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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 4:52PM (Unverified) said

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watched it, sad but it was not gaming's fault
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 7:08PM MrHashbrown said

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Obviously the kid was emotional and angry and he ran away. Just because he got emotional and angry over an Xbox 360 is the only reason this piece was created. Okay, he was a gaming aficionado and was interested in the competitive gaming sport. What's wrong with that?

If anything, it's his parents' fault for getting him an Xbox 360 with Live as well as a M-rated graphically intense game. I don't mean to point the finger at anyone, and I send my wishes to the family, but this isn't a message about gaming becoming obsessive. This is a message of lazy parenting gone terribly wrong.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 4:52PM floating coffins said

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I blame trees. We must destroy them all.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:34PM (Unverified) said

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Clearly, the depiction of trees in video games is leading the youth today down a short and twiggy slope and we should remove all reference of these "trees" from the games until such time as we can implement child safety features in the offending objects. I'd like to see a large dose of "common sense" added to every bowl of Kellogg's Frosties...
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:48PM Foetoid said

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I blame dual-analog controls. He was obviously so frustrated with how barbaric and in-accurate the controls are for FPS games he just had to end it all. We've all been down that path. Someone shoulda bought him a PC or Wii.

Oh and i'm not at all having a go at the poor child, i have two kids and i hope all parents like myself with young children learn from these mistakes.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 6:02PM Rhamsey said

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trees are our friends my ass. id like to see a 60min news broadcast talking about why we should kill all trees, and uncovering their plot to take over the world.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 7:09PM (Unverified) said

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I don't know about a documentary, but I hear M. Night Shyamalan's The Happening comes real close to depicting what you want to see...
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 7:42PM mrmobius said

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http://www.dhmo.org

And let's get rid of Dihydrogen Monoxide while we're at it!!!!
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 8:07PM (Unverified) said

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I don't mean to be a total dick, but it's pretty obvious what killed this kid:

Gravity.

~HotShotX
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 9:45PM MrSpaceCowboy said

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If you ever saw the documentary 'Life After People' it shows our friends the 'trees' have the most to gain from the demise of humanity. Without us to manicure our lawns, streets and highways the trees will run rampant. I fear the death of Brandon Crisp may be the start of a tree insurrection.

I don't know about you, but I'm gonna get my chainsaw and start fighting for humanity.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 10:26PM BananaBoat said

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I saw this documentary once about these gigantic talking trees that walked and eventually destroyed this big dam and flooded this big black spire thingy. True story. Damn trees are just waiting in the wings to enslave us all.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 10:34AM DWells55 said

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Blaming the trees is a solid idea. Do you have any idea how long they've existed, the whole time just sitting there and observing us? That's a lot of time for them to develop a plan for world domination. Hopefully the brave soldiers of the logging industry and our friends ignoring global warming will continue to wage war against these silent foes.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 1:20PM megapenguinx said

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According to every video game I've ever played, trees are invincible!
They can take machine gun fire, missiles being shot at them, hell even nuclear weapons!
Also ramming you car into them only ends badly.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 4:54PM (Unverified) said

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[I've been banned for being awful.]
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 4:57PM Arsenic13 said

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Wow your a cold hearted fuck. The kid may of been spoiled and over reacted, but he was a kid. He died. Learn some compassion sicko.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 4:58PM Yggdrasiel said

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if you turn 360 degrees you will just be facing your mom again...
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:08PM Arsenic13 said

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EDIT: Useless vitriol.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:10PM (Unverified) said

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As callous as it may be, all the 15 year olds that are alive today prove Crisp was not all that bright in the head.

Tho personally I blame the parents. That's pretty much where the blame always is with children that behave in a manner which leads them to their untimely death.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:41PM (Unverified) said

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Funniest sequence or replies ever!!!!

John @ Mar 8th 2009 4:54PM: Mom takes it away, you turn 360 degrees and die two blocks from your house. Brandon Crisp was a moron.

Cj @ Mar 8th 2009 4:57PM: Learn some compassion sicko.

