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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:06PM mezzaninex said

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"Ima make a puzzizzle game"

oh wait that's snoop...
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:15PM TheDarkWayne said

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is your avatar from pete and pete?
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:22PM TheDarkWayne said

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damn, it was a minute ago
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:37PM Bananarama said

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No, I believe it's from the Mask comic book.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:43PM TheDarkWayne said

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yeah but a minute ago it was Mr Tastee from pete and pete
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 1:18AM Paragon8 said

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it's there if you click it.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 9:52AM MrHashbrown said

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Nah Snoops be hittin up Rock Band.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:12PM Ponza said

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Must admit, for a guy who's made a ton of money, and lots of different ways (Vitamin Water, I'm looking at you), he's got the right ideas there. I mean, marketing simple, 1-button games is a great idea, and those exact simple games are making the gaming market wider and wider in terms of gamers, whether casual or hardcore.

As for the context of his game, and the amount of swearing, phht, I've heard kids say worse around me, and they learn it from their parents most of the time, not games. The fact that his game has derogatory terms in it is just based on the heat of the moment. I know if some redneck cut me off down the road, I'd be pissed. And I AM a redneck.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 11:39PM iwantmymtv said

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Yeah, he answered the questions very well, in regards to how its M rated and the language used, etc. 50 seems very passionate about what he does and that is awesome!! I wish him the best of luck for this game and upcoming projects.

50, check out REZ and guitarooman and some of those other very different music games and put your twist on it!
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:52AM Ponza said

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Yes, Gitarooman, damn, love that game.

As for if 50 reads the comments, another "different" music game, even though it's only a bit on the different side, is Audiosurf. The music you pick makes the level for you. We really need more games like that.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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50 will find you and then dance on ya grave. He's Bullet Proof.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 10:07PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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officer down ... ricky call for backup
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:16PM RobAccomando said

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Know what I'm sayin'?
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:23PM (Unverified) said

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yeah I feel ya
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:28PM Sly C said

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yeah i know what i'm doin'
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 10:07AM Rocketboy said

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Yo dog, I gotz spinnerz on my spinnerz
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:20PM (Unverified) said

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so he gives you an interview, you give him 3 articles and a good review?

im sorry this reeks of quid-pro-quo.

EDIT: The "interview" was a conference call with a variety of other outlets (including 1UP and Kotaku). Justin did the game review, I did not. You couldn't be more *wrong*. Sorry buddy.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:20PM Ponza said

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At least Fiffy's Crystal Skull isn't, y'know, anything like the skull from Indiana Jones. Dat be sum messed up shit right thar.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:23PM Shmil said

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Am I the only one who didn't know what he was sayin?
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 10:26PM copa said

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No, but I didn't think Ben was very coherent either when he kept repeating 'youth of hip-hop and African-American culture' over and over again.

Fitty was tactful, but his point was essentially: When games like Gears of War 2 and Killzone 2 came out, were you grilling the designers over the repeated cursing? If not, why are you singling out this game?

EDIT: If you are implying that the kind of vulgarity heard in something like Killzone 2 is comparable with the racial epithets and derogatory terms used to describe women in 50's game, maybe you should rethink that. Feel free to e-mail me and we can discuss this. ben@joystiq.com :)
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 10:33PM Ozzy said

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my brain started hurting
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:30PM Discotheque said

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His music has been irrelevant these days though. Anybody remember when he said he would retire if Kanye West's album outsold his? That didn't work out so good.

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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:32PM (Unverified) said

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If you didn't figure out that was a marketing gimmick to drive both of their albums sales...you're slow...very very slow.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 11:03PM Negatron said

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Nice opinion, but you couldn't be more wrong with the "irrelevant" part. I listen to different genres of music. The rap stuff is my "business" and there are numerous factors as to why sales are fluctuating amongst different artists. You are entitled to your thoughts though, so uh, keep on thinking. LOL Kanye ...*shakes head*

[-20] for the name .

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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:36PM Omega Aero said

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What's with all the 50 Cent coverage lately?
Is Joystiq planning to open Joystiq [Fiddy]?
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:46PM (Unverified) said

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The was a pretty solid interview. He gets kind of weird after you fluster him by continuing the cursing tangent, but he actually sounds like he can carry a pretty intelligible conversation, which puts him above 80-90% of Hollywood.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 9:58PM TheDarkWayne said

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and then ascii rampaged through joystiq forever
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 10:06PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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It's a bit of an overkill to ask him the same exact question over and over again. He pretty much PWNED that interview . Way to go fiddy.

