How do you know when your corporation might have become just a touch too rich and powerful? Well, calling out entire countries should set off a few warning bells. Nintendo has just sent out a release detailing exactly which countries it's got a bone to pick with and why.
The company's beef is piracy, which it says the U.S. needs to do a better job battling in China, Korea, Brazil, Mexico, Spain and Paraguay. Check out the full list of offenses after the break. As always, we remind Nintendo that the battle against piracy has to begin and end on the High Seas. Cut off their citrus supply and you'll be stuffing them in scurvy crates and shipping them back to Neverland before you can say Davy Jones' Locker.
Below is a summary of Nintendo's filing:
PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA: China continues to be the hub of production for counterfeit Nintendo video game products. The number of online shopping sites in China selling infringing Nintendo products is increasing, and help is needed by the government to curtail the growth of these illegal marketplaces. These products are sold both inside China and to the world, including our key market in the United States. Chinese customs officials must stop shipments of game copiers and other infringing products out of China, and China should work in the coming year to eliminate barriers to its enforcement laws.
REPUBLIC OF KOREA: Internet piracy in Korea continues to increase, as does the availability of devices that get around product security and allow for the play of illegal Nintendo software. A massive customs raid of 10 premises that resulted in the seizure of more than 75,000 game copiers at the beginning of 2009 is a positive sign the government is serious about enforcement. Nintendo is pleased with Korea's consistent customs seizures, and courts are now starting to hold distributors of circumvention devices, such as game copiers, accountable. The Korea-U.S. free trade agreement is important to all intellectual property rights holders.
BRAZIL: Federal anti-piracy actions are not reducing piracy in Brazil, and local enforcement efforts are weak. Efforts to prosecute for piracy are virtually nonexistent. Customs and border control agents failed to seize a single shipment of Nintendo video game products in Brazil in 2008. Internet piracy is increasing with no legal infrastructure in place to respond to the threat it poses to rights holders. High tariffs and taxes also constitute market barriers for legitimate video game products.
MEXICO: Anti-piracy actions by the Mexican government in 2008 were wholly inadequate. The Mexican government must recognize the seriousness of the piracy problem and start using existing enforcement tools. Mexico's participation in negotiating the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement is encouraging, but enforcement efforts need to move forward now. The willingness of Mexican customs and Mexican postal service workers to be trained by trademark owners was a positive sign in 2008.
SPAIN: The availability of game-copying devices in Spain is alarming. Internet sites offering game-copying devices and illegal Nintendo software are widespread and must be addressed. Nintendo asks that the Spanish government implement laws protecting the creative copyright industry and enact laws against Internet piracy. Nintendo considers education a priority in its fight against piracy in the European Union. Customs authorities play an important role in enforcing intellectual property rights, and Nintendo is seeing positive signs in this area. Nintendo is pleased about recent steps taken by the Spanish National Police against distributors of game copiers.
PARAGUAY: Corruption continues to hamper anti-piracy efforts. Nintendo's anti-piracy actions in Paraguay show that illegal goods are imported and also locally produced. Border controls are key to decreasing piracy, and the revised criminal code will increase penalties against those distributing circumvention devices in Paraguay.
Reader Comments (98)
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 11:20AM Duke said
Whooooa Nintendo! You want the US to do a better job stopping piracy for you? I think you need to do a better job stopping it yourself. Hell, you have more money than our country right now, so build a navy and go get them pirates. (Patrol the coast of Somalia while your at it. Thanks!)
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 11:28AM fallenblue said
At first, I thought that Nintendo asking the US to fight piracy in foreign countries was ridiculous.
Then I remembered that the Bush Administration self-appointed America as the police of the world, to go and fight evil wherever it is.
Then I remembered that the Bush Administration self-appointed America as the police of the world, to go and fight evil wherever it is.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 1:15PM (Unverified) said
We've been the police of the world since the Spanish-American War.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 11:39AM samfish said
Man, I bet your SAT scores will be sky high when you're old enough to take them.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 11:44AM Mabui said
I wonder if it can be considered Ironic that everything Nintendo makes is made in China, and is also their biggest threat.
As for the issue, I'm not sure where I stand on it. Nintendo of America does a lot of business, I'm not sure how many people they really employ though. I also do recall them not lining up when the bailouts were being handed out. Maybe this is just their way of asking for something they don't really deserve to have as well?
It seems to me more like a "While you're out there, and considering your deals with these places, please take into a account that they don't care about your intellectual property owners"
Then again, I don't really know anything.
