Levi said

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I know lists get old, but if we're sharing... :)

Feb-June:
KZ2, RE5, Riddick, Bionic Commando, The Conduit.

Not counting Eat Lead, which I'll pick up whenever I have money, any PSN releases, and games that I don't know of a release date, like I Am Alive, Prototype, Infamous, Dark Void. Yay me, but not yay for my wallet or quality of life XD
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:40PM (Unverified) said

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It was dissapointing but I still cant believe that people are criticising this game so much, admitedly its just RE4 in HD, but RE4 was the best game of 2005 and possibly the best shooter of last gen. The online coop should be fun - somehow, after tasting the superb online coop of R2, I cant get enough of it. Maybe its the all-so-frequent moments when you and you teammate combine perfectly to kick the AI's ass in a way you alone could never do.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:44PM (Unverified) said

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How, exactly, is it 'racist' to treat black people just like everyone else (Spaniards, cross-dressing white dudes, rednecks)?

Instead of saying 'complaints of racism', try saying the truth: complaints of squeaky-wheel professional noisemakers like Al Sharpton.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:33PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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What does Al Shaprton have to do with anything?

Do you always have to bring your right wing bias into the forums? Seriously dude just go on the Hannity or O'Reilly forums with that right wing noise. This blog is about video games not your dumb ass agenda.

On to your comment:

How can you comment either way about it being racist until you actually *play* the damn game? You are assuming that there is no objectionable content within the content of the game without having played it. Instead of dismissing it why not take a wait and see approach and pass your final judgement after you get to play it.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 10:45PM (Unverified) said

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Penny Arcade's Tycho, Eurogamer.com, and Tom Chick have all played the full game and all three noted offensive racial imagery. These are fairly respected people/orgs in the gaming community, and the fact that they've actually played the full game means their opinions are at least informed. I find it depressing that so many commenters can declare the game to not be offensive at all when they haven't even played the game yet. It reminds me of the intellectual laziness that pervades 360 vs PS3 fanboy talk.



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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 1:29PM (Unverified) said

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"Penny Arcade's Tycho, Eurogamer.com, and Tom Chick have all played the full game and all three noted offensive racial imagery"

Of course - they're liberal douchebags! The liberal douchebag can't even wait for some opportunistic race-card baiter to make the complaint before agreeing with it; the whole thing started with some left-wing douchebag game reviewer saying that they "could see complaints of racial insensitivity" in the game.

Nothing unique happens to the zombies in this game because they're black. If you swapped the skin color you'd never even bother to think that something 'offensive' was going on - because the only way you find this game offensive is if you, yourself, are racist and think that black people need special 'image protection'. It's the same thing as complaining when someone uses a monkey in a cartoon to make vague reference to Obama when we heard for years how much Bush looks like a chimp (which he does).

Racial equality does not mean we police everything we say just in case one person in a shack in Overreactionville might get offended. It's about intent, not what you can read into it with your racist mind.

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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 2:13PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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So if someone finds the content offensive it means THEY are racist?

Wow you are truly a fucking retard. I suppose you and your other two college drop out friends Hannity and Rush can go on another personal crusade against "the liberal douchebags". There are douchebags on both sides of the aisle and YOU are one of them.

Douche aka Bass Masterson.

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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 5:45PM (Unverified) said

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"So if someone finds the content offensive it means THEY are racist?"

Yep. Look up the word 'racist', and you'll understand why: treating one race differently from any other is the definition of the term.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:46PM (Unverified) said

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Here goes the race thing again. I don't understand why people think its racist. If it is at all, as a white, I can say that Afro Samurai is racist back. Shows how immature a person is when they would bring that conversation up.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:21PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Until you play the final product and experience the game how can you comment either way?

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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:48PM Jacksons said

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I didn't care for the demo one bit, but I'll still give it a rent out of curiosity.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:53PM (Unverified) said

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I can see why there are a big number of downloads.

I had to download the demo 6 times because of the dreaded "Error occurred during install operation".
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:21PM bxgt said

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ps3?
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 10:20PM SirUrza said

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Buy a 360.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:57PM psyXcho said

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So I didn't have a problem with the no run n gun scenario.... What I have a problem with is the controls are stale as hell and make you feel robotic. Consoles have so many buttons yet you have to press 17 to get the player to use a damn knife... This game will be a definite rental which is sad due to the fact it was a definite purchase before the demo...
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 9:09PM WiredKnight said

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I think the last thing you said was pretty interesting.

A big argument against making pre-release demos is that it hurts the game's sales. But let's be honest here, if you had bought the game only to find out it's not what you expected and you don't like it, not only might you return it, negating the sale, but you'd feel ripped off, and might not buy the next game in the series.

So yes, while playing the demo before buying the game has turned you away from it, it's done so in a decidedly more friendly way.

Just a thought.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 10:34PM psyXcho said

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I agree, I am all for demos and I thank Capcom for giving the the choice. I don't think a demo could ever turn me away from a game I was interested completely and who knows it may end up a purchase as I am really interested in the game. I may just have to suck it up. I was pretty spoiled by the RE4 Wii controls sadly.... Never thought I'd say that for a Wii game.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 3:30PM Laser Sanchez said

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I only used two buttons to get to my knife...

Does the PS3 pad have 17 buttons? My 360 pad only has 10 or so.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 3:44PM psyXcho said

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I'm special. I duct-taped 3 ps3 and 7 xbox 360 controllers together. Then super glued a wiimote just for good measure. and by that of course I mean 2 hard to reach buttons. geeze laser ya shouldn't take the interwebs so seriously, you'll never get out alive :D
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 4:16PM Laser Sanchez said

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I'm just sifting through all of hte RE5 hate. I feel like people are just making up reasons to hate this game.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 4:24PM psyXcho said

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I think I was just spoiled by the Wii controls personally. Everything seemed so fluent on RE4 for Wii. Like I said I haven't given up on the game completely but I can't justify sacrificing $60 on something I could potentially hate with a passion.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 7:59PM (Unverified) said

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it was annoying to play this game, plain and simple. i'll admit some responsibility: i have no desire to practice getting good at the game. it realy felt like they were making tension solely by making the controls difficult and ammo scarce. the game feels like it should have dead space-like controls, and i should never have to reset the game just because i can't find any ammo: give me another option (the knife takes dozens of slashes to do anything)
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2009 8:11PM (Unverified) said

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I don't understand how I would "understand the controls" if I played the full game
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