I guess Samfish was wrong ... Fiddy is a Wii gamer ... LOL
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 8:36AM xFenixKnightx said

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Are you serious with that Vaseline pic? Dude, Penn is a LAZY ass sore loser. Before the fight I was a fan but now I'm going for Florian all the way. Hope he smashes ole Pudge McAdams. So now he needs 4-5 months to recover from the fight and "to be with his daughter"? PFFT! Dana needs to tell him "look, UFC 99 vs Florian or you are stripped". He is the champion, IT IS HIS JOB! I'd be embarrased to have BJ as my screen name...
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 10:08PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Fuck Pedo Bear or whatever that is. Hopefully this doesn't start a new trend on Joystiq.
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 10:09PM embassy said

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As repulsive as some may consider 50, he's a smart dude. He knows how to exploit the system and get coverage and, most importantly, make craploads of money doing whatever he feels like. Plus, he can hold a conversation and get his point across, though it may be in a very smug, pompous way. He still has a since of humor and I'm glad to see Ben just went along for the ride and had fun with it.

entertaining article.

"Oh, you're a white guy. I could kinda figure that out through your tone of voice. Check this out, Ben." - I imagined this point of the conversation in my head and just died laughing. Fif is hilarious.



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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 2:09AM spddrcr said

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do you guys really believe he's that smart? dont you think after trying to defend his music a million times with the same response that he's still smart? Im sorry but for every black american out there trying to do away with racial slurs and the stereo type of the young urban black man there are 100 of these thugs using that stereo typical image to get rich.

yet the second a white guy uses the big bad N word those 100 thugs get all up in arms about it and all of a sudden someone's a racist. any one of african american decent should just keep dreaming about a world of racial equality with these types of people in our world influincing the kids.:(
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 3:59AM Sone said

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He's still around?! This man's 15 minutes were over half an hour ago...put a fork in him!
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 10:14PM charleytony said

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I love that he is promoting a "gears of war" type game and he still pimps Tetris !!

cool
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 10:32PM OMGOMG said

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Best post ever?
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Posted: Feb 24th 2009 10:54PM ZenGaijin said

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I picked the game up from work and I'm surprised by it its a damn good game. It's not must buy or anything but if it drops 20 bucks or so go ahead and pick it up.

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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:10AM Deone said

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I totally loved this interview. Ben, you seem to feel pretty strongly about the effect of 50's game specifically on the youth of the African American Culture. I know there is only so much you can talk about, but it was kinda off topic for the nature of the website. 50 was a little challenging in his replies, so I could see how you may have felt baited, we couldn't hear his tone, but I can imagine.

I'm really surprised by him, he fielded your questions pretty smoothly. Not the most eloquent rhetoric I've seen, but to the point.

The line of questioning didn't seem fair though. As a gamer (I assume) yourself, some of us would think that you need to be defending our right to play, develop, and experience what we want. What is in the game, as far as language and the connotations behind it, isn't something that you wouldn't find in(almost) any rap album.

Obviously, the biggest impulse buyers for this title are going to be his hardcore fans, primarily; probably followed by other fans of rap in general, predominately African American (I would thing). They aren't going to be exposed to anything they normally wouldn't be, except for a tight gameplay package wrapped around it.

He made a good point saying its rated mature. I know you can argue that a rating isn't going to deter a younger audience from playing a title. Call of Duty's and GTA online are both examples of this phenomnon. But... is there cop killing in it? Picking up prostitutes? Selling and/or imbibing drugs or other chemicals, actually adding a fun(ish) gameplay gimmick? Nuking an entire town of innocent people with a bomb, which some citizens of the town worship as a false idol? Surviving an explosion and getting a transgender sex change in the sequel if you choose to? Screwing aliens? Sex mini games.

Many block buster titles are referenced in the above paragraph, and we (or you at Joystiq, as far as I can tell) don't give it a second thought. Parents have a responsibility to their childrens upbringing. Not the different avenues of media. Some 14 year olds probably are mature enough or educated enough to play the GTA series. Most probably can do it without going on a psychotic rampage. And from the sound of the review of 50's game, its a much less realistic or immersive experience than can be achieved with other avenues.

In a way, you almost marginalize the African American (sub)culture and the youth contained within by thinking that them playing this game could change their outlook on ho's and bitches. Not as bad as some of the probably white posters satirically speaking slang on the comments, but perhaps worse because you don't give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm certainly not making it a race issue, because I'm not getting started down the road, but feel like you are (granted, you preceded each "African American Culture" with "Hip-Hop culture" but you see my point?)

Sorry this got so long, I would have emailed you as requested had I known I would go on forever.

And delete that damn ascii bear. Off topic, oh - and *$&.