As for the issue, I'm not sure where I stand on it. Nintendo of America does a lot of business, I'm not sure how many people they really employ though. I also do recall them not lining up when the bailouts were being handed out. Maybe this is just their way of asking for something they don't really deserve to have as well?
It seems to me more like a "While you're out there, and considering your deals with these places, please take into a account that they don't care about your intellectual property owners"
Then again, I don't really know anything.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 11:50AM samfish said
I can't help but laugh at the fanboys who think it's wrong for Nintendo to call out countries that are pirating games. Maybe you dimwits saying Nintendo can't tell America what to do should click on the Source link up there and read the first paragraph...
I mean, the AUDACITY of a company with an independently operated American branch is asking the American government for help in combating piracy! Those presumptive sons of bitches!
I mean, the AUDACITY of a company with an independently operated American branch is asking the American government for help in combating piracy! Those presumptive sons of bitches!
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:12PM (Unverified) said
microsoft doesn't ask japan to help with piracy in mexico (i don't think they do at least)
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 11:51AM (Unverified) said
A system shortage and game shortage at the same time. Has that ever happened before to a console (obviously excluding launch period).
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 11:52AM Oobgarm said
samfish is my new hero.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:12PM Nysik said
TEAM AMERICA ... $^@& YA!!!!!
WE'RE GONNA KICK YOUR MOTHER $^@&ING @$$
WE'RE GONNA KICK YOUR MOTHER $^@&ING @$$
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:16PM hosaphat said
Poor Justin...baby pirates have just never caught the eye of the Internet..
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:23PM (Unverified) said
If they didnt make it so easy to copy games and such then people would think twice, Also with the ever increasing internet connexions people are finding it even easier and faster to download the copyrighted material.
Its not all down to places like The Pirate Bay, Rapidshare and some of the other file hosting sites contain pirated material.
Its just the way the cookie crumbles.
Its not all down to places like The Pirate Bay, Rapidshare and some of the other file hosting sites contain pirated material.
Its just the way the cookie crumbles.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:27PM (Unverified) said
samfish
I can't help but laugh at your stupid ass for your inability to read, think, or reason.
Just to give us something else to laugh at you for, why don't you tell us in your infinite wisdom, precisely what legal options you think America has to combat piracy in China, Mexico, Korea, Brazil, Paraguay, or Spain.
Do you think the US can put police officers on airplanes, and fly them to these foriegn countries and then use them to enforce American law?
Or are you just some retard who doesn't know WTF you are talking about?
My money is on the latter.
I can't help but laugh at your stupid ass for your inability to read, think, or reason.
Just to give us something else to laugh at you for, why don't you tell us in your infinite wisdom, precisely what legal options you think America has to combat piracy in China, Mexico, Korea, Brazil, Paraguay, or Spain.
Do you think the US can put police officers on airplanes, and fly them to these foriegn countries and then use them to enforce American law?
Or are you just some retard who doesn't know WTF you are talking about?
My money is on the latter.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 1:35PM MarkezJM said
Maybe don't be such a jerk all the time? Some excerpts from your post history:
"I can't help but laugh at your stupid ass for your inability to read, think, or reason."
"You must be joking."
"And you sir, are an idiot."
"God you people are stupid."
"Good job on being a dumbass."
"Your ingorant bullshit is just that, ignorant bullshit."
We're glad to have you in the Joystiq community at all, thanks for joining a cuppla months ago, but you don't have to be a jerk everywhere you go.
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"I can't help but laugh at your stupid ass for your inability to read, think, or reason."
"You must be joking."
"And you sir, are an idiot."
"God you people are stupid."
"Good job on being a dumbass."
"Your ingorant bullshit is just that, ignorant bullshit."
We're glad to have you in the Joystiq community at all, thanks for joining a cuppla months ago, but you don't have to be a jerk everywhere you go.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:29PM TheDarkWayne said
You can do it Justin! Make Capn Baby Pirate a meme!
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:52PM spin cycle said
Why does the US need to battle piracy in foreign countries to benefit a Japanese company?
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:54PM Bouillestfu said
Do what you want cause a Pirate is free.
You are a Pirate!
Now... who cooks by the book?
You are a Pirate!
Now... who cooks by the book?
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 12:56PM Nadril said
Think I'll go download some more games for my NDS just out of spite. I can't for the life of me figure out what I'd want to actually play though.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 1:57PM (Unverified) said
dragon quest v and retro game challenge, off the top of my head
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Posted: Feb 25th 2009 1:17PM JoshMilewski said
Yeah, this is good, but I also don't like that homebrew gets swept away along with piracy.