Yggy @ Mar 8th 2009 4:58PM: if you turn 360 degrees you will just be facing your mom again... (SIMPLE TRUTH!)

Cj @ Mar 8th 2009 5:08PM: Another idiot. Go f... your PS3. (NO MORE COMPASSION?, NOW IT'S PS3'S FAULT!!!)

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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:44PM MarkHawk said

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@BlackDove
How can you blame anyone? You didn't know these people. Have you spoken to any of them and asked how could this of been prevented? The parents took the steps to make sure the kid started to focus on school. Sure they may have let the kid play games growing up but 10 million people on XBL are doing the same and they seem fine. How could someone see this coming?

15 year old kids. I should of died so many times as a Kid.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 6:07PM (Unverified) said

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His parents allowed him to leave because they expected he'd be back with his tail between his legs the very same day. Not the smartest thing to do, but still, it is the kind of attitude you adopt to when dealing with teens.

Still, has anybody actually though about blaming little Brandon for ,well,being a moron? While his death is indeed tragic, I find it much harder to sympathise with a fiteen-year-old who ran away to "show" his mummy, who took away his beloved video game, compared to how sorrry I'd feel for a six-teen year old girl who had little choice but to run from her abusive father who used to beat her.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 4:57PM (Unverified) said

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I just want to know if the kid is under 17 did the parents buy him the game, if so then its there fault not the games fault
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 4:56PM Shmil said

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A fifteen year old plays an M rated game with his parents knowing. He plays it so much that he's in MLG. Sounds like the parents weren't even concerned about him playing the video games until they fucked up by taking his xbox away and he ran off. Moral of the story, the kid had some problems before games and the parents were morons.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:03PM MarkezJM said

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I still can't believe his dad helped him pack his bags to run away. Wonder what kind of play that got in their piece.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:08PM Shmil said

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wow, I didn't even watch the 40 minute thing. His dad helped him pack to run away? that there is grade A parenting.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:15PM Istari Spartan said

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I agree with the comment in which i'm replying to.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:15PM LocalToast said

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@Markez

They didn't even mention that... wtf?
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:24PM Haggard said

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His dad thought they were playing inventory bag-tetris on RE4.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:32PM anoffday said

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Agreed. The parents were idiots, and they are the only ones to blame here.

Seriously though, I didn't know he died from falling out of a tree. How exactly do you manage to blame that on video games? The anti-video game idiots never cease to amaze me.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:48PM MarkHawk said

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You guys are feeding into this crap.

These parents let there kid do something he loved. Play games competitively. How is that any different then when parents buy them 500.00$ in gear for football. When they injure themself's on the field for a chance at some scholarship money. These parents don't suck from your argument. They just didnt push him outside. they let him play games with other people.

My Mom helped me pack when I ran away. I got bored and realized I'd over reacted came back in 2 hours.

How are you guys feeding into this shit that their is someone to blame?!?
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:59PM Shmil said

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Because there is someone to blame. When the interviewer asked the mother what she thought of the game he played, CoD4, she didn't even know what to say. She said it was interesting. It was pretty obvious she didn't care about the games he played before this happened. They allowed him to play that often they put the xbox and tv in his room. Moderate your children people. Put the xbox in the living room on a tv that is shared with everyone.

The parents tried to call his bluff when he wanted run away, that is often a common reaction when a child threatens to run away but you can't say they did nothing wrong. His dad pulled him out of hockey because he was spending too much time on the bench. And then bought him an xbox. His parents bought him the M rated games he played. It seems that his parents never sat down with him and talked to him about how often he plays and about the virtual violence in the games. Instead they unplugged his xbox in the middle of the night when he was playing and being too loud. If you have a child who disobeys his parents so often then there's got to be something else going on in that relationship.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 6:14PM MarkezJM said

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I'm with Shmil. MarkHawk the aspect of this you're not appreciating is the extremes to which his 360 devotion was. So for your football comparison, what if the kid were suiting up around midnight to do drills in his room or outside?

