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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 10:50PM (Unverified) said

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Burnout has been out for more than a year and it still looks leagues better than Godfather 2. Man G2 looks like crap.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:00PM B1gSl1Ck said

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i thought the same thing till i realized g2 has to deal with character models which undoubtedy saps processing resources...
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:01PM Shane86 said

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It looks like a ps2 game in HD.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:00AM zuburi said

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It looks like somebody duct taped two PS2 games together!
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:05AM KeenCommander said

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Don't insult PS2 games in HD. Gran Turismo 4 looked much better than that.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:45AM Jerk Face said

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Seriously, it looks really really bad. I have no idea how they thought they could release something so last gen-looking in ought nine. These aren't stylized graphics, these aren't cell shaded cartoon-style graphics. They're just ugly. You don't have to be a graphics-whore to see it.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 1:18AM (Unverified) said

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Do you guys really care that much about graphics? Really? It doesn't look as bad as everyone is making it sound.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 6:50AM kevinski said

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It isn't a crime to care so much about graphics if you own a console that is clearly capable of doing better. If G2 was released only on Wii, then this would be excusable, but this looks terrible for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 9:51AM (Unverified) said

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Burnout looks so eye-meltingly pretty that you really don't want your game compared with it, anywhere.
Especially when it looks like horseshit.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 4:24PM xxxsam said

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Yeah. For Wii owners like me, it's particularly disappointing that they've managed to make a game which looks like it's running on a Wii even on PS3/60, but there isn't even a Wii version?

(Then again - maybe it doesn't have insane draw-in like the first on Wii.)
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 10:53PM sear said

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But aren't the cars from Burnout based on real models? How do we know Godfather isn't just taking its design from an actual car?
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:27PM Sly C said

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both are under EA, so it's certainly not out of the question.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:33AM iHavePants said

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Developers /=/ Publishers.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 7:15AM bmill3 said

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Yeah, that car is based on the GTO and the back end is based off the 60's mustang.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 7:17AM JXCGunrunna said

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ihavepants i believe u were looking for developers =/= publishers
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 8:59AM iHavePants said

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I believe you are correct sir, ignore my crazy finger words.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 10:58PM XGM said

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The cars from burnout are based on 2 real cars each. The one pictured is the front end from a Pontiac Firebird, and if I recall the rear of a Mustang...
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:53PM falcomadol said

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Rear of a 67 Mustang indeed.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:11PM Twinturbo120 said

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Is it that hard to get a license for real cars? Or do they really want to do everything themselves.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:19PM DanteSparda504 said

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Well I don't know about Godfather but I know Criterion is unable to acquire the rights to real cars due to the car owners not wanting to see the cars destroyed in Burnout.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:54PM acme64 said

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Thats BS, because there's damage modeling in GRID and Forza.

They simply don't want to pay the money for the licenses. Makes develppment cheaper
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:13AM (Unverified) said

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It's the same reason Need for Speed dosn't have any people. The car manufactures don't want people getting hit with their cars. They are very overprotective with their products.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 3:03AM Taylor Yes Taylor said

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It's not *hard*, it's just *expensive*. Even if they get a license, they still have to do the modeling themselves, so they can just skip the license fee and model something fake.
-Taylor
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 5:17AM WiredKnight said

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@acme

No, it's not. The extent and stylization of the damage between the two games is completely different. Burnout glorifies and pretty much encourages you to crash (because it looks awesome, even if you're losing your lead), and in Forza you're very much not supposed to even bump other cars.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:21PM Haggard said

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I note that gun manufacturers don't mind seeing villainous henchmen using their assault rifles.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:13PM petepete said

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yea joystiq, may games these days have cars modeled after real-life vehicles... shouldnt a site like this have known something so simple like that?
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:15PM Hellvector said

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I have to agree. Just because the car looks like one in Burnout, which was modeled after real vehicles, doesn't mean they're modeled after each other...
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:26PM arrness PSN chsowls Steam dcdani said

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slow day for news?

wheres the cool stuff for sunday?
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:41PM MarkezJM said

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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 1:34AM (Unverified) said

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Markez, I don't know what that had to do with anything, but I voted you up for it.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:29PM CheesusCrust said

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Haha G2 looks like shit
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:39PM (Unverified) said

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Is it just me, or do these two cars not look similar at all? Obviously, outside of the car's color.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:43PM PR0F3TA said

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don't worry, i don't see much of a resemblance... well kinda
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:43PM Mymactim said

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Sigh...
They are both based on a GTO.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:44PM Dafrety said

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I would not put it past EA for them to reuse data from previous games, especially considering that they have done it multiple times in the past.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:47PM sear said

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But these are definitely not the same models. Just look at the screenshot. They're similar, not identical. It's possible data was reused, but I'm siding more with "inspired by" or perhaps "rebuilt". Even if you make a new model from scratch, you do save on design time.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:47PM (Unverified) said

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g2 is definitely a '69 Pontiac GTO.

http://www.pontiacserver.com/69judge.jpg
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:59AM Mirhderer said

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Initially I was going to say Plymouth Barracuda, but you are correct
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 1:04AM (Unverified) said

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And according to the Burnout Wiki (http://burnout.wikia.com/wiki/Hunter_Cavalry):

"[The Hunter Cavalry] essentially mixes the three best aspects of the '70 Boss Mustang, the '68-'69 Pontiac GTO and the '70 Plymouth Barracuda - the Mustang's iconic rear fascia, the GTO's interesting front fascia, and the Barracuda's streamlined side with the Barracuda line decal."
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:52PM PoisonedAl said

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Godfather, 2002 called. They want their graphics back.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 2:56AM Paulmichael said

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Could someone please forward that message to Yakuza 3 as well? Thanks.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:22AM spin cycle said

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Burnout team rocks!
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:49AM (Unverified) said

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Thanks, Joystiq. For pointing out that Burnout Paradise looks leagues better than GTA: San Andreas.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 1:03AM (Unverified) said

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The cars are both based on the 69 pontiac gto. the one in burnout has the 69 firebird dual headlights, but both have the mustang rear end. the firebird comes to more of a point at the center of the grille. and indeed the graphics for burnout are better, but it is just about wrecking cars. no auto manufacture wants to see their products destroyed. they can not say anything if a developers end results look "similar" to their actual model. they let games like nfs and grid use their cars because they are not using them to cause damage to people or personal property. in godfather and gta they use cars as weapons and that will "make kids do the same" as all the government officals would say. but i would say that it does look similar to eachother, but there is major differances.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 1:18AM NIck PSN ID Rattlehead91 said

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The first Godfather looked better than this.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 2:08AM Foetoid said

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Kinda looks like the awesome Wii port of The Godfather, but running in 720p.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 1:37AM Klitorisaurus said

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Godfather 2? The movie is set in the twenties isn't it? Are you sure it's not Scarface 2?
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 7:55AM (Unverified) said

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The godfather trilogy spans like 60 years I thought.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 10:35AM (Unverified) said

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You should watch the film.

There are two stories being told at two different times:
1) the humble beginnings and subsequent rise to power of Vito Corleone (Marlon Brando in The Godfather, Robert DeNiro in The Godfather II)
2) his son Michael (Al Pacino in both films) leading the family in the next generation after his consolidation of power following Vito's death

I don't know how closely the game will follow the film, but the cars are probably from Michael's era.
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