I mean, yes, the same hardware that allows homebrew also allows piracy, so if we want to minimize piracy we also have to kill off homebrew, but I just wish there was some way to keep homebrew around...
I mean, yes, the same hardware that allows homebrew also allows piracy, so if we want to minimize piracy we also have to kill off homebrew, but I just wish there was some way to keep homebrew around...
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 1:23PM phenylketonurics said
Haha, the "Nintendo is pleased..." referring to Spain's anti-piracy efforts greatly entertains me. Like some dystopian leader, Nintendo is pleased.
But really... piracy is why these games cost so much in foreign countries to make up for the yadda-yadda. And inflation and the economy and a hundred other things. And for drama! "Some men just like to watch the world burn."
But really... piracy is why these games cost so much in foreign countries to make up for the yadda-yadda. And inflation and the economy and a hundred other things. And for drama! "Some men just like to watch the world burn."
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 2:04PM (Unverified) said
Yarr-Harr-tiddly-dee-dee. Do what you want cause a pirate is free. If you love to sail the sea, you are a pirate.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 2:13PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
It looks like the only home video game console without a huge piracy issue is the PS3. It's mostly because of their use of Blu-Ray as standard. Now, there are people that share PSN accounts and acquire games that way but it is limited to 5 accounts and doesn't work for all games i.e. warhawk. This isn't to act as if Sony isn't immune to piracy because we all know that the PSP is the mecca of piracy.
This is going to sound pretty harsh but I say Fuck Nintendo. It's their responsibility to put safeguards in place to protect itself from piracy. If they want to foot the bill for the operations then fine but America has enough issues without having to fight Nintendos battles for them. In case anyone misses all of our resources are going towards the Middle East and this fabricated economic collapse. Give the companies tax payer money so they can loan the shit back to us at a higher interest rate ... get the fuck out of here.
Here is the best and most coherent plan to bring America out of it's recession wihtout spending trillions of dollars. Take 1 billion dollars and divide it evenly among every legal resident who is 18 years of age or older. That's probably going to be somewhere around 500k-900k a person. Then, tax that shit at a 50% rate so you get half the money back anyway. Housing crisis SOLVED, debt issues SOLVED, cashflow issues SOLVED and the economy would stimulated because everyone would have disposable income. It would pick everything right back up and get blood flowing through the economy. That shit won't ever happen because this whole thing is about theft anyway. With what 60+ billion un accounted for from the first bailout. It's just a way for the banker gangsters (banksters) to line their pockets with even more money.
I'm outta here ... need to eat something after all of that bullshit.
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This is going to sound pretty harsh but I say Fuck Nintendo. It's their responsibility to put safeguards in place to protect itself from piracy. If they want to foot the bill for the operations then fine but America has enough issues without having to fight Nintendos battles for them. In case anyone misses all of our resources are going towards the Middle East and this fabricated economic collapse. Give the companies tax payer money so they can loan the shit back to us at a higher interest rate ... get the fuck out of here.
Here is the best and most coherent plan to bring America out of it's recession wihtout spending trillions of dollars. Take 1 billion dollars and divide it evenly among every legal resident who is 18 years of age or older. That's probably going to be somewhere around 500k-900k a person. Then, tax that shit at a 50% rate so you get half the money back anyway. Housing crisis SOLVED, debt issues SOLVED, cashflow issues SOLVED and the economy would stimulated because everyone would have disposable income. It would pick everything right back up and get blood flowing through the economy. That shit won't ever happen because this whole thing is about theft anyway. With what 60+ billion un accounted for from the first bailout. It's just a way for the banker gangsters (banksters) to line their pockets with even more money.
I'm outta here ... need to eat something after all of that bullshit.
/rant
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 4:58PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
Jerico
You are wrong my friend. Every legal citizen 18 and older. I don't remember the math exactly but it would be in the 500k range a person. Then, you tax that amount at 50% and get half of it back anyway. I'll have to post the exact figures later on when I get home. I'm not talking every American just LEGAL residents 18 and over.
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You are wrong my friend. Every legal citizen 18 and older. I don't remember the math exactly but it would be in the 500k range a person. Then, you tax that amount at 50% and get half of it back anyway. I'll have to post the exact figures later on when I get home. I'm not talking every American just LEGAL residents 18 and over.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 7:59PM jerico2k said
Get a calculator: Divide 1billion dollars by $500,000/person you get 2,000 people!
Are you talking about permanent residents? If you are I'm sure there are more than 2,000 of them. Secondly isn't that an arbitrary way of deciding which minority gets 1billion to split between them. Why not just give it everyone w/ the last night of Williams?