To your point, there's absolutely nothing wrong with parents letting their kids doing something they love. However, that's different than parents letting their kids do something that they're showing a severe and unhealthy obsession with.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 11:00PM (Unverified) said

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My condolences for their loss, but his parents seem like grade A idiots. Does anyone remember when he was first reported missing and the parents hysterically blamed a stalker on Xbox Llive for kidnapping him? I bet they didn't mention that in the documentary.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 6:24AM BananaBoat said

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You guys really need to take a step back. This kid was 15 freaking years old. One more year and he'd have been licensed to drive what is essentially a moving weapon. Shame on the documentary makers for taking this approach, but good lord, the kid was in high school. The idea of personal responsibility is dead when you don't place any blame on a 15 year old that ran away from home over a video game, climbed up a tree, and then subsequently fell out of it. The parents are at fault for buying him the game, but come on.

As for helping him pack, I don't know what else the parents were supposed to do. Physically restrain him and call for backup? I know if I had said I was running away from home, my father would probably have helped me pack as well, and then done a little victory dance (the man was the middle of 7 children. He left home at 16, and it wasn't because his dad took his Xbox)

(The following isn't presented in paragraph format. I was writing as I was watching)
I got physically ill at the mention of "ask any parent that has been to the basement lately". They start the damn documentary with the blanket statement that video games are for children, that the ratings are a sham, and that they are screwing with innocent minds. Then the whole "First Person Shooters" or "Roleplaying games" fiasco. Then the bombshell that the poor kid just wanted to play hockey but they wouldn't let him, so he had to turn to the evil of video games. She picks up call of duty 4, and right underneath is a hockey game, with posters of hockey figures on the wall. Wonder if the poor kid just wanted to be part of a team, and they molly coddled him into becoming a part of the only type of team you don't need parental permission to join. Now the cow doing the interviews is calling one of the single player missions "training" from your "kindly mentor" in the art of "killing". Specifically the one where you snipe the Russian guy. That "training" is only useful for that one damn shot, and is never used again during the game. Here's a gem for you The Mom: I used to lie on his bed at night Insensitive C**t Reporter: "....Why?". I hate reporters. So very, very much. Now there is a former gaming addict, describing carrot and stick as it applies to video games (read: In the same damn way it applies to EVERYTHING). Reporter lady is visibly shocked that carrot and stick exists. Now they're hitting the "everyone with a mic on Xbox Live is a douche" angle. Classy, I see exactly how this links into the kids death. Oh! Oh! What's this?! Expert saying that the ratings system actually works and that parents should abide by the ratings? Ok, how long until they call him a quack... phew! He got away unscathed. Her tone clearly said "damn those games", but at least he did say that parents need to take responsibility. Oh dear god, now the reporter lady is arguing with an industry representative that the M on the box isn't nearly big enough, and that parents couldn't possibly be held accountable for not actually reading the box. Now she's arguing that nowhere on the box does it say WHY the game is rated M. They clearly edited out the industry reps answer of "it does...on the back". Now she thinks Master Chief is a robot, and noone is correcting her.

Alright, I can't watch anymore. Now they are confusing me, and making it sound like it was his decision to quit hockey. I don't know which way is up anymore. My brain is like a gelatinous blob at this point. I don't know what else to say. I've been addicted to an MMO before. I gave it up, and I didn't throw a fit. I was younger than this kid was. Being responsible for ones self is an important thing in my opinion, and that just didn't happen here. Should MLG allow underage competitors for an M rated game? Maybe not. This fits into the same vein as "should parents be allowed to take their kids into R rated movies", and I don't think there is any clear answer (the amount of kids in Watchmen yesterday...unreal).

Way to take a bad situation and make it worse by exploiting it for all it is worth. Good show, morally bankrupt news channel.
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 1:52PM arrrgh said

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As much fault as the parent are at,

how is this different from the kid getting pissed because he got his [phone, basketball, lucky red hat or any other STUPID TRIVIAL thing] taken away, and running off to do the same thing?


The kid thought he would prove something by running away from his parents. That is a risk. There are kids MUCH YOUNGER than him out there being forced to war with REAL weapons. This kid throws his life away over a fucking xbox?

