We'll just give you a second to soak up that headline. And ... good. It was recently reported by Silicon Alley Insider that Worlds.com CEO Thom Kidrin "absolutely" plans to sue MMO giant Blizzard should his company win its lawsuit against NCsoft, publisher of City of Heroes and Guild Wars. The subject of the suit is the very concept of virtual worlds which, Kidrin claims, is patented by Worlds.com, thanks to a children's product that was created in 1997. According to SAI, the patents cover "an architecture for enabling thousands of simultaneous users in a 3D virtual space." Worlds.com is seeking licensing fees from any company that would employ such a technology.
Call us crazy, but the concept of virtual worlds has been around for decades. Our kindred at WoW Insider point out, and we're inclined to agree, that there are many examples of prior art that essentially invalidate the patent anyway. WoW Insider cites the term 'cyberspace' as coined by William Gibson and used in his 1984 novel Neuromancer. One might even argue that the internet itself qualifies.
On top of that, NCsoft itself has yet to be served with notice of the suit. We're not legal experts, but we'd say Blizzard and the creators of, oh, every other MMO are safe. If Worlds.com is eager to find another genre to sue, allow us to suggest first-person shooters. There are lots of people playing those online too.
[Via WoW Insider]
Reader Comments (54)
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:01PM Bacon Deity said
Rofl, I wrote a 30 page paper on greed and morality. lololol.
But what they don't understand is that Blizzard can hire Johnnie Cochran, make 50 clones of him and hire the clones, and to top it all off, they can provide the whole court house with lollipops. Blizzard's total cost? 1% of their monthly earnings.
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But what they don't understand is that Blizzard can hire Johnnie Cochran, make 50 clones of him and hire the clones, and to top it all off, they can provide the whole court house with lollipops. Blizzard's total cost? 1% of their monthly earnings.
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 7:13PM (Unverified) said
Not if I sue you first for infringing on my patent called "respiration".
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:50PM In A World said
*patents the space between spaces, the multiverse, anti-multiverse, the space-time contiuum, the very fabric of reality, and last but not least, Sonic the Hedgehog so I finally can take development rights away from SEGA and make a good Sonic game for once*
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 7:08PM LaughingTarget said
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Realm_Online
BETA released March 1995.
Unless they have a very specific coding application that was stolen and it isn't a broad "we invented the virtual world idea" claim, game, set match. I win.
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BETA released March 1995.
Unless they have a very specific coding application that was stolen and it isn't a broad "we invented the virtual world idea" claim, game, set match. I win.
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 7:54PM Rabidkeebler said
I was thinking the exact same thing but with Ultima Online, which came out in 97 as well.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 8:20PM Telprydain said
Not saying that there is any merit to the claim, but Ultima On-line wasn't 3d.
And FPS games are not thousands of users big.
"an architecture for enabling thousands of simultaneous users in a 3D virtual space."
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And FPS games are not thousands of users big.
"an architecture for enabling thousands of simultaneous users in a 3D virtual space."
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 7:08PM Haggard said
Pure greed.
You don't see id suing every FPS developer, or the Moody Blues suing every prog-rock band. Genres of media may well be pioneered by some, but unless they are directly stolen by someone else, everything that comes after that varies, improves and evolves the original concept.
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You don't see id suing every FPS developer, or the Moody Blues suing every prog-rock band. Genres of media may well be pioneered by some, but unless they are directly stolen by someone else, everything that comes after that varies, improves and evolves the original concept.
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 8:12PM WiredKnight said
The difference is that id invented the FPS. The retards are trying to say that they came up with the idea of cyberspace, and they're two decades late.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 7:11PM Mal F4cti0n said
I am going to throw some words on paper.....something like "the ability to remotely control openings in my house to better control internal house temperature based on weather conditions." Have absolutely no technology on "how" this will be done and then when someone motorizes house windows and allows them to be opened and closed, maybe based on user set weather conditions, I am going to sue that company.
I mean, shit, if Blizzard didn't use World.com's method for having people interact in a 3D space, there is nothing to sue over. This would be like I am patenting "flying machines" and when someone invented the something that flew, suing them for patent infringement. What, exactly, is your fucking patent? Nothing, you cannot patent an idea without the technology behind it. Well, actually now you can because the patent office is flooded with bullshit patents from lazy, greedy, dumb assholes.
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I mean, shit, if Blizzard didn't use World.com's method for having people interact in a 3D space, there is nothing to sue over. This would be like I am patenting "flying machines" and when someone invented the something that flew, suing them for patent infringement. What, exactly, is your fucking patent? Nothing, you cannot patent an idea without the technology behind it. Well, actually now you can because the patent office is flooded with bullshit patents from lazy, greedy, dumb assholes.
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 8:15PM WiredKnight said
And it's so obvious that they're just in it for the money.
First they try their chances with the smaller companies, then if that works they figure they'll have a chance at Blizzard. If they lose this initial lawsuit, they're not going to bother going after Blizzard.
Spineless.
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First they try their chances with the smaller companies, then if that works they figure they'll have a chance at Blizzard. If they lose this initial lawsuit, they're not going to bother going after Blizzard.
Spineless.
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 7:41PM Look At This Suit said
Tonight at 11:
Yahweh sues Universe, claims planets were his idea.
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Yahweh sues Universe, claims planets were his idea.
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 7:43PM Otimus said
Damn! Greedy poorer people want to sue greedy richer people! THOSE POOR GREEDY PEOPLE! ALWAYS MESSING WITH THESE GREEDY PEOPLE!
Good god, the way some of you people act.
Why would anyone be all "Poor rich Blizzard :'("
It should be "This is stupid" and *move on*
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Good god, the way some of you people act.
Why would anyone be all "Poor rich Blizzard :'("
It should be "This is stupid" and *move on*
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 8:02PM (Unverified) said
You can tell they're arrogant bastards because their web domain is "Worlds.com".
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 8:06PM (Unverified) said
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 8:13PM (Unverified) said
Haven't these guys read Neuromancer? I seem to recall that idea being put forward in 1984 for feck's sake!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 8:13PM WiredKnight said
Remind me to never buy anything from Worlds.com ever.
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Posted: Mar 11th 2009 8:23PM Telprydain said
"an architecture for enabling thousands of simultaneous users in a 3D virtual space."
Most of the games you guys are putting out there are not 3D.
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Most of the games you guys are putting out there are not 3D.
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 9:07PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
According to SEI, the patents cover "an architecture for enabling thousands of simultaneous users in a 3D virtual space."
bah guess teir patent was for a sucky ass MMO clearly WoW doesnt violate the patent as it enables MILLIONS to connect at the same time
Idiots....
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bah guess teir patent was for a sucky ass MMO clearly WoW doesnt violate the patent as it enables MILLIONS to connect at the same time
Idiots....
Posted: Mar 11th 2009 10:20PM moominsean said
anybody that tries to pull this kind of tomfoolery should get a swift kick in the nuts. i mean, seriously, learn how to succeed on your own merit, not by leeching off of the success of others.
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Posted: Mar 12th 2009 12:11AM (Unverified) said
I remember being on Alphaworld and Worlds Chat. They were definite products that were pre MMO. I think that worlds inc might have SOME claim to SOMETHING related to virtual worlds, but the blanket wording per OP seems extremely broad.
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