Feel free to email me if you are unable to be more succint than my blow hard ass (no pun intended), i gave a lot of points to defend.

I loved the interview. You stayed on point and illicited some entertaining responses in the process. Any way you slice it, even if i don't agree with you're methods or points you seemed to be trying to get across, thats your job; and you did a good one! I wonder if there is a character max.
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Posted: Feb 26th 2009 9:56PM Deone said

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Did it really edit the word gay? I can drop the F Bomb and the poop bomb but not say gay. Intriguing.

EDIT: I edited the word, not the commenting system. In the context you've used it above, it is not out of context nor being used in a derogatory sense. And thus, it's lack of edit.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:13AM Deone said

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And whoever thought this was quid-pro-quo, or a marketing agreement, HA! Doesn't get much more straight up than this.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 1:31AM jhowlett said

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i liked what 50 had to say
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 2:09AM (Unverified) said

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Was anybody else floored at the coherency of his responses? I mean, I am not a fan of his music and probably have a cartoonish characature of in my head about him, but that was way more than I expected. Then again, you don't make that kind of business diversity as a dumbass. Shitty part being that kids that are too young to play his game that actually want to will realistically have no problem obtaining a copy. They would already have some of his albums which have explict content, just not interactive. I am going to rent it, but might play it with my settings to 'appear offline' to retain my street cred as a nerdcore douchebag.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 2:39AM (Unverified) said

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I am a fan of 50. Not only was his older music the shit but it was also straight up and about his life. So I am glad to see a rapper that I not only like, but one who seems to have his head screwed on right doing well for himself and not having his game crucified.

In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing what he has up his sleeve for future game ideas.

And yeah to hear anything at all that you would hear in his game elsewhere? Go on Xbox live for 5 minutes. Every 10 year old on the planet has a more colorful vocabulary than I am sure this game has. (And believe me I love the xbox and live so I'm not dissing it because I don't like it)

And the best part of it all?

He isn't soulja boy.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 3:27AM nikescar said

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I actually almost consciously made it through the first actual answer in the actual interview, y'know what I mean? I had the opportunity to inject Fiddy's actual ideas about the actual games industry but I couldn't actually, consciously make it through the actual, conscious interview.


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Posted: Feb 26th 2009 9:12PM (Unverified) said

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I'm glad someone pointed this out. He may have had some good points, and I realize this was a written transcription of a telephone call, but it was hard for me, as a native English speaker, to find meaning amid the aborted attempts at beginning sentences. What I mean is... You know what I'm, ya know, saying?

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that instead of a standard reply to a comment, Ben speaks his piece in an edit to the actual post?

Finally, nowhere does Mr. Cent imply that his projection system is used solely for gaming. He could very well watch racquetball highlights videos on it as well. It seems like more than one person in this conference call was in favor of maximizing Mr. Cent's image as a gamer. Note: I half expect this post to get edited instead of replied to.

EDIT: I'm replying in the comment 'cause it's easier and more direct for me. I will stop if I see enough folks decrying it. Otherwise, I'm sorry that it bothered you.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 7:20AM Jinn35 said

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i love fiddy!
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 7:22AM (Unverified) said

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To those of you comparing this game to GTA and Gears asking "why oh why didn't people come out over that language," it is not the same thing. 50 is a property that is bigger than just his game. As the headliner, producer, partial financier of this game, and representative of hip-hop culture, it's pretty fair to be asked the questions Ben asked. Sure, the game's rated M, and that definitely will stop impressionable youngsters from playing it, right?

Please. Ben, you should have asked him if his concerts are rated M, and if he has people checking ID's at the door to make sure none of those kids are getting in. But I guess, that would make the interview a little too confrontational. Nicely done anyway. Now, let's get to that Souljaboy interview...
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 9:01AM (Unverified) said

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i dont think most realize that often 50 pays a character. to run a bussiness like he does you need t be smart.

im glad to hear people are learning that just becuse a rapper talks abouts money hoes and rims it doesnt mean there dumb. there jsut giving what fans want
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 10:10AM (Unverified) said

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WHERE MUH SKULL?!

Loved the interview. Game looks dope.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 1:01PM (Unverified) said

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I've never read so much useless jibbajabba. 50 cent can say 1,000 words and convey nothing, except his apparent confusion.

He's being responsible to his fans by making the plot fictional in the game, yet he's got it loaded with swearing to make it more like his real life? Never interview this guy's actually actual terminologies again.
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Posted: Feb 26th 2009 9:17PM (Unverified) said

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Watch out, white America. Blacks can tell you are white through telephone wires. I call witchcraft on that.
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