Tragic yes. Absolutely retarded? Absolutely.

kid was 16. By then you should really know the difference between fact and fiction and the potential consequences of your actions. Brought it upon himself.

Could the parent have done more to prevent this? Perhaps...but most of us here were playing ridiculously violent games and watching ridiculously violent movies at his age, yet here we are, alive and well. I thought about running away many times at his age....was never assfuck stupid enough to go through with it.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 4:57PM WiredKnight said

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Clearly the trees are to blame.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:00PM MarkezJM said

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There's one outside my window right now, oh god, no.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:11PM MarkezJM said

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Man, I just realized Wahlberg was recently in two of the worst movies I've seen in years; the Happening & Max Payne. *shudders*
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:42PM Foetoid said

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Are you serious. Max Payne was worth seeing, once, and i won't ever watch it again, but it wasn't total bollocks, but i really enjoyed The Happening. The story was a shallow and it explained pretty much nothing, but the premise was unique and it was fun to watch. Compared to some movies i've seen, these 2 need Academy Awards, and lots of them.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 6:59PM Shmil said

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Vidja games have sapped my ability to climb trees. If i didn't play games I could climb trees better.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 9:58PM Cal said

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I saw Max Payne the other day, and it was terrible. Luckily for it though I watched it during a ferry crossing, else I'd want my two hours back...
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 12:23PM Haggard said

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It's a shame, because now when someone proposes to make Max Payne 3 (PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN), the board execs will just go "wait, Max Payne? Wasn't that a shit movie?"
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 4:58PM MarkezJM said

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Moderation, folks. I hate to just simplify things but teaching, and imposing, moderation to/on your kids is pretty important and it applies to everything, not just gaming. The most disappointing thing about this write-up (nice job, Griff) to me is the way they paint youth as powerless, unable to resist the lure of the gaming. Nothing pisses me off more than people, whether it be kids, parents, media, whoever, is when they refuse to accept accountability and just throw blame on external forces.

By the way, Canada? I thought John Candy led the US in a victorious war against Canada? WTF
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:04PM Gombard said

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You wanna read a some sensationalistic journalism or blogism if you prefer, re-read Joystiq's take on it. Wow, way to lay it a little thick there. I watched it, and it's not like they're totally bashing it, but maybe instead of trashing a piece, how about opening up your eyes and maybe seeing it in a different perspective. Was it heavy handed? Possibly. But to trash it like that, is just as bad or worse than the message that was sent. I normally dont leave messages on here, but this pissed me off. Oh and that complete and utter dolt who said the kid was a moron, wow, way to be a complete douche about some poor childs death. I hope you dont have to go through an ordeal with a death of a child.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 6:12PM Snowblind said

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Obviously Joystiqs take on it was somewhat satirical, and the guy who was calling the kid a moron was completely out of line, you can't blame a young child for over reacting like that, but his parents shouldn't have allowed a problem like that to get out of hand in the first place. Resting sole blame the games, or anything else he may have been addicted to for that matter is completely unreasonable.

The way they attempted to portray the games industry, especially the competitive scene was very innacurrate to the point most of what they said must have been made up on the spot.

I've personally played games since I can remember, and they're obviously a very big part of my life, I even remember playing games like Mortal Kombat when I was very young, yet I'd consider myself very tolerent and non-violent, perhaps simply because I had a decent enough upbringing, I was sensible enough to know that my entire life couldn't revolve around playing them.

I'd actually go as far to say videogames have had a *very* positive impact on my life.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 8:20PM (Unverified) said

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way to downvote one of the only posters here with a heart, freakin douches


i completely agree with you, btw Gombard
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 10:49PM Courtney said

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Well, now the biomass has voted down two of you supposedly heart having people, happy?
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Posted: Mar 9th 2009 7:18AM (Unverified) said

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seriously courtney? wtf is there to be happy about? all that proves is that the majority of posters here on joystiq are indeed heartless, and feel that their precious video games are more important than the death of this young boy.
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Posted: Mar 8th 2009 5:06PM (Unverified) said

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Yellow journalism at its finest.
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