There are over 150million citizens over the age of 18
http://www.censusscope.org/us/chart_age.html
Splitting a billion evenly would give everyone everyone about 7 bucks.
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Are you talking about permanent residents? If you are I'm sure there are more than 2,000 of them. Secondly isn't that an arbitrary way of deciding which minority gets 1billion to split between them. Why not just give it everyone w/ the last night of Williams?
There are over 150million citizens over the age of 18
http://www.censusscope.org/us/chart_age.html
Splitting a billion evenly would give everyone everyone about 7 bucks.
Posted: Feb 26th 2009 6:09AM (Unverified) said
Dude, don't try to explain math to johnny.
He has posted about 50 times how once you add up everything in the PS3 with everything in the 360 that you "need" for gaming, PS3 is actually cheaper.
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He has posted about 50 times how once you add up everything in the PS3 with everything in the 360 that you "need" for gaming, PS3 is actually cheaper.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 2:27PM Ridgecity said
Actually, with sucess comes piracy. Unless you are Apple, these guys can be a little too lawyery.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 2:28PM Kif said
Finding grammatical loopholes in a statement perfectly understood by everyone else does not make you any less of a douchebag.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 2:51PM ScottG13 said
What the heck are people pirating? I haven't bought a game since Boomblox game out for either hardware platform.
This is clearly just smoke and mirrors from Nintendo.
This is clearly just smoke and mirrors from Nintendo.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 3:18PM (Unverified) said
The US government is a little busy.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 3:45PM (Unverified) said
Piracy problem in Mexico is still important, but there are 3 ways that must be solved before beating piracy issues:
a) The Carteles and Crime Syndicates in Mexico are strong, the most of you accept that our country is dangerous and I, living in Guadalajara, do not doubt it, even that I live in one of the more secure cities in the country (the border and some states in the south, actually is where you can find danger). But, also those carteles are putting anti-piracy fight in jeopardy as long as they use the piracy as a way to make "clean money" in expenses of poor mexicans economy.
Solution = The American druggies are the consumers of mexican drug... just encourage them to do not consume it and you will see how drug lords stop investing in piracy.. I bet it.
b) The videogame providers also abuse of mexican market... several games are not having a nice price due that companies as Nintendo and Activision do not have a direct provider to mexican retail stores and the intermediate companies put a high price... Do you expect to pay almost 400 dollars in a Wii or almost 100 dollars for Guitar Hero: Metallica? Me, a poor mexican gamer, neither...
Solution = Nintendo should work more in to put more direct providers of games in Mexico if they wish to win the battle against Microsoft (Mexico is one of the strongest markets in XBox Live)....
c) Mexican economy is not nice... if american market is declining.. the US Dollar climbs prices and mexican gamer should conformate to keep a consumismo culture "con su mismo juego"... (with the same game...)
Solution = hmm... i am afraid no one is available... :S
a) The Carteles and Crime Syndicates in Mexico are strong, the most of you accept that our country is dangerous and I, living in Guadalajara, do not doubt it, even that I live in one of the more secure cities in the country (the border and some states in the south, actually is where you can find danger). But, also those carteles are putting anti-piracy fight in jeopardy as long as they use the piracy as a way to make "clean money" in expenses of poor mexicans economy.
Solution = The American druggies are the consumers of mexican drug... just encourage them to do not consume it and you will see how drug lords stop investing in piracy.. I bet it.
b) The videogame providers also abuse of mexican market... several games are not having a nice price due that companies as Nintendo and Activision do not have a direct provider to mexican retail stores and the intermediate companies put a high price... Do you expect to pay almost 400 dollars in a Wii or almost 100 dollars for Guitar Hero: Metallica? Me, a poor mexican gamer, neither...
Solution = Nintendo should work more in to put more direct providers of games in Mexico if they wish to win the battle against Microsoft (Mexico is one of the strongest markets in XBox Live)....
c) Mexican economy is not nice... if american market is declining.. the US Dollar climbs prices and mexican gamer should conformate to keep a consumismo culture "con su mismo juego"... (with the same game...)
Solution = hmm... i am afraid no one is available... :S
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 4:20PM juggalotusmx said
Its Funny all this crap about mexico, first off all the drug problems are 100% related to the HIGH demand of all the american citizens, the biggest consumer in the world. I wonder how many of those universities are full of junkies and such, but their experimenting so it must be right. 2nd all the violence is produced by fire arms that came from yes the states, the biggest Weapon Dealer in the world, all of them illegal weapons btw. so we love to throw a rock and hide our hand. 3rd open your eyes ppl, big companies are flooding our market with patented DRUGS!! drugs that are tested in lil childrens in yes ARIZONA to fight FAKE mental illness. mexico sux but we are not?
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 5:09PM sear said
I have to wonder if Nintendo's gonna get picked on by someone for these sorts of comments. Accusing the officials in Paraguay of being corrupt is bad enough to offend some people, but saying it's one of the major reasons why piracy is so prevalent is really quite crazy.
I'm also finding it strange how the United States and Canada are not on this list. Game copying through mechanical means (i.e. counterfeit copies) is not very common, but digital piracy rates are very high overall, across all media. I have the feeling that there are some toes they just don't want to step on.
I'm also finding it strange how the United States and Canada are not on this list. Game copying through mechanical means (i.e. counterfeit copies) is not very common, but digital piracy rates are very high overall, across all media. I have the feeling that there are some toes they just don't want to step on.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 5:18PM Unab8d Ly4m said
Awww...Nintendo is mad because someone has already come out with a flashcart that works on the DSi. :'(
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 5:24PM Unab8d Ly4m said
Firearms do not produce violence. Viloence is a human characteristic, not a characteristic of a mechanical objects. Remember, that that the mechanical objects you speak of (firearms) have to be used by a human in order for the projectile incased in that mechanical object to be released into the atmosphere. Hopefully, landing that projectile into what it was aimed at by the human.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 6:49PM juggalotusmx said
so according to you A sponge is the exact same thing as an AK-47
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Posted: Feb 26th 2009 6:14AM (Unverified) said
That depends, do you have an assinine fear of sponges?
Idiot.
A gun is not inherently bad.
People having guns aren't automatically murderers.
Murderers don't always use guns.
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Idiot.
A gun is not inherently bad.
People having guns aren't automatically murderers.
Murderers don't always use guns.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 5:53PM holyice7 said
My Brazilian friend explains it to me thusly;
They have to pay 80% of any given product's price, plus the shipping, in import taxes.
That comes out to anywhere from R$1,200 to R$1,500 for a Nintendo Wii, which roughly translates to about $600 American, more that double the MSRP.
In order for these countries to battle rampant piracy, they'd have to re-structure their entire economy. That's not me saying it's a great system to begin with, but it's not as simple as just cracking down on a few nerds burning discs.
They have to pay 80% of any given product's price, plus the shipping, in import taxes.
That comes out to anywhere from R$1,200 to R$1,500 for a Nintendo Wii, which roughly translates to about $600 American, more that double the MSRP.
In order for these countries to battle rampant piracy, they'd have to re-structure their entire economy. That's not me saying it's a great system to begin with, but it's not as simple as just cracking down on a few nerds burning discs.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 7:14PM original fred said
This thread is made of equal parts win and fail.
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 7:27PM (Unverified) said
Aww.. .you people stopped being so angry. It was fun to read.
I think it's great that Nintendo is becoming a world power, personally. Soon, Nintendo will take over Japan and rename it "Nintendo." From there, they get their robot army, using innovative controls and low-power weaponry, to take over China and subsequently the world. The name "Earth" will be changed to "Nintendo" and the common language will be Japanese, or "Nintendogo."
I think it's great that Nintendo is becoming a world power, personally. Soon, Nintendo will take over Japan and rename it "Nintendo." From there, they get their robot army, using innovative controls and low-power weaponry, to take over China and subsequently the world. The name "Earth" will be changed to "Nintendo" and the common language will be Japanese, or "Nintendogo."
Posted: Feb 25th 2009 10:41PM (Unverified) said
Correcting to what holyice7 said:
Custom taxes here aren't 80%.It's 60% of the "estimated value" (this being the value that Customs think a product is worth).
So, If you buy a Wii on a sale for, let's say, $200, when it arrives Customs can declare that no matter you paid $200, the value it's $250, so you must pay $150 of taxes.
Plus, it's notorius that Brazilian Post Office and Customs here are either incompetent or blatant corrupt (or both), as things that people buy in e-bay/online stores never arrive in their homes and no one can locate where it got lost. .
Custom taxes here aren't 80%.It's 60% of the "estimated value" (this being the value that Customs think a product is worth).
So, If you buy a Wii on a sale for, let's say, $200, when it arrives Customs can declare that no matter you paid $200, the value it's $250, so you must pay $150 of taxes.
Plus, it's notorius that Brazilian Post Office and Customs here are either incompetent or blatant corrupt (or both), as things that people buy in e-bay/online stores never arrive in their homes and no one can locate where it got lost. .







